StudlyScrewRite said Card carrying member of the Libertarian party here for over 20 years.
meninlove said Bill and I both like the 'Coffee Party".
NCReal06 saidI got Libertarian as well. I think people should be allowed to do what they want. Obviously if your actions are truly impending on others (like drunk driving) there should be punishment in place. At the same time I've witnessed way too many people taking advantage of the welfare system, and does not allow some people to take advantage of it who truly need it..but that's a WHOLE other topic.
mocktwinkie saidI'm 80/100.
Some of those questions are agree in concept but not in reality, for instance, something like a national ID card should not be necessary, but when you have people who take advantage of a system that isn't set up to be bankruptcy proof, then it's necessary to implement measures to preserve that institution, like welfare, for instance. Some times you have to vote for the practical reality, not the abstract idea.
meninlove said The questions were too extreme. It just isn't that simple.
I did the other one ppsted on a topic and I came out left leaning libertarian, which is partly true only, because I have some conservative leaning when it comes to finance.
At this point Bill says he fits no political party, having just abandoned conservatism (though I keep telling him being fiscally conservative is fine, as long as you don't toss out your humanity in the process).
-Doug
PS both sides have something huge to offer if they meet in the middle. Bill and I both like the 'Coffee Party".
TigerTim saidmocktwinkie saidI'm 80/100.
Some of those questions are agree in concept but not in reality, for instance, something like a national ID card should not be necessary, but when you have people who take advantage of a system that isn't set up to be bankruptcy proof, then it's necessary to implement measures to preserve that institution, like welfare, for instance. Some times you have to vote for the practical reality, not the abstract idea.
Have you any idea of the cost of a National ID card system?
What a profligate waste of public money. Fucking socialist.
mocktwinkie saidTigerTim saidmocktwinkie saidI'm 80/100.
Some of those questions are agree in concept but not in reality, for instance, something like a national ID card should not be necessary, but when you have people who take advantage of a system that isn't set up to be bankruptcy proof, then it's necessary to implement measures to preserve that institution, like welfare, for instance. Some times you have to vote for the practical reality, not the abstract idea.
Have you any idea of the cost of a National ID card system?
What a profligate waste of public money. Fucking socialist.
I didn't state that clearly. I don't agree with a national ID card, but I was making a reference to some form of identification in order to determine eligibility or legality. We already have one somewhat -- the drivers license. But it's all contingent on whether or not we have welfare.
TigerTim saidmocktwinkie saidI'm 80/100.
Some of those questions are agree in concept but not in reality, for instance, something like a national ID card should not be necessary, but when you have people who take advantage of a system that isn't set up to be bankruptcy proof, then it's necessary to implement measures to preserve that institution, like welfare, for instance. Some times you have to vote for the practical reality, not the abstract idea.
Have you any idea of the cost of a National ID card system?
What a profligate waste of public money. Fucking socialist.
jprichva saidmocktwinkie said
Being fiscally conservative has nothing to do with removing humanity, it just places it in different and more efficient hands.
I used to trade options on the floor of the stock exchange in New York, and I also later traded commodities for my clients on the various commodity exchanges. You obviously know nothing about markets: they are not efficient, and they are constantly manipulated. Cheating is rampant, and the deck is enormously stacked against the small investor.
Not for the first time (and surely not the last) you really have no idea what you're talking about.
jprichva saidriddler78 said Calling it cheating is simply not true - sure there is insider trading from time to time, but this doesn't mean smaller investors can't outperform by having better insight because of a longer term view
I'm not even chiefly talking about 'insider trading'. I'm talking about various other scams, such as front-running, pump & dump (just to name a couple).
TigerTim saidmocktwinkie saidTigerTim saidmocktwinkie saidI'm 80/100.
Some of those questions are agree in concept but not in reality, for instance, something like a national ID card should not be necessary, but when you have people who take advantage of a system that isn't set up to be bankruptcy proof, then it's necessary to implement measures to preserve that institution, like welfare, for instance. Some times you have to vote for the practical reality, not the abstract idea.
Have you any idea of the cost of a National ID card system?
What a profligate waste of public money. Fucking socialist.
I didn't state that clearly. I don't agree with a national ID card, but I was making a reference to some form of identification in order to determine eligibility or legality. We already have one somewhat -- the drivers license. But it's all contingent on whether or not we have welfare.
The drivers license is NOT and NEVER has been a proof of citizenship or even identity. They DO NOT prove eligibility for anything. They are easy to forge and administration varies tremendously by state [as is right and proper].
Errors in eligibility are due mainly to administrative incompetence---it's the back end that needs to be improved not the front end.
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