Was all that necessary? I ve watched this 3 times.There is no reason for a punch with a closed fist

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    Jun 17, 2010 3:17 AM GMT
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    Jun 17, 2010 3:21 AM GMT
    resisting. surpriseicon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jun 17, 2010 3:22 AM GMT
    for Jaywalking? What happened to back up?
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    Jun 17, 2010 4:40 AM GMT

    Are we watching the same thing? He was trying to arrest the grl in the blk cardigan when the grl in the pink decided to do what? OVERSTEP HER BOUNDS. It makes no difference what she was being arrested for the grl in the pink had no business getting involved. She put her hands on the cop 1st. If you ask me shes lucky it was a blow to the face and he didn't feel threatened where he had to pull his gun.
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    Jun 17, 2010 6:17 AM GMT
    I would have done the same thing, then I would tased the hell out of both the girl and her friend. That cop was all alone in a situation where two women were physically attacking him and a hostile crowd is gathering around him.

    Dumb girl should have just stopped fighting.

    To answer the OP's question: yea that was necessary, but not enough in my opinion. Hope the justice system kicked in and taught that lady a lesson later.
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    Jun 17, 2010 6:24 AM GMT
    Hillie said
    Are we watching the same thing? He was trying to arrest the grl in the blk cardigan when the grl in the pink decided to do what? OVERSTEP HER BOUNDS. It makes no difference what she was being arrested for the grl in the pink had no business getting involved. She put her hands on the cop 1st. If you ask me shes lucky it was a blow to the face and he didn't feel threatened where he had to pull his gun.


    Absolutely agree. And the fools standing around worrying about her clothes.....I would ask them..."Are YOU f*cking kidding ME?"
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    Jun 17, 2010 12:14 PM GMT
    Both women were resisting arrest. His actions were appropriate and reasonable.
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    Jun 17, 2010 12:24 PM GMT
    fastfreddie saidBoth women were resisting arrest. His actions were appropriate and reasonable.


    yeah. That bitch got what she deserved
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    Jun 17, 2010 12:30 PM GMT
    looks justified to me.
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    Jun 17, 2010 12:34 PM GMT
    Totally justified. Had she not touched him, and he punched her, then I'd have a problem with it. But you do not put your hands on a police officer. End of story.
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    Jun 17, 2010 12:38 PM GMT
    MrNomore said


    How would you have handled it, then? Please keep in mind the following: You're alone, you're surrounded, and you're being physically assaulted while trying to restrain someone who is resisting arrest. You not only have to protect yourself, but also there is the fact that you have a loaded weapon that could wind up in the hands of someone other than yourself. A police officer must always be the one in control of the situation. Not the other way around.

    Go.
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    Jun 17, 2010 12:40 PM GMT
    I'm sorry to say it, but on this issue you stand alone.
    She had it coming.
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    Jun 17, 2010 12:55 PM GMT
    I feel for that cop. I can't imagine being alone in a situation like that. I always thought they had backup.
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    Jun 17, 2010 1:01 PM GMT
    The cop didn't continue pummeling like you see some when they OD on adrenaline and continue hitting. He had two people fighting him.

    I just watched Al Sharpton on the Today show, and even he couldn't say it went overboard.

    For those not familiar with Seattle, you don't Jaywalk.
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    Jun 17, 2010 1:02 PM GMT
    yeah, i'm not big on police force either...but in this case once he committed to the struggle he had to finish it.

    i've watched "cops" a few times and i've never understood people fighting back with police officers.

    i hope he arrested the woman in the pink too. seriously? you think he's going to stop arresting your GF because you over powered him?
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    Jun 17, 2010 1:03 PM GMT
    I saw this yesterday and watched the video in its entirety before coming to a conclusion. In this case, those women are at fault. They jaywalked, ignored cop's orders, assaulted the cop, resisted arrest, etc. So many infractions racked up. Also seen in a related article, those women had prior arrests as well.
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    Jun 17, 2010 1:18 PM GMT
    I feel like its just REALLY easy to join the "cops are ALL ass holes" band waggan. and i feel like anyone saying he was in the wrong is trying to hold onto WHATEVER they can to make him sound as bad as possible

    "oh no why'd he hit her with a closed fist?!?! oh no u dont do that?!?! he should have hit her with an open palm, at least."

