maltodextrin = high maltose corn syrup?

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    Oct 14, 2010 5:17 AM GMT
    For the longest time I thought that maltodextrin was ok to consume. I read on another forum that people use this when they try to achieve the 2:1:1 recovery ratio. Because of that, I thought that maltodextrin must not be so bad. I guess I'm wrong because in looking up this new thing, high maltose corn syrup, I discovered that it's also known as maltodextrin.

    I'm sure that you guys are aware of how bad high fructose corn syrup is for you. High maltose corn syrup is supposedly a cousin within the same family so you can assume that it's probably just as bad.

    Here's the article on it:

    Am I getting my facts all screwed up? What's the deal? is maltodextrin and high maltose corn syrup really the same thing? Thanks for any feedback!
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    Oct 14, 2010 12:30 PM GMT
    I'm not an expert on the topic, so someone correct me if I'm wrong.

    Maltodextrin is a subtype of high maltose corn syrup.

    If you completely hydrolyze (convert) corn starch, the resulting product will be glucose.
    If you just partially hydrolyze (convert) corn starch, you will end up with a maltose glucose mixture or syrup. (Maltose is just two glucose molecules attached to one another, and is the sugar used when beer is fermented).
    The extent of conversion is typically quantified by dextrose equivalent (DE), which is roughly the fraction of the glycosidic bonds in starch that have been broken. In medicine, the word dextrose is used interchangeably with the word glucose.
    The greater the conversion the sweeter the syrup.
    Maltodextrin is lightly hydrolyzed (DE 10-20) starch product used as a bland-tasting filler and thickener.
    If the starch is completely converted to glucose, the DE is 100 or 100% conversion.

    Some processed foods will contain the high maltose corn syrup, Maltodextrin, as a filler and a second high maltose corn syrup with a higher DE to make it sweeter.

    When ingested, maltose is broken down into into 2 molecules of glucose. Glucose can readily be metabolized by muscle and the brain tissue. Glucose will also cause insulin levels to rise. The insulin rise results in the muscle taking up protein for muscle growth and glucose for energy use. Fructose is different, and needs to be metabolized in the liver. Fructose also does not lead to an insulin spike. The liver metabolism issue raises concerns among some experts. Although highly controversial, some experts believe that the difference in metabolism led to the obesity epidemic. Fructose when metabolized can lead to higher levels of triglycerides and uric acid in the body. Triglycerides can lead to problems like hardening of the arteries and inflammation of the pancreas. Uric acid can cause gout and kidney stones.

    Theoretically high maltose fructose corn syrup should be safer than high fructose corn syrup. It will take several years of observation to determine if maltose syrup is truly safer than fructose syrup.

    If you worry about such things, another problem is that the corn used for syrup production is genetically altered vs the corn you buy in a market.
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    Oct 14, 2010 4:24 PM GMT
    Avoid the hype. Stick with raw, unprocessed sugar whenever possible.
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    Oct 14, 2010 6:21 PM GMT
    High Fructose Corn Syrup metabolizes nearly identically as sucrose. The HFCS media hype is bullshit. I want everyone to make friends with actual biochemists.
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    Oct 14, 2010 6:45 PM GMT
    I know of 4 people who are using "SENSA" (which contains maltodextrin) and it is working without any known side-effects.
    One has lost 12lbs in 30 days.
    Two have lost 10lbs in 30 days.
    One has lost 14lbs in 35 days.
    It works by 'telling' your brain that you are full. So you stop eating.That is all that 3 of the 4 are doing differently than before. The guy who lost 14lbs started walking more in the last 10 days, so that helps too.


    Review here:

    And here:

    When you see a guy weighing 265lbs push away half a Whopper and say "I'm stuffed!".....well. That's proof. icon_wink.gif