Keep It Up, Republicans....

• turtleneckjoc...
  
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  Dec 02, 2010 12:28 AM GMT

  .....as your asses are gonna be turned out in 2012. It will take several semi tractor trailers to haul you and your narrow minded thoughts out of Washington.
  
  Us progressives are keeping score....
  
  http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2010/12/01/5559969-gop-to-block-all-bills-until-tax-cuts-are-addressed
  
  
  
  http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101201/ap_on_bi_ge/us_congress_school_nutrition
  
  
  You cannot use the "cost savings" here to give tax breaks to the top 2 percent of wage earners, the very wealthy. They WILL NOT create jobs and with this money, they plan on spending it on THEMSELVES, and not help those that need it the most.
  
  Don't get too comfortable up there in Washington. You're going right back to where you came from.

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  Dec 02, 2010 12:44 AM GMT

  Delusional BS. Polls show self-described liberals at 20%. Your irrelevance will only increase.

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  Dec 02, 2010 12:49 AM GMT

  Republicans are threatening than unless they get their way for tax breaks for the rich, no further votes will be allowed. When push comes to shove they'd look like real assholes if they actually do not allow a vote for the middle class tax breaks, even if its alone, and leave the rich out. We've had ten years of proof that tax breaks primarily for the rich, does not bring about more jobs, nor does it even maintain the jobs we had. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>But frankly, Obama is a weak negotiator with the republicans, he bargains away his "capitol" at the mere mention of their threats. Dems won't stand up and draw a line in the sand, and if they don't get some spine pretty quick, they'll sink themselves. If they stand up for their principles, then they may indeed make the repugs pay for putting the rich first, while cutting off unemployment, and cutting safety nets for the middle class. I wouldn't hold your breath on the dems though !!! I'm so dissappointed with them !!!!!

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  Dec 02, 2010 1:03 AM GMT

  I do truly want to applaud liberals like the OP. You have succeeded much like the Japanese in December of 1941 in waking a sleeping Giant.
  
  The core of the Republican Party is no longer the Religious Right. It is a groundswell of individuals who are just damn tired of the bullshit espoused by folks like the OP.
  
  Go ahead, mouth off. That is your right.
  
  We are not going to let lioberals continue to fuck this nation nor old school conservatives you spend and tax like drunken sailors.

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  Dec 02, 2010 1:06 AM GMT

  conservativejock saidWe are not going to let lioberals continue to fuck this nation nor old school conservatives you spend and tax like drunken sailors.

  
  
  Bad spelling and [bizarrely] mixed metaphors are apparently the hallmark of the right. Interesting.

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  Dec 02, 2010 1:08 AM GMT

  conservativejock saidI do truly want to applaud liberals like the OP. You have succeeded much like the Japanese in December of 1941 in waking a sleeping Giant.
  
  The core of the Republican Party is no longer the Religious Right. It is a groundswell of individuals who are just damn tired of the bullshit espoused by folks like the OP.
  
  Go ahead, mouth off. That is your right.
  
  We are not going to let lioberals continue to fuck this nation nor old school conservatives you spend and tax like drunken sailors.

  
  
  Is that the "sleeping giant" that doesn't want healthcare repealed but left alone of expanded?
  
  Or the one that believe that tax cuts for the rich should be allowed to expire?
  
  Or those that approve of Obama (42%, higher than Clinton or Reagan at this stage in their presidency)?
  
  Or those that want expanded federal aid in creating jobs?
  
  The Tea Party represented only 22% of voters according to exit polls, that is not a "giant." The vast majority of people voted against the party in power due to the economy, stupid, as they have countless times before.
  
  The Republicans will overreach and the swing from 2010 can go back to 2006 easily.

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  Dec 02, 2010 1:52 AM GMT

  conservativejock saidI do truly want to applaud liberals like the OP. You have succeeded much like the Japanese in December of 1941 in waking a sleeping Giant.
  
  The core of the Republican Party is no longer the Religious Right. It is a groundswell of individuals who are just damn tired of the bullshit espoused by folks like the OP.
  
  Go ahead, mouth off. That is your right.
  
  We are not going to let lioberals continue to fuck this nation nor old school conservatives you spend and tax like drunken sailors.

  The 'sleeping giant' you speak of is the American public, who today has begun to admonish this childish behavior on the part of the GOP... no one said the Dem's are getting a break but even the conservative pundits are calling this spade a spade..
  
  The "sleeping giant' said work together with each other, not throw me or my family to the dirt at the behest of 'corporate government'.. and the 'giant' will clean house again in two years...
  The picture is now beginning to become clearly focused..

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  Dec 02, 2010 4:11 AM GMT

  socalfitness saidDelusional BS. Polls show self-described liberals at 20%. Your irrelevance will only increase.

