In South Florida This Week - Until 6/25

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    Jun 18, 2010 2:44 PM GMT
    Hope to get to meet more RJ'rs while in town.

    Aloha and Be Well!
    Alan
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    Jun 18, 2010 2:58 PM GMT
    Welcome. Let me know if you need anything while here.
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    Jun 18, 2010 4:42 PM GMT
    GAMRican saidHope to get to meet more RJ'rs while in town.

    Aloha and Be Well!
    Alan

    Remember, Sunday, June 20 is the Stonewall Street Festival and Parade on Wilton Drive. C & I will be staffing the SMART Ride table right in front of Chic Optique in the Shoppes of Wilton Manors. I'm also in the parade with my bike, which I think begins at 11 am. All I know is I'm supposed to be in the form-up area around 10 at the new Pride Center on Dixie Hwy.

    You still have my number? Phone to coordinate us getting together. The evenings of the 22nd and 24th are busy, for an AIDS fundraiser reception and an airport pick-up, respectively. B.
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    Jun 18, 2010 5:32 PM GMT
    I hope to be traveling down, but I'm on a shoestring budget. Hostels it is then! icon_razz.gif
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    Jun 18, 2010 6:47 PM GMT
    Ricovelas saidI hope to be traveling down, but I'm on a shoestring budget. Hostels it is then! icon_razz.gif



    If you're coming to South Beach, check out the Clay Hotel. It's a cheap, decent alternative that's in a great location. They used to have dormitory-style rooms if you want to go that route.
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    Jun 18, 2010 8:40 PM GMT
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    GAMRican saidHope to get to meet more RJ'rs while in town.
    I'll be sure to avoid you if I happen to see you at the beach... wouldn't want to ruin your vacation. icon_wink.gif


    Extend me the same courtesy two weeks later, puerco.

    Now then... I'm actually psyched to be in FLL area for 4th of July weekend!
    What do you locals recommend doing that day? There will be a couple of RJs that I am looking forward to meeting too! Some I already know, but a couple I have not yet met yet.
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    Jun 18, 2010 11:43 PM GMT
    SAHEM62896 saidNow then... I'm actually psyched to be in FLL area for 4th of July weekend!
    What do you locals recommend doing that day? There will be a couple of RJs that I am looking forward to meeting too! Some I already know, but a couple I have not yet met yet.

    I never know what's happening on the 4th, I know I see fireworks all around here, I suppose the papers announce the details, prolly something along the beach, which will be packed. As for the gay clubs, about all that most of them do is put up decorations, and have a drink special or 2, maybe a special DJ or a drag show.

    We usually end up at some friend's BBQ-pool party and skip it all. Not a big event for us, sorry, this is one where I can't help.
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    Jun 18, 2010 11:44 PM GMT
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    Ricovelas saidI hope to be traveling down, but I'm on a shoestring budget. Hostels it is then! icon_razz.gif



    If you're coming to South Beach, check out the Clay Hotel. It's a cheap, decent alternative that's in a great location. They used to have dormitory-style rooms if you want to go that route.
    A buddy of mine from London stayed there. He says he liked it.
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    Jun 18, 2010 11:54 PM GMT
    back2nyc saidFort Lauderdale is the most pathetic place on earth... avoid it if you don't want to be seriously depressed. Miami on the other hand is a fun exciting city... go to the Setai its my favourite hotel.. and I like the Delano a lot too... now I miss Miami.. maybe I should head over there too.
    I moved to Hollywood just to get a break from the 24/7 party life on Sobe...but still prefer partying on Sobe because it just fucking rocks. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Jun 19, 2010 12:12 AM GMT
    back2nyc saidFort Lauderdale is the most pathetic place on earth... avoid it if you don't want to be seriously depressed. Miami on the other hand is a fun exciting city... go to the Setai its my favourite hotel.. and I like the Delano a lot too... now I miss Miami.. maybe I should head over there too.

