To the fathers here at RJ with more than one child.

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    Jun 16, 2012 8:37 PM GMT
    tru_blu_auzzie said
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    The OP asked a valid and thought-provoking question.

    Now you're trolling, Todd. You know damn well Sybil just posted this so she could go off on one of her patented harangues. There's no hypocrisy in pointing that out.


    Well from you it's full of it. Lets not overlook you are one of the main haters here at RJ, it's you who start with most of the attacking here at RJ and people talk back to you because you are pure evil, and you do your best to bring out the bad in others just so you can justify your hate, nothing is ever to low for you in you hate and abuse of others. No it's you who is really the troll, but you need to hang with the pack of liberal hens to feel you are not on your own as bullies don't have the balls to stand on their own. I'm sure if I got to spend 10 minutes with you I would walk away from a silent shaking coward,, pissing myself laughing.


    PS JP the Bitch suits you better, because you truly are a bitch. Cranky, no your just embittered, from a rotting sole from years of hate and unhappiness, now you need to infect others who behold a happiness you never beheld, and your not a badass as you are simply just evil; now if you want to see badarse come up and see me sometime.
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    Jun 16, 2012 8:40 PM GMT
    tru_blu_auzzie saidPS JP the Bitch suits you better, because you truly are a bitch. Cranky, no your just embittered, from a rotting sole from years of hate and unhappiness, now you need to infect others who behold a happiness you never beheld.


    A cobbler can probably fix that.
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    Jun 16, 2012 8:42 PM GMT
    Larkin said513.jpg


    You know thats were that haters want it to go, as they need to promote all negative things for all conservatives, and gay/bi conservative fathers would have a lot to answer to; overlooking their own sins and failures too. But thats alright I get to talk about such things out in the real world all the time, I can add my own thoughts on bisexual men and fatherhood; and I have met one fantastic father here at RJ already.
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    Jun 16, 2012 8:47 PM GMT
    Larkin said
    tru_blu_auzzie saidPS JP the Bitch suits you better, because you truly are a bitch. Cranky, no your just embittered, from a rotting sole from years of hate and unhappiness, now you need to infect others who behold a happiness you never beheld.


    A cobbler can probably fix that.


    Larkin, you are priceless! Love you!!

    I want to take a moment to recognize an RJ dad with more than one child, Hoosier_Daddy.

    Once in a while you will see him in the forums posting and we exchange e-mails once in a while ourselves. In his e-mails, he mentions the time he spends with his children and how one is heading to college soon.

    It's nice to chat with guys that don't have agendas and pick on people because they don't understand them, or because they are different than they are. Hoosier_Daddy is a truly nice guy and someone I love to hear from when the evil and nasty go over the edge. He brings me back to the important things in this world. Besides, he's from my home state of Indiana, so he's the best!!
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    Jun 16, 2012 8:50 PM GMT
    Larkin said
    tru_blu_auzzie saidPS JP the Bitch suits you better, because you truly are a bitch. Cranky, no your just embittered, from a rotting sole from years of hate and unhappiness, now you need to infect others who behold a happiness you never beheld.


    A cobbler can probably fix that.


    Giggles. One can be forgiven, it not 0700 yet, and I'm still having my morning coffee, on a half day off, since worse sins have been forgiven and over looked here at RJ.

    But many parents do have children they faviour over others. I ponder how many bisexual fathers must have to deal with coming out and 1,2 or even 3 of their children rejecting them. I ponder how those that have just walk away from humans they created, turn their back on them walk away to live life as a gay man. But I also know not all do.
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    Jun 16, 2012 8:51 PM GMT
    tru_blu_auzzie said
    tru_blu_auzzie said
    CrankyMcBadass said
    CuriousJockAZ said
    The OP asked a valid and thought-provoking question.

    Now you're trolling, Todd. You know damn well Sybil just posted this so she could go off on one of her patented harangues. There's no hypocrisy in pointing that out.


    Well from you it's full of it. Lets not overlook you are one of the main haters here at RJ, it's you who start with most of the attacking here at RJ and people talk back to you because you are pure evil, and you do your best to bring out the bad in others just so you can justify your hate, nothing is ever to low for you in you hate and abuse of others. No it's you who is really the troll, but you need to hang with the pack of liberal hens to feel you are not on your own as bullies don't have the balls to stand on their own. I'm sure if I got to spend 10 minutes with you I would walk away from a silent shaking coward,, pissing myself laughing.