  
  
  You are so full of Rebublican crap. You only care about the very wealthy and don't give a damn about the unemployed who have had their benefits cut off. You are like the rest.....it all has to be about YOU, right?

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  Dec 02, 2010 4:17 AM GMT

  turtleneckjock said

  socalfitness saidDelusional BS. Polls show self-described liberals at 20%. Your irrelevance will only increase.

  
  
  You are so full of Rebublican crap. You only care about the very wealthy and don't give a damn about the unemployed who have had their benefits cut off. You are like the rest.....it all has to be about YOU, right?

  
  
  LOL. It's not a matter of party. The fastest growing political identification is "independent" but when polled they are much more in line as a group with progressive values than conservative.

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  Dec 02, 2010 4:37 AM GMT

  Ever notice how the most staunch RJ republicans are faceless? What, afraid of being outted? Who instilled that fear in you? That's right, your dumb fuckin' religious right-wing loser party.
  

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  Dec 02, 2010 4:38 AM GMT

  turtleneckjock said

  socalfitness saidDelusional BS. Polls show self-described liberals at 20%. Your irrelevance will only increase.

  
  
  You are so full of Rebublican crap. You only care about the very wealthy and don't give a damn about the unemployed who have had their benefits cut off. You are like the rest.....it all has to be about YOU, right?

  
  Nope, you're wrong again. I advocate tax policy to enable jobs, but your policies want to reinforce a welfare state. You and your ilk are on the fringe, where you will unhappily remain. And as the months go by, you will become further unhinged, just as you demonstrate in your hysterical and totally childish response to the funeral picture. Pathetic.

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  Dec 02, 2010 4:49 AM GMT

  
  conservativejock said, "The core of the Republican Party is no longer the Religious Right"
  
  Well let's hope so, though I sincerely doubt it. And what happens there affects us up here, like it or not. We'd rather it didn't but that's the way it is.
  
  
  -Doug
  

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  Dec 02, 2010 4:55 AM GMT

  meninlove said
  conservativejock said, "The core of the Republican Party is no longer the Religious Right"
  
  Well let's hope so, though I sincerely doubt it. And what happens there affects us up here, like it or not. We'd rather it didn't but that's the way it is.
  
  
  -Doug
  

  
  I believe that to also be the case. It does help if there are gays within the Republican ranks to encourage moderation, and that can occur at the grassroots level in addition to making contact with Congressmen and Senators. If all the gays were firmly in the Democratic camp, they would not be in any position to influence the Republicans. So if the liberals here were really more concerned about gay rights than liberalism, they would be encouraging us. But it's not that way, demonstrating many are willing to use the gayness as a lever to further their Democratic goals.

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  Dec 02, 2010 4:58 AM GMT

  socalfitness said

  turtleneckjock said

  socalfitness saidDelusional BS. Polls show self-described liberals at 20%. Your irrelevance will only increase.

  
  
  You are so full of Rebublican crap. You only care about the very wealthy and don't give a damn about the unemployed who have had their benefits cut off. You are like the rest.....it all has to be about YOU, right?

  
  Nope, you're wrong again. I advocate tax policy to enable jobs, but your policies want to reinforce a welfare state. You and your ilk are on the fringe, where you will unhappily remain. And as the months go by, you will become further unhinged, just as you demonstrate in your hysterical and totally childish response to the funeral picture. Pathetic.

  
  
  This post says a lot more about you than about turtleneckjock, Socal.
  
  
  -Doug
  
  PS DOES his thinking advocate a welfare state? Or does it advocate a financial arm reaching into a sea of unemployed people, assisting their existence (important word, that) temporarily while the individual finds work. We're talking existence, your own place, even if its a bachelor suite in a basement and you working two jobs, one a temp at Starbucks' and the other cleaning offices at night. Your take home pay after deductions is 1,200 a month and your rent 700. Your utilities come out of the rest, and your food, and your dental and medical and your transportation. Have I left anything out?
  Survive on that and get back to me.
  
  -Doug

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  Dec 02, 2010 5:23 AM GMT

  meninlove said

  socalfitness said

  turtleneckjock said

  socalfitness saidDelusional BS. Polls show self-described liberals at 20%. Your irrelevance will only increase.

  
  
  You are so full of Rebublican crap. You only care about the very wealthy and don't give a damn about the unemployed who have had their benefits cut off. You are like the rest.....it all has to be about YOU, right?

  
  Nope, you're wrong again. I advocate tax policy to enable jobs, but your policies want to reinforce a welfare state. You and your ilk are on the fringe, where you will unhappily remain. And as the months go by, you will become further unhinged, just as you demonstrate in your hysterical and totally childish response to the funeral picture. Pathetic.

  
  
  This post says a lot more about you than about turtleneckjock, Socal.
  
