The New iPad

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    Mar 17, 2012 2:48 PM GMT
    'This American Life' retracts damning report on Apple manufacturer Foxconn

    Looks like much of the criticism of Apple manufacturing practices is BS. Coming mostly from the US Right Wing, because Apple has been a supporter of gay rights and other liberal causes.

    http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/16/10720955-this-american-life-retracts-damning-report-on-apple-manufacturer-foxconn

    Nice if we could stay on track with a technical discussion of the iPad, and not get derailed into political & personal agendas & vendettas. But the usual thread hijackers will try. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Mar 17, 2012 4:23 PM GMT
    http://www.slashgear.com/apple-faces-4g-ipad-backlash-17218896/

    Apple faces 4G iPad backlash

    Apple is seeing branding push-back from carriers outside of North America, over concerns that branding the new iPad as 4G-compatible is confusing consumers, and potentially inviting a regulatory spanking. Although international new iPad models are described as “WiFi + 4G”, the LTE support in the third-gen tablet is only, in fact, compatible with the bands in use by either AT&T or Verizon Wireless in the US. European carriers are reportedly complaining to Apple that its advertising is misleading.

    Australian carriers Telstra and Optus intend to minimize the use of 4G branding, The Australian reports, with Optus believed to be banishing the term altogether. “We’re making it clear to our customers that new iPad does not run on 4G LTE networks in Australia” a Telstra spokesperson said. Meanwhile, European carrier sources suggest similar concerns have been widespread.

    Although multiple European carriers plan – or already have operational – LTE networks of their own, the bands supported in the new iPad are not compatible with the spectrum licensed for LTE use outside of North America. That means, even when the LTE networks become widespread, the current new iPad hardware simply won’t work with them.

    The concern now is that Apple might fall foul of European Commission criticism around the implications of the connectivity in the new iPad. An exact definition of 4G has been somewhat muddied by carriers branding HSPA+ and DC-HSDPA networks – which offer download speeds of up to 42Mbps theoretically, faster than traditional 3G but still behind LTE’s potential rates – as “4G” networks, usually for marketing purposes.
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    Mar 18, 2012 1:15 AM GMT
    socalfitness saidhttp://www.slashgear.com/apple-faces-4g-ipad-backlash-17218896/

    Apple faces 4G iPad backlash
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    LTE in Europe's PCS spectrum? THEY DID WHAT?

    See, this is what happens when you let selfish European telecom conglomerates invade your sovereign and valuable spectrum. They will selfishly wrap it around a telephone pole after what resembles a night of binge-drinking and roofies. Now that they have run out of new opportunities, they(Siemens, Nokia, Ericsson) are stuck with warehouses full of last-years infastructure and handsets looking for new homes.

    http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2012/03/australian-4g-frequencies-explained/ Let Telstra masturbate by itself off in a corner somewhere and hope you can convince Vodaphone to deploy LTE at 750mHz after moving TV out of that spectrum (UHF channel 52-69).
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    Mar 18, 2012 1:32 AM GMT
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    Uh..... retracting a report does not mean that Apple has not offshored tens of thousands of U.S. manufacturing jobs to Chinese sweatshops.

    Dude, this isn't a 787. No one assembles handsets in the US anymore. Not even Motorola. And, I'm highly confident Apple has never assembled iPods or iPhones of any generation here in the states.

    God forbid you'd actually wonder about the conditions your tennis shoes are made in.
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    Mar 18, 2012 1:43 AM GMT
    The issue with Apple was advertising the device as 4G outside North America. Given the relative sparseness of LTE outside NA, even Europe, was probably appropriate for Apple to not include those bands at present. Following doesn't show the LTE bands, but indicates the sparseness of LTE implementations: http://www.worldtimezone.com/gsm.html