    PS JP the Bitch suits you better, because you truly are a bitch. Cranky, no your just embittered, from a rotting sole from years of hate and unhappiness, now you need to infect others who behold a happiness you never beheld, and your not a badass as you are simply just evil; now if you want to see badarse come up and see me sometime.


    Is not true. The sweetest guy.........icon_wink.gif
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    Jun 16, 2012 8:53 PM GMT
    turtleneckjock saidLarkin, you are priceless! Love you!!

    In other words "Please vote for me for MOTD today. Please, Please."
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    Jun 16, 2012 9:05 PM GMT
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    turtleneckjock saidLarkin, you are priceless! Love you!!

    In other words "Please vote for me for MOTD today. Please, Please."


    Nope. You hit another foul ball. Larkin has one of the sharpest and quickest comical minds on RJ. He never fails to make me laugh and my remark was praise to him.

    On the other hand, you had to take a cheap shot and it makes you look bad for doing so.
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    Jun 16, 2012 9:14 PM GMT
    NONONOYES. Thank you for your deep truthful reply. But even though you never thought you would never be married with kids you were playing with the fire to get burnt. I myself always knew I would never be a father. Now I am 50 I may well be receiving the benefits as my life is in a contented place, with little regrets to look back on, because my life has always been my own; fatherhood never took that away.

    But we don't all get to be my age with the same blessings, or the contentment in life, because we can not go back and change things.

    You are lucky, your four children embraced you after you were truthful with them, many are not so lucky, as their own past actions may of created that, as they may of needed to show compassion, understanding or even just acceptance when they did not; thus it come back to bite them on the bum when they come out Per se. If my Pa even come out for swinging both ways, I may well of beaten the shite out of him, I certainly may well of at least walked away laughing at him; all because of his past actions. My Pa also got told: you made your bed now lay in it; how my Pa's pride got in the way of many things.

    But I look back at my parents now, and see many things. I am so grateful I never had any children, for when I was younger being a gay man was the most important thing in my life, and it would of come before my child. Were others here pride, want of acceptance and advancement would of come first. Now I would make a great father as my sexuality is just a part of me and does not define me as a whole, as I am now also able to see many other aspects about me and I'm not just a poofter;; a Bona Fide Homosexual. I am also one of the good guys in the community; I work and live.

    I have and still do work with youth and children, well in fact people of all ages. But we can not like them all the same. So I accept them for their differences, and I have many great professional working relationships with people from all walks of life. It's what I would like to apply to parenthood, if I had kids; as you did, and now you receive the rewards; be blessed.

    But sadly many parents take the easy way out and dismiss the children they like least, and give 100% to those they have bonded with.
    I feel the actions and reactions of parents who have lived and been seen as straight people in a hetrosexual relationship while their children were growing up. Then one day want to bee seen as gay men in a homosexual relationship, must be devastating for many children, and these children do not always embrace their parents lifestyle choice. Thus the parent rejects that person they created and the situation too.

    How must they feel if it was a child they full loved, yet the one they rejected supported them?

    I ponder.
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    Jun 17, 2012 2:00 AM GMT
    But then any man can be a father, yet it takes someone special to be a dad.
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    Jun 17, 2012 2:06 AM GMT
    I had to see this forum... its amazing to see how many guys in here are parents and I that makes me feel so relieved...
    I'm only 22 years old but i hope i come back home to my better half and children. This sounds like a very distant dream but yeah... It would be a dream come true icon_smile.gif
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    Jun 17, 2012 2:07 AM GMT
    Larkin said

    A cobbler can probably fix that.


    A cobbler fixes everything =o~~~

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    Jun 19, 2012 6:47 PM GMT
    This is a beautiful topic i must say icon_smile.gif
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    Jun 19, 2012 7:16 PM GMT
    this is an odd thread. i have 2 children. i was going to say a boy and a girl,but they are in their 20s so a man and a woman. i love them equally but have very different relationships with them. both are the most supportive people in my life.
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    Jun 20, 2012 1:53 AM GMT
    tru_blu_auzzie saidNONONOYES. Thank you for your deep truthful reply. But even though you never thought you would never be married with kids you were playing with the fire to get burnt. I myself always knew I would never be a father. Now I am 50 I may well be receiving the benefits as my life is in a contented place, with little regrets to look back on, because my life has always been my own; fatherhood never took that away. I won't say that when I first found out I wasn't thinking my life was over. But then, something else happened. Crazy as it sounds it was knowing I had this little human on the way who was going to need me, it changed everything about how I viewed my life. I suddenly had a reason not only to stay, but to succeed. I had this little person coming who was going to need my love, guidance and example.

    But we don't all get to be my age with the same blessings, or the contentment in life, because we can not go back and change things.

    You are lucky, your four children embraced you after you were truthful with them, many are not so lucky, as their own past actions may of created that, as they may of needed to show compassion, understanding or even just acceptance when they did not; thus it come back to bite them on the bum when they come out Per se. If my Pa even come out for swinging both ways, I may well of beaten the shite out of him, I certainly may well of at least walked away laughing at him; all because of his past actions. My Pa also got told: you made your bed now lay in it; how my Pa's pride got in the way of many things. Even though I never expected to live this part of my life, I raised my children to be respectful and accepting of others, that bullying and denigrating were tools used by the ignorant. They had a great core of friends all the way through school, every color, shape, sexual persuasion and size. The thing that stood out most upon coming out.. I didn't have to explain why I did what I did, they knew.

    But I look back at my parents now, and see many things. I am so grateful I never had any children, for when I was younger being a gay man was the most important thing in my life, and it would of come before my child. Were others here pride, want of acceptance and advancement would of come first. Now I would make a great father as my sexuality is just a part of me and does not define me as a whole, as I am now also able to see many other aspects about me and I'm not just a poofter;; a Bona Fide Homosexual. I am also one of the good guys in the community; I work and live. You know, there are many ways to become a parent. Good foster homes are in short supply, while these kids do sometimes have special needs, I can't think of a more worth while thing. I have actually thought about doing it myself once my Daughter is done with college. There is also adoption, and it is becoming more and more common.
    I have and still do work with youth and children, well in fact people of all ages. But we can not like them all the same. So I accept them for their differences, and I have many great professional working relationships with people from all walks of life. It's what I would like to apply to parenthood, if I had kids; as you did, and now you receive the rewards; be blessed. Your right about being blessed. Much as the responsibility is enormous, the rewards are just as huge, and constant. I remember a day, I must have been around 26. I had the day from hell.Laid off from my job, fought with my X, the bills were due - she had blown all my money, just a rotten day. He was 5 at the time, and while coming back from filing unemployment my car broke down. I called a friend to come and get us, we sat down on the grass.. he looked up at me, put his arms round my neck and gave me the biggest hug.. "It's ok Dad, we'll be fine." Shutup. Of course I cried.

    But sadly many parents take the easy way out and dismiss the children they like least, and give 100% to those they have bonded with.
    I feel the actions and reactions of parents who have lived and been seen as straight people in a hetrosexual relationship while their children were growing up. Then one day want to bee seen as gay men in a homosexual relationship, must be devastating for many children, and these children do not always embrace their parents lifestyle choice. Thus the parent rejects that person they created and the situation too. I have seen this happen, not so much because the children hadn't accepted it, but didn't want to be left with sitters for 90% of the weekend that the "parent" was supposed to be spending with them. Now in their teens, these kids have mended fences with some of the guys. There are big obstacles for single parents on both sides. I do see in straight friends as well that in divorce they feel the parenting is no longer "their problem". As if because they are not the primary custodial parent the responsibility is no longer theirs. I had custody, the roles were totally reversed. My x wandered off with her bf, and didn't as much as talk to my daughter unless she was pumping her for info. Sadly for my x, my daughter has no relationship, and does not care to. I did make many attempts to fix that before realising it was not my place, that this woman had wronged her and betrayed her as badly as she had me.

    How must they feel if it was a child they full loved, yet the one they rejected supported them? A little confused with the wording here.

    I ponder.

    I can tell you there are as many variations of parenthood as there are sets of DNA, fingerprints, grains of sand in the ocean. I doubt that any 2 are identical, parental relationships are complex x Infinity.
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    tru_blu_auzzie saidDo you love one more than the other?

    If so do they know this?
    What a stupid question.. are you gonna rant about how they aren't "bona fide homosexuals"????????

    Go get another bottle to polish off!





    What a hypocrite you are....

    TropicalMark saidIf you idiots cannot stand Art or his posts.. then grow the fuck up and move onto something else.
    The 5 yr old mentality is disgusting and embarrassing to your generation.
    You ignore my posts.. why cant you ignore others that you 'hate' to read?icon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gif


    The OP asked a valid and thought-provoking question.
    Tropical Mark was one of the.more hateful and disturbing Henchmen assosiated with Fart. He got banned for making death threats here. Fitting who he sided with.
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    Jun 05, 2019 1:02 AM GMT
    Well I was never a mummies boy