SOMEONE ASKED ME A QUESTION DO YOU AGREE WITH MY ANWSER?

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    Oct 29, 2010 6:29 PM GMT
    PRINCETONY said
    Mil8 saidAs a gay person, why on earth would you not want your child to be gay?

    I think it is a perfectly natural aspiration for a gay person.


    so like he said if u had cancer would u want your kid to have cancer also?


    Don't be so fucking stupid.
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    Oct 29, 2010 6:31 PM GMT
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    PRINCETONY said
    Mil8 saidAs a gay person, why on earth would you not want your child to be gay?

    I think it is a perfectly natural aspiration for a gay person.


    so like he said if u had cancer would u want your kid to have cancer also?


    Don't be so fucking stupid.


    Thank you,

    Being gay is not like having cancer. Also, on a side note, your response should have been "I dont give a shit." Because, lets face it, in this day and age it doesn't matter who your kid wants to screw, and it shouldn't matter to you.

    Your response reeks of internal homophobia.
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    Oct 29, 2010 6:33 PM GMT
    I would want my kid to be happy and know he was loved for who he was.... not what he is....So I don't agree with your biased answer...It has more to do about your experiences ..not your future child's...My opinion...BUD
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    Oct 29, 2010 7:06 PM GMT
    I'd want my kids to be happy, regardless of what gender they're sexually attracted to.
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    Oct 29, 2010 7:09 PM GMT
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    PRINCETONY said
    Mil8 saidAs a gay person, why on earth would you not want your child to be gay?

    I think it is a perfectly natural aspiration for a gay person.


    so like he said if u had cancer would u want your kid to have cancer also?


    Don't be so fucking stupid.


    Thank you,

    Being gay is not like having cancer. Also, on a side note, your response should have been "I dont give a shit." Because, lets face it, in this day and age it doesn't matter who your kid wants to screw, and it shouldn't matter to you.

    Your response reeks of internal homophobia.
    Its ingrained/taught into his culture (Michigan) and his youth.. someday he might actually learn he was duped since birth!
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    Oct 29, 2010 7:16 PM GMT
    [quote][cite]TropicalMark said Its ingrained/taught into his culture (Michigan) and his youth.. someday he might actually learn he was duped since birth![/quote]

    I guess thats true, I take for granite being born and raised in San Francisco.
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    Oct 29, 2010 7:16 PM GMT
    This is possibly the single saddest topic posting I've read on this site.

    I have never wanted to, still don't want to, and cannot imagine ever wanting to be straight. Ever.

    I consider being a gay man one of the greatest gifts of my life, in spite of any grief the un-evolved, bigoted and hateful fools that pollute the planet with homophobia have given me over the decades.

    I wouldn't trade it for ANYTHING, regardless. Wanting equality, freedom, and some measure of assimilation without ignorant presumptions has never once made me regret being gay. This is my life, my identity, my heart, my soul just as is. To be anything other than a man, and on top of that a man who loves men, would be pure hell for me, personally.

    I've never wished any straight friend was anything other than who they are, either. But I sure as hell wouldn't trade places with them. Nope, this is an amazing, complicated, rich, crazy life and what I make of it is up to me.

    My children would be given the same perspective - you are valuable, unique, and truly one of a kind, and you are to be celebrated as you are, never envious of others, never regretful of your circumstances, and in complete control of your own destiny as determined by your choices and actions.

    Feeling victimized or unfairly burdened by your circumstances is an act of cowardice, and wishing you were different is a waste of your personal gifts and talents - whatever they may be. Strive to be educated, respect others and learn kindness, grace, dignity, compassion, honesty, charity, courage, tenacity, diligence, determination, humility and, above all else, love, and you will have a rich life.
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    Oct 29, 2010 7:27 PM GMT
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    TropicalMark said Its ingrained/taught into his culture (Michigan) and his youth.. someday he might actually learn he was duped since birth!


    I guess thats true, I take for granite being born and raised in San Francisco.
    Thats kinda easy isnt it LOL
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    Oct 29, 2010 7:58 PM GMT
    I have to say that I completely understand where Tony is coming from. For many people growing up, being gay has caused a lot of emotional hardships that I would not wish on anyone, especially any children I would have.

    My younger brother came out to me about a year ago, and my initial response was extreme sadness. Obviously I don't care if he is gay or not, but I was sad because I instantly knew the emotional turmoil he had to go through in our conservative Catholic Minnesotan family. Being gay causes so much unhappiness and depression in young teens faced with a conservative culture, and no one wants their loved ones to have to experience that.

