Beck on Soros

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    Nov 15, 2010 2:25 AM GMT
    Despite stories in various media about Beck's latest rantings about George Soros for the life of me I can't find any response from FOX on the outrage directed at Beck over this.

    Can anyone point me to a FOX response to Beck accusing Soros of helping send Jews "to the gas chambers" as a child?

    Is there NO shame to this man?

    Can't he be sued for slander and bankrupted? isn't FOX accountable for what gets said on their network?

    1st Amendment rights don't protect outright lies and vicious slander.

    to blame someone for being a "nazi collaborator" when they were a CHILD is just beyond the pale.

    No conscience.

    No moral compass.

    Pure evil.
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    Nov 15, 2010 2:35 AM GMT
    Libertarian Reason magazine joins growing chorus condeming Beck's Soros attacks
    November 14, 2010 4:59 pm ET by Justin Berrier

    Beck's three-day attack on Jewish financier George Soros has been widely criticized by Jewish leaders, Holocaust survivors and, most recently, Commentary magazine which describes itself as "the flagship of neoconservatism." Critics have been particularly concerned with Beck's false smears related to Soros' actions as a 14-year-old Hungarian Jew during the Holocaust. Beck suggested that Soros was a Holocaust collaborator, even going so far as to suggest that Soros helped "send the Jews" to "death camps."

    Libertarian Reason magazine joined the growing condemnation of Beck's false attacks in a November 12 post on its blog, Hit & Run. Reason's editor-in-chief Matt Welch decried Beck's attacks on George Soros as a "ridiculous misreading" which "sets back the cause of human understanding." Welch went on to criticize Beck's suggestion that Soros' "actions were worthy of regret" as a 14-year-old during the Holocaust, writing of such attacks, "I am constantly surprised by how quickly people are willing to toss decency and basic rationality out the window when discussing a gate figure from the other team."

    Welch also said he was "inclined to agree" with "critics" who "are describing [Beck's] characterizations of Soros' wartime activities as factually incorrect," but noted "even if the descriptions were 100 percent accurate and proportional, I would find" Beck's comments "above appalling on a basic human level."

    From Welch's November 12 post:

    First and foremostly, having lived in Soros' home town of Budapest for three years, plus another five in Prague and Bratislava (and an abortive, short-term attempt to "move" to Cuba), I have become convinced beyond the shadow of a doubt about this one thing: As a native son of the free world you can and damn well should cheer a person who acted bravely in the face of a pervasive and murderous totalitarian state, but with the exception of the monsters who willfully abused power there, you had better err massively on the side of reticence before casting negative judgment on the compromises that captive citizens made under a pressure we literally cannot fathom. This goes doubly for pubescent kids, and off the freakin' charts when it comes to a 14-year-old Jew in Jew-butchering Hungary in 1944 trying to stay alive. I would think that this would be a common-sense thing, but I am constantly surprised by how quickly people are willing to toss decency and basic rationality out the window when discussing a hate figure from the other team.


    So Beck isn't blaming or questioning the 14-year-old, he just thinks that the 14-year-old's actions were worthy of regret, and quite possibly the source of later behaviors--including some directed at Israel--that are wrong-headed and dangerous. Glad we cleared that up!

    Beck's critics are describing his characterizations of Soros' wartime activities as factually incorrect; scanning through these links I'm inclined to agree. But even if the descriptions were 100 percent accurate and proportional, I would find the passage above appalling on a basic human level. There is a palpable whiff of suggestion that 14-year-old George Soros not only enjoyed "helping send the Jews to the death camps" (another Beck formulation from this week), but that he still lights up with mirth at the thought of the idea six decades later, perhaps explaining why he hates Israel to this day. It is a hint and a nudge that the hunted teenage Jew might have been and maybe still is an anti-Semite. Not only are we passing over the only real emotional response appropriate for a 14-year-old Holocaust survivor--bottomless, uncomprehending sympathy for the traumas he and so many other children went through--we are passing negative judgment on his actions under fire, and using it as a Rosetta Stone to explain his darkly nefarious afterlife.

