Uganda Front Page: 100 top Homosexuals - 'Hang Them'

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    Nov 01, 2010 3:53 AM GMT
    TigerTim said
    CuriousJockAZ saidIt's just shocking that parts of the world are so barbaric.


    This sort of statement is deeply racist.


    No, it's accurate. This kind of statement, also from this thread, is much, much closer to being racist: "What a bunch of fucking monkeys in that country."
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    Nov 01, 2010 5:32 AM GMT
    Fearthefall said
    TigerTim said
    CuriousJockAZ saidIt's just shocking that parts of the world are so barbaric.


    This sort of statement is deeply racist.


    No, it's accurate. This kind of statement, also from this thread, is much, much closer to being racist: "What a bunch of fucking monkeys in that country."


    I agree. I think that we as gays need to be watchful of our own biases. Calling Africans "monkeys" is just as hateful as people calling gays "faggots". We can't demand equality and then vocally oppose other minorities.
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    Nov 01, 2010 7:17 PM GMT


    Ugandan paper ordered to stop printing list of gay people


    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/nov/01/uganda-paper-gay-list




    http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=132079896833590
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    Nov 01, 2010 7:42 PM GMT
    travelfan said
    Fearthefall said
    TigerTim said
    CuriousJockAZ saidIt's just shocking that parts of the world are so barbaric.


    This sort of statement is deeply racist.


    No, it's accurate. This kind of statement, also from this thread, is much, much closer to being racist: "What a bunch of fucking monkeys in that country."


    I agree. I think that we as gays need to be watchful of our own biases. Calling Africans "monkeys" is just as hateful as people calling gays "faggots". We can't demand equality and then vocally oppose other minorities.


    totally agree!!!
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    Nov 01, 2010 8:20 PM GMT
    A judge has ordered the paper to cease its publication of names and photographs of 'alleged homosexuals". The judge ruled those publications were "an infringement or invasion of the right to privacy" of the individuals accused.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-11666789

    "The publisher, Giles Muhame, editor of the two-month-old Rolling Stone paper, told the AFP news agency that he would defy the ban.

    "We will publish more pictures but in a diplomatic way, so that we can dodge the law," he said.

    He says he is trying to protect Ugandans from those seeking to "recruit children to homosexuality".
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    Nov 01, 2010 9:56 PM GMT
    Fearthefall said
    TigerTim said
    CuriousJockAZ saidIt's just shocking that parts of the world are so barbaric.


    This sort of statement is deeply racist.


    No, it's accurate. This kind of statement, also from this thread, is much, much closer to being racist: "What a bunch of fucking monkeys in that country."


    I certainly agree that the monkey comment is obviously racist.

    But the language of "barbarian" versus the implied civilized is no less racist, and is far more pernicious. I am reminded of the famous speech by Enoch Powell: "Like the Roman, I seem to see the Tiber foaming with much blood."

    With similar words, every empire in the history of the world has thought of itself in opposition to barbarians. These thoughts are deeply corrupting indeed.

    The biggest problem with them is that they ignore the context of theUgandan society. There are Ugandan people---bishops no less---who fight for LGBT equality and help gay Ugandans. It is *these people* who deserve our support, and these people who we should make heard. Their work is as inspirational even if it is so sad that it is necessary. The line is thoroughly blurred by theneglection of the role of American Evangelicals in stirring up this Hornets nest.

    So who are the barbarians here again? It is regrettable that CuriousJock, as ever, shows an inability to think beyond black and white. In the west, we are in danger of allowing purported homophobia to be another tool in the unending misrepresentation of Africa.
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    Nov 02, 2010 3:16 AM GMT
    So this guy is the editor of The Rolling Stone:
    http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1544454956
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    Nov 02, 2010 3:21 AM GMT


    CNN

    http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/world/2010/10/28/intv.editor.called.gays.hanged.cnn.html
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    Nov 03, 2010 8:54 AM GMT
    Facebook has removed The Rolling Stone page.

    Interview with persecuted gay Ugandan
    http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/world/2010/10/28/intv.mckenzie.gay.ugandan.cnn.html