    Everyone just wants their loved ones to be happy, and let's face it, in a lot of places it is easier if one is straight. Do I wish that I were straight? No. Being gay has made me who I am today, and I like who I am. Do I wish my brother was straight? No. That is who he is, and he should be free to express that. Anyone here who is saying they would rather have straight children says it because they want their children's lives to be easy and happy, not because they don't want to have gay children.
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    Oct 29, 2010 8:04 PM GMT
    PRINCETONY said
    Mil8 saidAs a gay person, why on earth would you not want your child to be gay?

    I think it is a perfectly natural aspiration for a gay person.


    so like he said if u had cancer would u want your kid to have cancer also?



    I believe this is the saddest comment on here on RJ. Don't blame it on the kid being raised in Michigan. Most of us have more sense than that. Most seven year old children would understand the stupidity of the comparison.
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    Oct 29, 2010 8:20 PM GMT
    So many people here are mentioning "hardship" as a consequence of being gay.

    I don't know how you build character and learn self-worth without some adversity or challenge. Having it "easier" does not mean that you will de-facto have it better.

    I don't wish anyone pain or suffering, but I believe that you cannot possibly be engaged in life, and truly live, without having faced some challenge. Similarly, if you think you will make it through life without having unintentionally been hurt by or hurt someone you love, then you're living a fantasy, to my way of thinking.

    Being gay is not a sentence, nor necessarily a challenge. Becoming self-actualized and overcoming the ignorance and intolerance of others may be more intense as a gay man or lesbian, but in 2010 we have a growing number of good role models for proving that life as a gay man is, can be, should be in fact a rewarding and rich experience.

    Protecting our children from harm is instinctual. Wishing things were magical and perfect is delusional and damaging. We can empathize with young men who have to face the challenges, and may wish we could do it for them to save them the struggle, but it's wrong to believe that they can grow and find happiness without having to put in the hard work life throws at you. It's the emotional and social equivalent of parents who do their children's homework for them and complain that they're being pushed too hard in school. Really? And what would you have them do? Everybody gets and A and trophies all around just for existing? The instinct is valid, the reality that something better is possible, and that happiness and strength of character, and real love are waiting should be the message - live and live deeply and richly and the rewards are there. Shy from them, fear them, feel put upon as a result and you will suffer endlessly for no good reason.
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    Oct 29, 2010 8:22 PM GMT
    If i were straight, i'd wish my children to be happy and i'd wish for myself to be mature enough to accept them as they are, to teach them about understanding, about hability, about many sort of instruments they can use in life, cause life will never be easy for anyone. To never be ashame of their true selves, to always have the conscience to understand the situations and most of all, to always trust in me no matter how bad something can be, for id be with him, and finally, i'd wish to see him become a true happy human being...
    Therefor, no... i don't agree with ur answer...

    Cheers ^_^
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    Oct 29, 2010 9:59 PM GMT
    omg living in michigan has nothing to do with it people,we all have dff opinions and your not getting my question

    let me put this way

    lets say you guys are stra8 right and u been with your girlfriend blah blah and you guys want to have a kid and she gets pregnate and lets say this is in the future and you can tell your kids sexuality and you could pick for it to be stra8 or gay,you could change it,your telling me you guys wouldn't change it if you could?

    and yes i know cancer is not like being gay but still i wouldn't want to have a gay baby or even have kids,i mean i love kids i have a little nephew and hes my world but nah..
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    Oct 29, 2010 10:01 PM GMT
    PRINCETONY saidomg living in michigan has nothing to do with it people,we all have dff opinions and your not getting my question

    let me put this way

    lets say you guys are stra8 right and u been with your girlfriend blah blah and you guys want to have a kid and she gets pregnate and lets say this is in the future and you can tell your kids sexuality and you could pick for it to be stra8 or gay,you could change it,your telling me you guys wouldn't change it if you could?

    and yes i know cancer is not like being gay but still i wouldn't want to have a gay baby or even have kids,i mean i love kids i have a little nephew and hes my world but nah..


    I wouldnt pick, I wouldnt care, it doesnt matter.

    Your making it out as like being gay is the same as having the black plague. Its all in your mind, man. As long as you think your life is hard, difficult, challenging and so forth because your gay it will be. You being gay has nothing to do with it.

    If you weren't gay, you would chose some other reason to be upset.
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    Oct 29, 2010 10:09 PM GMT
    lol, you guys...we see TONY's comment to those co-workers as a warning sign much like the canary in the mine shaft. It's coming at a time when gays are getting pretty outrageously harassed and committing suicide.
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    Oct 29, 2010 10:18 PM GMT
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    PRINCETONY saidomg living in michigan has nothing to do with it people,we all have dff opinions and your not getting my question

    let me put this way

    lets say you guys are stra8 right and u been with your girlfriend blah blah and you guys want to have a kid and she gets pregnate and lets say this is in the future and you can tell your kids sexuality and you could pick for it to be stra8 or gay,you could change it,your telling me you guys wouldn't change it if you could?

    and yes i know cancer is not like being gay but still i wouldn't want to have a gay baby or even have kids,i mean i love kids i have a little nephew and hes my world but nah..