    To clarify, the Setai and Delano hotels are in the South Beach section of the City of Miami Beach, not in Miami, a separate city altogether, which is several drive miles away. Miami BEACH does have many tourist attractions, the ocean beach, and the Art Deco District, but nothing very gay any more.

    Downtown Fort Lauderdale is mostly a commercial district, so unless you like banks, law firms, and governmental buildings it wouldn't interest anybody. There is a trendy shopping & eating stretch on Las Olas Blvd, and a gay club called The Living Room, but that's about it. You really need a local to help you find the good stuff, much of which is in nearby Wilton Manors.

    The beach stretch is nice, especially around Sebastian Street, which is the de facto gay beach, because of the nearby gay guest houses & resorts. That's something Miami Beach definitely does not have.

    For an even better on-the-beach experience I've had a fondness for Hollywood for nearly 40 years. It still has a little of the flavor of the old Florida. Whereas for the nude beach experience, with a gay section, try Haulover just north of Miami Beach.
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    Jun 19, 2010 12:15 AM GMT
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    GAMRican saidHope to get to meet more RJ'rs while in town.

    Aloha and Be Well!
    Alan

    I'll be sure to avoid you if I happen to see you at the beach... wouldn't want to ruin your vacation. icon_wink.gif


    I actually kind of like your presence here on RJ, SB. You're a man who (in my view) over time has proven to be a contributing member of this virtual online community. You bring a conservative insight to issues, and generally spur a fairly intellectual discourse. I may not agree with all of your viewpoints, but that's ok. A free, open, and civil discourse is healthy for our society. It is what makes Freedom of Speech so valuable. Like all of us who are human, the way any of us state our disagreement can sometimes seem like an "ad-hominem" attack, and that undercuts the value of the points we bring to the table. That's sad and disappointing no matter which side is digressing to this sort of incivility.

    If I saw you out and about, I'd come up and say hello. I might even invite you to sit and have coffee just to learn more about your point of view.

    You're an ok guy in my book.

    Aloha and Be Well!

    Alan
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    Jun 19, 2010 12:21 AM GMT
    back2nyc saidFort Lauderdale is the most pathetic place on earth... avoid it if you don't want to be seriously depressed. Miami on the other hand is a fun exciting city... ...


    How interesting. I was born and raised in the Miami-Dade/Broward areas, and the cesspool that Miami Beach had become was one of the main reason why I left South Florida back in 2005. I was also sick of Fort Lauderdale, but both cities as decrepit as I had felt that they had become (over the 37 years that I had lived there) had certain enduring charms.

    I could live "here" again, just not in the obvious places that some would think.

    (set humor = on)
    Besides, Baltimore has got to be the most pathetic place on Earth. Why else would John Waters have chosen to make all of his tacky movies there?

    P.S. Tacky is not necessarily a bad thing.

    P.S.S. Anybody remember "Tacky's" on Broward Boulevard?
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    Jun 19, 2010 12:26 AM GMT
    All: As an FYI, I will be available in the evenings after Monday, and am here until 6/25.

    Wilton - I do have your number.

    Paulflexes; Muscles4Muscles - It would be great to meet you. Maybe we can gather some of the guys and meet at a watering hole, Java Boys, Humpy's or something.
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    Jun 19, 2010 12:28 AM GMT
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    back2nyc saidFort Lauderdale is the most pathetic place on earth... avoid it if you don't want to be seriously depressed. Miami on the other hand is a fun exciting city... go to the Setai its my favourite hotel.. and I like the Delano a lot too... now I miss Miami.. maybe I should head over there too.
    I moved to Hollywood just to get a break from the 24/7 party life on Sobe...but still prefer partying on Sobe because it just fucking rocks. icon_biggrin.gif



    Yes partying in miami does rock.. and for once the people in Miami are a lot of fun... they suck everywhere else in America though.. sorry... miami is the only truly international city in USA with a very sexy vibe.... and parts of Miami are very classy too... I miss Bal Harbour...
    I gotta admit, I always miss it when working out of town. Everyone here is saying how much Savannah rocks. I'm like "uh, I've seen it from the air...I ain't driving 1.5 hrs to go party there unless someone's buying my drinks." icon_lol.gif

    ...might go shark fishing, though. They say there's lots of sharks here. icon_wink.gif
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    Jun 19, 2010 12:41 AM GMT
    GAMRican saidAll: As an FYI, I will be available in the evenings after Monday, and am here until 6/25.

