Zeitgeist- a look at economic/social/political issues

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    Mar 04, 2008 6:46 PM GMT
    MunchingZombie saidSo this movie links Jesus, 9/11, and the Federal Reserve?

    Why were Roswell, Hitler, and the Knights Templar left out of the party?


    Because they needed someone with your sense of humour on the project?icon_lol.gif

    I am a firm believer that the USA is more prone to conspiracy theories because it was founded by people who were persecuted in their home countries. As opposed to Canada which was founded by people looking to get rich from furs and fish!
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    Mar 04, 2008 7:21 PM GMT
    Jarhead, thanks for your comment, and respect. I didn't mean to say that I believe all these theories, but I wanted to make the point that our CIA has a very terrible history of the human damage they have done. Don't put anything past power/money hungry people. I cannot say that the ones in power now did anything for sure, except its a known fact that they used this terrible event to forward their NEOCON goals of control. LOOK AT THE POWER GRABBING GOVERNMENTS OF THE PAST, HUMAN NATURE HASN'T CHANGED, THERE ARE NOW AND ALWAYS WILL BE THOSE WHO WILL STOP AT NOTHING TO GET WHAT THEY WANT. THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING !!!! and DON'T TRUST THIS CURRENT POWER HUNGRY BUNCH OF THUGS !!!
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    Mar 04, 2008 7:40 PM GMT
    NNJfitandbi said[quote][cite]jbedwards said[/cite]I am a firm believer that the USA is more prone to conspiracy theories because it was founded by people who were persecuted in their home countries. As opposed to Canada which was founded by people looking to get rich from furs and fish!


    Not too many Americans believe these conspiracies, my friend.

    Of course, no too many Americans know which party is in control of Congress, according to a recent poll.

    As for conspiracy theories about 9/11, I think France is the place where they flourished. A wicked book was atop the French bestseller list for months.[/quote]

    Good heavens I would hope in a well educated society virtually nobody would believe such theories, let alone not many. Your comment about not too many Americans knowing who controlled Congress caused me to gasp I must admit.

    I am not surprised that France was one place where they flourished, it has a love/hate relationship with the USA, and it has a large population of disenfranchised American-hating moslems.
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    Mar 05, 2008 12:53 AM GMT
    jbedwords---your right about France and their love hate with we US citizens. My daughter was to fly out to Marceille france on 9-11 of course that was cancelled, I took her to the airport a couple weeks later, then joined her in Marceille france in early December that year. She had made many friends who were Muslim since she stayed in southern France nearly the whole time. They were cautious about what they said, but the actual French folk would just come right out and say they were glad 9-11 happened, she told me that there were several times that she was a bit afraid because of the reaction against US citizens. While I was there with her, we hung out with a croation boy and some Muslims, and they were very very kind to my daughter and me. I would be happy to have friends like them for life.
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    Mar 05, 2008 1:37 AM GMT
    realifedad said jbedwords---your right about France and their love hate with we US citizens. My daughter was to fly out to Marceille france on 9-11 of course that was cancelled, I took her to the airport a couple weeks later, then joined her in Marceille france in early December that year. She had made many friends who were Muslim since she stayed in southern France nearly the whole time. They were cautious about what they said, but the actual French folk would just come right out and say they were glad 9-11 happened, she told me that there were several times that she was a bit afraid because of the reaction against US citizens. While I was there with her, we hung out with a croation boy and some Muslims, and they were very very kind to my daughter and me. I would be happy to have friends like them for life.


    Anybody that says they are glad that 9/11 happened is just one sick and insensitive puppy. I am surprised some French would be so cavalier in their opinions. In the 1990's an Air France Airbus A300 was hijacked in Algeria by extremists. The hijackers ultimate plan was to fly it into the Eiffel Tower. 9/11 was a shock but it should not have been, extremists had planned attacks like that before, it was just the first successful one.

    I am glad your daughter was safe and that she met some kind muslim people. When I visited Paris in 2001 I was surprised by the two solitudes of the city. I was warned by one of my travelling companions (French-Canadian) not to go to the Arab section, he said "they are dirty people" with obvious contempt. Okay then.
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    Mar 05, 2008 2:03 AM GMT
    IIn my many travels through Europe, I have never been treated rudely or in any way in contempt. People have always been very warm and welcoming to me and my friends. I have never felt any sense of anti-Americanism. When I was England we just mentioned the French to one cabby and oh boy!!!! The contempt he had for the French was extreme! He seemed to echo the opinions of many in England and other countries I have been. Personally I have no ill will toward anyone. I work very closely with people from all over the world, Europe, Asia, Middle East, Africa. Every single one of them has truly valued their time in the US and almost don't want to go back to their own country. Many people from other countries share the same frustrations we have with our government but are intelligent enough to separate the people of the US from the policies of the government.

    I agree that anyone who was happy to see 9/11 is no better than the soulless terrorists who are now burning in Hell where they belong. To wish the deaths of innocent people at the hands of mass murderers is disgusting and inhumane to say the least.
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    Mar 05, 2008 2:51 AM GMT
    Rhodielifter saidIn my many travels through Europe, I have never been treated rudely or in any way in contempt. People have always been very warm and welcoming to me and my friends...


    Rhodie, how can anyone take a look at you and not want to welcome you and hold you to their bosom?! **

    I've heard these conspiracy theories literally from the day of the bombing, onward. I don't think we'll ever know if/to what extent Bush and Cheney had foreknowledge of the event. And I think it is over the top to think they helped facilitate it. However, their lies to inject our nation's troops into the middle east, their opportunistic use of this tragedy to further their own previous plans of invasion into Iraq, have confirmed for me how completely contemptible they are.

    ( ** If I were the coochie type, I'd insert one of those irritating smiley faces here, but I've always hated coochie ....)
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    Mar 06, 2008 6:18 PM GMT
    everyone is certainly entitled to their own opinion. i don't necessarily believe everything that's in the film either.

    but there's definately a difference between having difference of opinion and choosing to chastise someone for whatever reason you might find they deserve it. all you folks are doing is showing your quality of character, which doesn't seem to be amazingly high.

    i don't regret having made this post. in fact it turned out to be a bit entertaining.

    best,
    -jason