jprichva said......."This discredited crap has been around for years". Sounds like you are painting with a rather broad brush. Of what "crap" are you speaking? You are being very general......................"anyone who has seen this sort of crap for 25 years".. We are the same age, and I ,also, have been cognizant of the goings on in the last 25 years.............In a posting further up, you used the term "incredible hogwash".To what specifically does that comment refer?........ In my posting above, I have reccommended an online radio network, and two books. It's up to each individual to ascertain whether these are of any value to them. The first book I reccommend is by ex-senator John DeCamp of Nebraska...The Franklin Coverup, written in 1992...A detailed review can be found at amazon.com....... Now lets go back up to the original post by WELLWELL. His concerns are legitimate: A deliberate plan to get rid of the US Constitution, and the formation of a North American Union. Some rights that we currently have as Americans will vanish forever............Now in the past you have provided great comic relief on many threads, but in this case the various related topics are gravely serious. I truly wish that I could dismiss it all as "hogwash".