Do Zionist groups place plants in the US, such as in AIPAC

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  Dec 06, 2010 5:25 PM GMT

  I have to wonder if the Zionists are a group so fanatical that they would place plants in the US, such as in the American Israeli Public Affairs Committee? (Perhaps that organizations whole purpose is to forward Zionist goals.) Are the primary leaders of this committee made up of Zionists ? Do the Zionists place plants out in the US population specifically to influence public opinion, to make accusations against any officials who dares to speak against Israeli actions ? It would seem to me that our Government leaders are for all intents and purposes, afraid of crossing this group. I am of the opinion that they have gained so much strength and become so fanatical in their efforts that they are self defeating. Does anyone have some facts in answer to these questions ?

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  Dec 06, 2010 11:24 PM GMT

  Well SB, some are fanatical, and it seems to me that its anything but patriotic, to allow any group to so infiltrate our government as to control a large portion of our foreign policy. I understand that particularly during the 2008 political period that there was above normal concern over consulting the backing of AIPAC, Again, we can follow the money!!!!, and if Zionist issues are one and the same interests as AIPAC, then the money our country sends them, (Israel) it appears, gets sent back to use against our own interests. Unless I'm wrong, its not in our best interests to bow down and go along with all of AIPAC's agenda, especially if its a mirror of Zionist agenda. I'd sure like to hear more about this.

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  Dec 08, 2010 7:40 AM GMT

  Are you on crack ?
  
  

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  Dec 08, 2010 3:51 PM GMT

  Not crack, just high on HATE.
  
  You can see the tell-tale signs of racism, too: Zionists are the unitary "them", one big evil group with one "Zionist agenda"... just as hateful homophobes say about homosexuals and the "homosexual agenda".

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  Dec 08, 2010 5:19 PM GMT

  Caesarea4 saidNot crack, just high on HATE.
  
  You can see the tell-tale signs of racism, too: Zionists are the unitary "them", one big evil group with one "Zionist agenda"... just as hateful homophobes say about homosexuals and the "homosexual agenda".

  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Yelling hate and racism won't work here, I don't hate you, you could be from a race of purple people eaters as far as I'm concerned and I have yet to read or hear from anyone saying they hate you, So that cover of Zionsits won't work here. Now please do tell us, What is your relationship to Zionists ?? Are you one ?? Is it true as I've read that Zionists Plant people in strategic government places and so on, to influence US populations to agree with Zionist goals ? Isn't it true that one of the primary methods of Zionists is to accuse anyone calling out Israel of Antisemitism, and Hate ? Answer these questions, your silence makes you appear guilty !!!

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  Dec 08, 2010 5:28 PM GMT

  sxydrkhair, thanks a lot of that video, that has some startling facts in it and I dare anyone to prove it wrong by much. Hell of it is that that very money we send to them gets turned around and spent on AIPAC lobbyists in our halls of congress to influence politicians to vote their way and often against our own interests in peace efforts. This is totally disgusting !!! and not its not hate speach or anti semitic to point out these truths.

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  Dec 08, 2010 5:28 PM GMT

  I will only post in this thread that I have indeed lived there (outside of a military/government role)........... but will refrain from my experiences. Politically it could be explosive within this forum group.

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  Dec 08, 2010 6:35 PM GMT

  realifedad> I don't hate you....
  
  Riiight. You just hate Zionism, the "sin", not the individual?
  You've only been bullying me in numerous forum topics for 2 weeks for a reason other than hate?
  
  
  realifedad> your silence makes you appear guilty !!!
  
  Only someone consumed by hate would assume that one is guilty unless proven innocent.
  But, one must ask, "guilty" of what?!
  
  
  As if realifedad's screed needs to be explicitly parodied:
  (Strange formatting and errors in lunatic original.)
  
  

  Now please do tell us, What is your relationship to Homosexuals ?? Are you one ?? Is it true as I've read that Homosexuals Plant people in strategic government places and so on, to influence US populations to agree with Homosexual agenda ? Isn't it true that one of the primary methods of Homosexuals is to accuse anyone Homophobia and Hate ? Answer these questions, your silence makes you appear guilty !!!

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  Dec 08, 2010 6:44 PM GMT

  Ceaserea4, your just dodging, just answer, are you a Zionist ? Is this Zionist membership why your so fanatic about the Zionist cause always being right? So just answer !!!

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  Dec 08, 2010 6:56 PM GMT

  Duh.
  
  It's because I get a toaster oven (autographed not just by Ellen but also by Einstein!) every time I sign-up someone to a "membership".
  

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  Dec 08, 2010 7:02 PM GMT

  Answer the questions !!! What are you afraid of ??

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  Dec 10, 2010 2:22 AM GMT

  If C4 is a plant, then so are a lot of other RJers on both sides of the issue with what can be interpreted as a fanatical interest in all things Israeli and Palestinian. It could even be argued that some of the anti-Israel posters are Israeli plants!

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  eagermuscle saidIf C4 is a plant, then so are a lot of other RJers on both sides of the issue with what can be interpreted as a fanatical interest in all things Israeli and Palestinian. It could even be argued that some of the anti-Israel posters are Israeli plants!

  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I'm particularly interested in what your thinking when writing the last sentence above, do you mind explaining ?

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  Dec 10, 2010 2:44 AM GMT

  I believe that some pro-Palestinian RJ members are reflecting poorly on the Palestinians and doing them a disservice with their posts. This is a subjective opinion so there's no point in naming names; readers can draw their own conclusions.

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  Dec 10, 2010 2:48 AM GMT

  sxydrkhair saidInteresting video you guys might want to watch.
  

  
  
  Not a fan of US foreign policy in Israel But the Video cites Noam Chomsky , who really holds no weight in any real debate. He is not just Anti-Israel, he is a communist/anarchist.

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  Dec 10, 2010 3:00 AM GMT

  Do you have proof that Chomski is anti Israel, Communist/anarchist ? I'm interested because he is quite often quoted, and I like to be informed.

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  Dec 11, 2010 9:12 PM GMT

  musclmed said
  Not a fan of US foreign policy in Israel But the Video cites Noam Chomsky , who really holds no weight in any real debate. He is not just Anti-Israel, he is a communist/anarchist.

  
  
  So McCarthyism is not dead, after all. Noam's a commie! Chomsky's a Red! If you read one of his books, you'll instantly turn into a zombie!
  
  Name calling and vilification, without any evidence, is not a legitimate debating technique. It’s Hasbara. Chomsky has spent most of his career as a respected professor of linguistics at M.I.T.
  
  The New York Times has called Chomsky one of the greatest living intellectuals, but for you, he holds no weight in any real debate.
  
  Not only is Chomsky Jewish, but he spent time in Israel, living on a kibbutz.
  
  Chomsky evokes such intense hate because he dares to speak the truth, about Israel, and about the United States. That is why the New York Times can call him one of the greatest living intellectuals, but will ignore him as much as possible and, except for one instance, the NYT has never printed anything he writes.
  
  If you are a Zionist fanatic like c4, nothing I say will make any difference to you. But on the slight chance you have an open mind, try reading Chomsky's book, "The Fateful Triangle," about the 1982 Israeli invasion of Lebanon, and the massacres at the Sabra and Shatila refugee camps in Beirut; and see if you still believe in the IDF's "purity of arms."
  
  see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noam_Chomsky

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