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    Nov 15, 2010 2:39 AM GMT
    from Huffington Post:

    by Cenk Uygur

    Host of The Young Turks

    Posted: November 12, 2010 10:14 AM BIO Become a Fan Get Email Alerts Bloggers' Index

    Glenn Beck's Horrific Lie

    As much as I disagree with the hosts on Fox News, I have never called for any of them to be fired. I defended Don Imus when he got in trouble with his incendiary comments. That's because I believe a talk show host should have wide berth, even to offend. They are the conversation starters and at the heart of our political discourse.

    Of course, as a talk show host I'm very biased on this issue, but I think it helps the national conversation to hear everyone out. That's even if what they're saying is outrageous or not even remotely true. Let there be a battlefield of ideas and I think the truth will win out in the long run (though it loses many battles in the short run).

    Now that you know how strongly I feel about that -- I think Glenn Beck should be fired. He has told a lie so grotesque that it goes beyond the pale of even dirty politics. Just when I thought he couldn't shock my conscience anymore, he has done it. Let me explain.

    George Soros survived the Holocaust. He is Jewish and when the Nazis caught up with his family his father saved his life by bribing an agricultural official to pretend Soros was his Christian godson. At one point, that man took the fourteen year old Soros to survey and appraise the property that had been confiscated from another Jewish family. Obviously Soros did not have a choice in the matter. Soros eventually survived the Holocaust.

    To most this would be an amazing and harrowing story of survival during the Holocaust. To Beck it was an opportunity to paint Soros as an anti-Semite and smear him with one of the worst lies I have ever heard.

    First Beck started by horribly warping this story on his Fox News show. He said of Soros:

    [When he was] 14 years old, he had to help the government confiscate the land of his fellow Jewish friends and neighbors.
    That's not what happened at all as you can see from above. He didn't help confiscate people's land. He didn't actively participate in betraying his Jewish neighbors or friends. The implications are horrible. But what Beck did next is much worse. He twisted the story further until he came out with this inexcusable lie on his radio show:

    [H]ere's a Jewish boy helping send the Jews to the death camps.
    That lie takes my breath away. That is a lie that cannot be told.

    The ADL has now condemned Beck's statements as "horrific."

    Michelle Goldberg has a terrific article in The Daily Beast explaining how Beck's two part series on Fox News Channel about George Soros was classic anti-Semitism. He even named the series "Puppet Master." Nazi propaganda used to call Jews the "wire pullers."

    The Nazis would say in their propaganda pieces that Jews secretly controlled everything and brought down whatever governments they didn't like. Beck's two part series on Soros talked about how he was the secret force behind the progressive agenda and surreptitiously brought down governments he didn't like (Communist governments by the way, but apparently he doesn't get credit for that). And Beck concludes by saying that we might be next. Soros might destroy our country. This is anti-Semitism 101.

    One man has already tried to assassinate people who worked for the Tides Foundation because Beck accused them of being tied to George Soros. That man was caught in a shoot-out with cops before he could kill the people who worked there. Beck undeterred by what he is spurring people to do, has put his foot on the gas pedeal to try to stoke the fires more.

    Fox News has told and spread many lies, ranging from the absurd (President Obama is going to spend $200 million a day in his trip to India) to the politically devastating (they invited John Kerry's accusers on-air to smear his Vietnam service repeatedly during the 2004 election). I know that's what they do. But even I didn't know it went this far. If Beck doesn't get fired over this, what else can he say? I literally cannot think of anything more outrageous.

    They call themselves a "News Channel." Is this the kind of "news" people want to participate in?

    This is the kind of thing people should resign in protest over. This is the kind of thing that guests shouldn't go on the channel over. This is the kind of thing that people shouldn't want their names associated with.

    If Fox doesn't fire Beck over this, well then you know exactly where they stand. It certainly isn't as a news channel.

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    Nov 15, 2010 7:18 PM GMT
    Quoth the Wingnuts: