msuNtx said: the real reason(s) un-empoyment is where its at, for all ethnic groups, is that techology has replaced jobs, and jobs have moved outside the United States as corporations chase profit with little or no loyalty to America. There are simply fewer jobs that pay at a level that support a family, and allow them to have some measure of disposable income that is discretionary, which supports other jobs, through discretionary purchases and services rendered.
while there are democrats who have voted along with republicans who favor corporate profit over what is best for our nation, it is the republican party that is now a wholly owned subsidiary of corproate agenda(s) that is responsible for the un-employment rate. they are returning us to a time of the early 1930's, abundant cheap labor, less and less union power, less and less environmental and worker safety protection.
again, there are democrats who have sold their souls alongside their republican brethren, but make no mistake, the GOP is nothing like the party of Eisenhower, who put nation above profit, or Nixon, who started the EPA. the current republican party is nothing more than a beard, their agenda is profit above all. what is amazing, is how they have become masters of deceit and manipulation, getting people to vote against their best interests.
look at the influence the new republicans have purchased in all levels of government, legislative and judicial, and now they seek the capstone, the presidency. look at thow they have used parlimentary procedures at unprecidented levels to obstruct the current government during a time of national economic crisis, that they themselves are largely responsible for causing.
remember how things were in january of 2001? a balanced budget, a deficit of just over $5 trillion, no wars. low un-employment. now, factor in ignoring national threat assesments in august of 2001, which lead to a terrorist attack, which lead to 2 unfunded wars that we are still fighting/spending on. a complete dis-interst in financial reform, which in fact is a desire to completely de-regulate to make for more profit, along with a tax plan that benefits corporations to move ouside the country, while lowering the capital gains tax, and top tax rates, which simply further fuels investment outside the United States.
the rich aren't the rich anymore, they are the "job creators", they have enjoyed some of the lowest tax rates in our nations history for over 12 years now, and yet look at the un-employment rates, if they are the job creators, where are the jobs being created?
mustangd said: ++++++1,000,000. Technology and shipping jobs overseas are the biggest issues. A computer can do what a normal 5 people do.
riddler78 said: "Computers didn't get invented under the Obama Administration - and unemployment under Bush and Clinton were at historical lows. This logic doesn't fit. Think of all the new industries that have been created that didn't exist before - say 40 years ago.
Further shipping jobs overseas? Same issues in logic given that trade has been increasing. No, these are both shifts that allow economies to further specialize and do what they do best/better. If you want to keep lower paying jobs and make an economy less efficient, fine, ban technology and trade. But if you want to create a sustainable economy, you should be encouraging both."
These latter assertions are simply ridiculous. Particularly bad policies have been in place in this country since roughly 1965. Those were identified as bad policies then, too, but BOTH the Democrats and what then were Republicans jumped on the bandwagon as all this being "progress" with all this cant typified by sayings such as "allowing economies to do what they do best". It was nonsense then; it is nonsense now. It was entirely predictable THEN that the horrible economic situation which exists today would be the result of the plethora of bad policies over the years in government, industry, and education. These political and business idiots over the years seem never to have heard of unintended consequences.
For those of you much younger, it might interest you to know that America used to function and function better than any place else in the world. Alas, those days are long gone. The overall quality of lives for a decided plurality if not majority of the people in this country has declined today over what it was a half century ago for similarly situated people.
And if one wants to place blame on the political parties, there is certainly enough to go around. Any number of Democratic supported policies have gone awry, and as for the Republicans, there simply ARE very few Republicans any more--they have morphed into Religicans who are mainly interested in others' bedroom practices and various other misguided ideas. I'm sure there are a few closet Republicans out there, but they are certainly not evident in the current political climate.
The single biggest disaster to the United States has probably been the systematic dismantling of the American industrial base. Congress and the various administrations have been complicit by providing advantageous tax policies encouraging the loss of American jobs. And guess who was one of the major business players in all this -- Walmart and the Walton family and their financing of the industrialization overseas at the expense of America's economy.
These problems have developed over decades and their amelioration will likewise take decades. The current partisan political bickering between the two major political parties is doing nothing to improve the situation either, even if one could decide on a course of action which would bring improvement long term.