    I wouldnt pick, I wouldnt care, it doesnt matter.

    Your making it out as like being gay is the same as having the black plague. Its all in your mind, man. As long as you think your life is hard, difficult, challenging and so forth because your gay it will be. You being gay has nothing to do with it.

    If you weren't gay, you would chose some other reason to be upset.


    maybe or maybe im not explaining myself i ate to much candy,im not upset with being gay, im proud to be gay but people think being gay is all about clubs and dancing and getting laid and dying of aids,when its so so much more then that.
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    Oct 29, 2010 10:25 PM GMT
    TONY I think you've been perfectly clear. I can give another example.

    Back in the early sixties it was pretty horrible for black people. One of my relatives wished her kids had been born white because life would have been 1000% better (easier to exist without overt obnoxious constant racist bigotry) for them.
    Did she love them because they were black? D'OH, of course she did. Would she say that today? Nope.

    -Doug
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    Oct 29, 2010 10:27 PM GMT
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    lets say you guys are stra8 right and u been with your girlfriend blah blah and you guys want to have a kid and she gets pregnate and lets say this is in the future and you can tell your kids sexuality and you could pick for it to be stra8 or gay,you could change it,your telling me you guys wouldn't change it if you could?



    Yes, I am honestly saying that if I was given the chance, I would not change it. Despite being gay, I have had a good life. It has not always been easy, but I would not change a thing. Yes, it does get better.
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    Oct 29, 2010 10:28 PM GMT
    No, I think your answer missed the mark.

    I'd have answered that I'd want my kids to be happy. Neither gay nor straight owns the patent on that, life's biggest accomplishment.
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    Oct 29, 2010 10:28 PM GMT
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    PRINCETONY saidomg living in michigan has nothing to do with it people,we all have dff opinions and your not getting my question

    let me put this way

    lets say you guys are stra8 right and u been with your girlfriend blah blah and you guys want to have a kid and she gets pregnate and lets say this is in the future and you can tell your kids sexuality and you could pick for it to be stra8 or gay,you could change it,your telling me you guys wouldn't change it if you could?

    and yes i know cancer is not like being gay but still i wouldn't want to have a gay baby or even have kids,i mean i love kids i have a little nephew and hes my world but nah..


    I wouldnt pick, I wouldnt care, it doesnt matter.

    Your making it out as like being gay is the same as having the black plague. Its all in your mind, man. As long as you think your life is hard, difficult, challenging and so forth because your gay it will be. You being gay has nothing to do with it.

    If you weren't gay, you would chose some other reason to be upset.


    maybe or maybe im not explaining myself i ate to much candy,im not upset with being gay, im proud to be gay but people think being gay is all about clubs and dancing and getting laid and dying of aids,when its so so much more then that.


    Then educate them. I run into the same problem too, however wishing that less people are going to be gay isnt going to change that.

    Also, as for Meninlove's comment about people getting harrassed and such. Yes, it is tasteless to make fun of someone for their sexuality, however children get harrassed every day for different reasons. Now couldnt be a better time to be gay, or would you rather have us go back 60 years when we had to hide out at dirty bars and cruise in bathrooms to satisfy our urges? Or get arrested by the government and go to jail for being who we are?

    The glass can either be half full, or half empty, it is in the eyes of the beholder to determine that.
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    Oct 29, 2010 10:33 PM GMT
    "Now couldnt be a better time to be gay, or would you rather have us go back 60 years when we had to hide out at dirty bars and cruise in bathrooms to satisfy our urges?"

    Hmm, where we are we have complete equal rights, so it could get a lot better down there, couldn't it? That now couldn't be a better time to be gay is only as good as each individual's situation, and some are in very very bad situations.

    Lol, who said anything about we would be all better off 60 years ago? That one's a head-scratcher.
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    Oct 29, 2010 10:36 PM GMT
    Before I answer, did this conversation even happen?
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    Oct 29, 2010 10:41 PM GMT
    They asked you to talk about whether or not you'd want your kids to be gay, not whether or not you wanted them to be victims.

    The more I think about this, the more it pisses me off. If you only want to have kids who will have an easy life, do yourself a favor and don't have kids.
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    Oct 29, 2010 10:42 PM GMT
    badmikeyt said
    The more I think about this, the more it pisses me off. If you only want to have kids who will have an easy life, do yourself a favor and don't have kids.


    QFT!!!!!!!!
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    Oct 29, 2010 10:43 PM GMT
    Oh I don't know badmikeyt, most parents would want things easier for their kids, (which is different form 'easy').