  
  -Doug
  
  PS DOES his thinking advocate a welfare state? Or does it advocate a financial arm reaching into a sea of unemployed people, assisting their existence (important word, that) temporarily while the individual finds work. We're talking existence, your own place, even if its a bachelor suite in a basement and you working two jobs, one a temp at Starbucks' and the other cleaning offices at night. Your take home pay after deductions is 1,200 a month and your rent 700. Your utilities come out of the rest, and your food, and your dental and medical and your transportation. Have I left anything out?
  Survive on that and get back to me.
  
  -Doug

  
  Damn right, the post does say something about me, and something about your buddy as well. I advocate both benefits to help out in the immediate timeframe, as well as helping to create an environment where better jobs are available. As far as the compassion angle is concerned, many liberals tout that because they are in such low tax brackets, they don't pay much anyway, just lip service. I know many conservatives, including a few on RJ who give more to various charities than some of the liberals make on an annual basis.

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  Dec 02, 2010 5:29 AM GMT

  I think GOProud and the Log Cabin-ers deserve a place in the Republican party. Life is diversity. I think, though, it foolish of them to think or entertain the idea of acceptance yet, or that the Party simply doesn't care, (which is nearly as bad, considering the state of equal rights in a free country). They have the toughest audience to play to.
  
  -Doug

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  Dec 02, 2010 5:36 AM GMT

  "As far as the compassion angle is concerned, many liberals tout that because they are in such low tax brackets, they don't pay much anyway, just lip service."
  
  Whereas I know many many liberals who are wealthy, philanthropists; as best they can reasonably afford, and have a great deal of concern over gov't size and spending. So your point is what, other than a smear?
  
  -Doug
  
  

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  meninlove said "As far as the compassion angle is concerned, many liberals tout that because they are in such low tax brackets, they don't pay much anyway, just lip service."
  
  Whereas I know many many liberals who are wealthy, philanthropists; as best they can reasonably afford, and have a great deal of concern over gov't size and spending. So your point is what, other than a smear?
  
  -Doug
  
  

  
  Yes, there certainly are wealthy liberals who are philanthropists, no question about it. But many who are not play the compassion card, acting totally self-righteous, but not ultimately paying much at all. I know that applies to some on RJ. And as I said, some who have been the target of the "you are not compassionate, just after the money" are the most generous, but they won't mention that.

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  Dec 02, 2010 5:49 AM GMT

  "And as I said, some who have been the target of the "you are not compassionate, just after the money" are the most generous, but they won't mention that. "
  
  That's interesting, and an old axiom my grandmother espoused. The magnanimous shrouded in secrecy, which I think does no one any good.
  I say this because without examples, living examples, people can't see that it's even occurring, which is the very inspiration that motivates them to do the same.
  
  Grannie painted it as vanity, I decided it was about setting an example instead. So I applaud anyone that does it ( being a philanthropist monetarily), but no one can if they hide in an odd modesty that thwarts the benefits of motivating examples.
  
  -Doug

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  Dec 02, 2010 5:53 AM GMT

  meninlove said "And as I said, some who have been the target of the "you are not compassionate, just after the money" are the most generous, but they won't mention that. "
  
  That's interesting, and an old axiom my grandmother espoused. The magnanimous shrouded in secrecy, which I think does no one any good.
  I say this because without examples, living examples, people can't see that it's even occurring, which is the very inspiration that motivates them to do the same.
  
  Grannie painted it as vanity, I decided it was about setting an example instead. So I applaud anyone that does it ( being a philanthropist monetarily), but no one can if they hide in an odd modesty that thwarts the benefits of motivating examples.
  
  -Doug

  
  The guys I am referring to do motivate in their communities by setting an example, but choose to not say anything on RJ where it would likely be doubted and perceived as bragging.

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  Dec 02, 2010 6:04 AM GMT

  
  
  ..and I'll sign off this topic, remembering 98 people in Arizona, and how some here responded to their plight.
  
  -Doug

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  conservativejock saidWe are not going to let lioberals continue to fuck this nation nor old school conservatives you spend and tax like drunken sailors.

  
  
  Bad spelling and [bizarrely] mixed metaphors are apparently the hallmark of the right. Interesting.

  
  
  Bad rugs too. See "SB".

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  meninlove said I think GOProud and the Log Cabin-ers deserve a place in the Republican party. ...

  
  
  Where? On the porch?

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  Dec 05, 2010 1:41 PM GMT

  Should we look at how in many ways the alleged progressives in many ways have made things worse. Change is not always for the better.

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  Dec 05, 2010 1:54 PM GMT

  The ONLY way the republicans have a chance at NOT being decimated in 2012
  ........ Is IF the democrats cave and give into their demands
  
  But if the democrats stand tall and NOT give into their ridiculous ....so called remedies
  
  They will be called out for the obstructionist economic disaster they really are

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