    Wilton - I do have your number.

    Paulflexes; Muscles4Muscles - It would be great to meet you. Maybe we can gather some of the guys and meet at a watering hole, Java Boys, Humpy's or something.

    OK, too bad you'll miss Pride on Sunday. Our open nights are Mon & Wed. And even our Tue & Thu commitments could be over early for us, still possible to link up somewhere. B.
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    Jun 19, 2010 1:26 AM GMT
    GAMRican saidAll: As an FYI, I will be available in the evenings after Monday, and am here until 6/25.

    Wilton - I do have your number.

    Paulflexes; Muscles4Muscles - It would be great to meet you. Maybe we can gather some of the guys and meet at a watering hole, Java Boys, Humpy's or something.
    I can't guarantee that I'll be there (still in GA), but I've got my fingers crossed that the boss will let me fly back Monday and stay 'till Thursday (only working Fri, Sat, and Sun here). I'll definitely keep ya posted.
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    Jun 19, 2010 2:46 PM GMT
    Look, folks... I'mjust going to rest and see family and see a few friends in FLL. I'm not looking to party. But if there are some cool things to do on the 4th of July there, that'd be great. That's all I wanted to know.
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    Jun 19, 2010 7:46 PM GMT
    back2nyc saidYa that's what I meant... SOBE is fun... the rest of Miami is ok but I don't know much about it except there is an opera house that seems to be pretty decent. I went to the art district in downtown Miami once and was not too impressed by that... but I love south beach... beautiful people... beautiful hotels... it has a sexy mixed euro / american vibe... and I love that. Sometimes it's a bit over the top but at least it's original.

    I agree that the City of Miami is not without its charms, though perhaps not quite what the average gay man wants to see when he comes here. The Ziff Ballet Opera House you mention is quite good, and I've heard grand opera there, as well as gay choruses perform.

    Just south of downtown Miami is Vizcaya Museum & Gardens, worth a trip for a good part of a day. Perhaps interesting to note that the wealthy bachelor who built it around WWI is rumored to have been gay. Certainly his extravagant tastes are gay, almost Liberace without the piano, though a bit more refined.

    Yeah, Miami has things to see & do, but maybe not for a younger gay man, who wants a gayer scene with some of the beach and more bare muscles his own age, and more gay night life.

    EDIT: I've added some pics of these Miami attractions mentioned above --

    Me having a martini on Lincoln Mall in SoBe, something I do every few months (on SoBe, that is; I have martinis all the time)

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    Ocean Drive on SoBe along the beach. Some of the art deco hotels park vintage cars out front to add to the atmosphere

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    Friends in a box at the Ziff Opera House. Dressed casually because we're attending a series of gay choral performances, in which we also appeared onstage another day in proper attire. I'm having supper with them both later tonight.

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    Vizcaya as seen from the water approach off Biscayne Bay

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    South view of Vizcaya, from a portion of the formal gardens. The second-floor colonnade is the breakfast dining room, on the same floor as most of the bedrooms. The glass wall behind the columns can totally disappear for an open-air experience.