    Couple of interesting articles:
    http://www.fiercewireless.com/europe/story/apples-new-ipad-fails-support-european-lte-frequencies/2012-03-14
    http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/t-mobiles-ray-upside-lte-advanced-and-whether-they-will-call-lte-5g/2012-03-14
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    Mar 18, 2012 1:56 AM GMT
    socalfitness saidThe issue with Apple was advertising the device as 4G outside North America. Given the relative sparseness of LTE outside NA, even Europe, was probably appropriate for Apple to not include those bands at present. Following doesn't show the LTE bands, but indicates the sparseness of LTE implementations: http://www.worldtimezone.com/gsm.html

    Couple of interesting articles:
    http://www.fiercewireless.com/europe/story/apples-new-ipad-fails-support-european-lte-frequencies/2012-03-14
    http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/t-mobiles-ray-upside-lte-advanced-and-whether-they-will-call-lte-5g/2012-03-14


    Too strange. Telstra is going alone at 1.8gHz LTE? Oops..

    Operators in Finland, Germany, Portugal and Sweden are now offering LTE services and European regulators have assigned 800MHz and 2.6GHz for LTE use. The 700MHz band is currently still assigned for TV broadcasts in Europe, and the 2.1GHz band remains in use for 3G services. Any attempts to use these bands for LTE is seen as unlikely before 2016.

    2.6Ghz will be unfortunate as WiFi at 2.4ghz and above has terrible penetration of building walls and weather precipitation compared to Verizon's choice of 750mHz. Edit: had a senior moment. 800mHz is new. I forgot that GSM in Europe is at 900mHz. 800mHz in the US. Sorry.

    The risk for EU consumers is their new LTE spectrum will be different from the US and require extra parts in the handset. If the two choices are close in frequency, existing chips could just tune to it. But, there are filters involved that limit the frequency range.

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    Mar 19, 2012 3:32 AM GMT
    Here's a crazy funny German iPad skit from TV.

    You don't need to speak German to get the humor.

    http://www.wimp.com/dadipad/
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    Mar 19, 2012 3:51 AM GMT
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    mikeeugene saidHere's a crazy funny German iPad skit from TV.

    You don't need to speak German to get the humor.

    http://www.wimp.com/dadipad/

    LOL... that was great!
    Yeah, it was funny until he put it in the dishwasher, then it was hilarious.
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    Mar 19, 2012 4:04 AM GMT
    I haven't bought one yet and think I may finally cave. I was waiting for one with a camera and a Retina display plus I got a nice tax return. Hurray for overpaying on my taxes! Ha ha ha.
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    Mar 20, 2012 6:32 AM GMT
    Just never give an iPad to your parents...

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    Mar 20, 2012 6:44 AM GMT
    Tablets. Meh, I'll never get the hype.
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    Mar 20, 2012 7:23 AM GMT
    I've got an iPad 3 too never had an iPad before and I really like it and hardly using my old laptop haven't been on it for a while. I used to be addicted to my iPhone 4S now I'm used to this more. Again with the iPhone the first ever was the iPhone 3GS then iPhone 4 didn't have money for that so when the iPhone 4S came out then sold my 3GS to get it. I must say the quality is excellent on this iPad 3 the screen is amazing too. The reason I got an iPad is because I've always wanted one and been recommended as its way better then a laptop. My limit was £500 to spend on either a laptop/pc or iPad. I'm happy with the decision I made I must say the camera and video 5MP (front) its not wow and the front camera is ok VGA wish they came with a better one.

    I have got the iPad 3 16GB Wifi and 4G (3G version) The price was £499
    For the 16GB wifi only £399 and 32GB wifi and 4G Was £479

    Wish I could have got the 32GB wifi and 4G for £499 but that was £599

    I got the 4G version with wifi because there isnt wifi areas all over and when you happen to be in the middle of nowhere then the 4G will help if no wifi available. Hope 16GB is gonna last me got 10GB left hehe as it only gives you 13.6GB out of 16GB same with the 32GB you only get 29GB
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    Mar 29, 2012 1:54 AM GMT
    I gave in and finally bought one; it arrives tomorrow. Sorta wishing I got the 4G model but we'll see. If only you could use flash based that on it so i could go into the RJ chat room! Ugh.