    ... what? seriously?

    and someone has to say this ...

    i also feel like people are DIEING for a white cop to wrongfully attack a black person. i also feel that if this was a black cop hitting a white man... NO ONE would have the balls to say soemthing like "why'd he hit him with a closed fist?"
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    Jun 17, 2010 1:24 PM GMT
    Voice22 said
    i also feel that if this was a black cop hitting a white man... NO ONE would have the balls to say soemthing like "why'd he hit him with a closed fist?"


    in fairness, a male of any race hitting a woman of any race with a closed fist is generally unacceptable. in this case (and it is a special case), it involves a police officer.

    had the roles been reversed, a black officer in a white neighborhood with two white women resisting arrest along with a crowd of white people taking video of it on their cellphones and talking to the cop from less than 5 feet away, i think we'd all agree that a closed fist is the least of his worries and he has to control the situation.

    a black cop striking a white male is not apples to apples, IMHO.
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    Jun 17, 2010 1:25 PM GMT
    Why is it ok for someone to assault an office and when the officer defends himself its called "excessive force"??? How else are you gonna punch?? Slap her like a girl. . .he shoulda knocked the bitch out. . . she was interfering with an arrest.
    TOTALLY JUSTIFIED. . .
    SINCE WHEN DO CRIMINALS BECOME THE VICTIMS. . . ????
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    Jun 17, 2010 1:26 PM GMT
    A1EX said
    She had it coming.
    this!
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    Jun 17, 2010 1:34 PM GMT
    rangard said
    Voice22 said
    i also feel that if this was a black cop hitting a white man... NO ONE would have the balls to say soemthing like "why'd he hit him with a closed fist?"


    in fairness, a male of any race hitting a woman of any race with a closed fist is generally unacceptable. in this case (and it is a special case), it involves a police officer.

    had the roles been reversed, a black officer in a white neighborhood with two white women resisting arrest along with a crowd of white people taking video of it on their cellphones and talking to the cop from less than 5 feet away, i think we'd all agree that a closed fist is the least of his worries and he has to control the situation.

    a black cop striking a white male is not apples to apples, IMHO.


    with modern society trying to preach "equality" i think we have to move away from mentalities like "its less bad for a man to do this to a woman than it is for a man to do this to a women."

    we cant pick and chose which issues we'd like to be non-discriminatory. we're either racist, or not. we're either sexist, or not.
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    Jun 17, 2010 1:46 PM GMT
    i like how that idiot kept saying "are you serious are you serious"

    uhm yehh and its mid day dont these people have jobs
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    Jun 17, 2010 1:48 PM GMT
    I'm usually in the "cops are assholes" bandwagon, and I think punching her in the face is a little excessive, but if it's lawful for officers there to punch people as a form of defense, then he obviously had every right to hit her. What was she thinking trying to break up the officer and her friend?.... What an idiot. It definitely looks bad, but think about the situation the officer was in... it could have quickly turned bad for him had more onlookers gotten involved.
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    Jun 17, 2010 1:50 PM GMT
    Voice22 said
    rangard said
    Voice22 said
    i also feel that if this was a black cop hitting a white man... NO ONE would have the balls to say soemthing like "why'd he hit him with a closed fist?"


    in fairness, a male of any race hitting a woman of any race with a closed fist is generally unacceptable. in this case (and it is a special case), it involves a police officer.

    had the roles been reversed, a black officer in a white neighborhood with two white women resisting arrest along with a crowd of white people taking video of it on their cellphones and talking to the cop from less than 5 feet away, i think we'd all agree that a closed fist is the least of his worries and he has to control the situation.

    a black cop striking a white male is not apples to apples, IMHO.


    with modern society trying to preach "equality" i think we have to move away from mentalities like "its less bad for a man to do this to a woman than it is for a man to do this to a women."

    we cant pick and chose which issues we'd like to be non-discriminatory. we're either racist, or not. we're either sexist, or not.


    what i said above was that it was "generally unacceptable." this isn't just an isolated belief, it's everywhere in our culture. and it is probably held because men are, as a rule, bigger and stronger. this isn't always true (that cop in the video had his hands full) but it is a pretty common perception that men should not strike women.

    that said, i don't think a move toward equality would mean that it's okay for men to punch out women. i'm just saying that your scenario (a black police officer striking a white male) is not comparable to this scenario. a comparable scenario would be a black officer striking a white female in the same kind of context as the video.
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    Jun 17, 2010 1:57 PM GMT
    back2nyc saidJust googled "Jaywalking" didn't really know what it means.


    Of course not... being from New York myself, I think jaywalking is how it's supposed to be done! icon_smile.gif You cross the minute the streetlight turns red, not when the crosswalk sign says "walk".

    Now was this punchworthy? I don't know... but I did see that the other woman was trying to obstruct him while he was trying to restrain the other one. They were teaming him. And to be truthful, I'd rather he use his hands than a weapon. tHere would be an uproar for sure if that had happened, I think.