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    Jun 21, 2010 6:13 AM GMT
    Update: Yay! I get to come home today and stay for a couple days! icon_biggrin.gificon_biggrin.gificon_biggrin.gif
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    Jun 21, 2010 6:20 AM GMT
    @Wilton, awesome photos. QUestion: how can you stand the taste of Martini's? I've had a dirty martini once and sent it back because I could not drink it at all. I've love cocktails but that's one drink I can't stomach
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    Jun 21, 2010 9:47 AM GMT
    Ricovelas said@Wilton, awesome photos. QUestion: how can you stand the taste of Martini's? I've had a dirty martini once and sent it back because I could not drink it at all. I've love cocktails but that's one drink I can't stomach
    Dirty martinis suck ass.
    Try a dark chocolate martini or an espresso martini. Those rock! icon_biggrin.gif
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    Jun 21, 2010 12:55 PM GMT
    Ricovelas said@Wilton, awesome photos. QUestion: how can you stand the taste of Martini's? I've had a dirty martini once and sent it back because I could not drink it at all. I've love cocktails but that's one drink I can't stomach

    I've been drinking martinis for over 40 years (drinking was legal at 18 in parts of the US when I was that age). I agree they're an acquired taste, and at first I thought they tasted like carburetor cleaner (I spent some time as an auto mechanic during that period). But I thought it was my adult duty to learn to like them, and did I ever! Though even I will never have more than a few in a week, or else I begin to lose the taste for them.

    A dirty martini is interpreted several ways, but most properly mainly means the inclusion of some olive juice or brine along with the olives. Plus the steps of mixing and straining may be altered, sometimes resulting in some ice being in the served drink, versus the classic "straight up" presentation, with the ice totally strained away in pouring from the shaker. I have one gay friend who rolls his olives in a paper towel to remove any of the liquid before using them, so maybe his should be termed a "clean martini."

    Glad you liked the pics, I took all of them myself except the one of me, just pocket camera snapshots. Here are some more of Vizcaya:

    The statuary came from Europe, some quite ancient:

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    Pools and fountains are found all over the grounds:

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    Much of the gardens are laid out in formal patterns:

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    The figures give an idea of the scale:

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    My ex-BF on the bridge leading to the tea house. The distressed stone work seen throughout the estate was deliberate, so it would look Renaissance era from the day it was finished, although subsequent hurricanes have added genuine damage, too:

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    Jun 21, 2010 1:25 PM GMT
    Wilton, don't know you but, if you love martinis, you have to be a good guy! A slightly dirty gin martini(can't believe I have to use that phrase since a true martini is gin) with a blue cheese-stuffed olive at the bottom is pure ambrosia. icon_cool.gif
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    Jun 21, 2010 1:45 PM GMT
    muscles4muscles saidWilton, don't know you but, if you love martinis, you have to be a good guy! A slightly dirty gin martini(can't believe I have to use that phrase since a true martini is gin) with a blue cheese-stuffed olive at the bottom is pure ambrosia. icon_cool.gif

    Thank you, I take great interest in fellow martini drinkers myself. As for ingredients & methods, when I was drinking them in NYC there was no need to say anything but "martini" and you got a classic gin martini. Once I moved into the hinterlands, however, I had to order by saying "gin martini, straight up, medium dry." And even that didn't always get me what I wanted, which would prompt my frustrated late partner to bark at me not to order one while out, cause I never liked what I got.

    Case in point: I ordered at a hotel bar per the phrase above. Instead I got a squat cocktail glass filled with ice, and upon tasting it, found it was vodka. And I don't even look like any of the movie James Bonds.

    When I told the bartender I wanted a martini, I was told that's what I got. I said no, I wanted gin, and straight up. Again I was told I was wrong, that's how a martini is made! I replied that no matter how he thought it was made, I had specified gin straight up. I was told I had asked for a martini, and that's what I got, it wouldn't be remade. Unfortunately I was using a hotel bar credit, so I couldn't refuse to pay cash (that alone should have clued me). I never stayed at that hotel again, though I could have.

    Well, a bit off topic here, even the pics above a little, except maybe useful to those vacationing here. But if martinis are among anyone's interests, too, I'll make sure you get good ones while down here. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Jun 23, 2010 12:22 AM GMT
    I love my home!!! come come... guys.