How do you guys react towards hiphop guys?

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    Jun 11, 2012 2:28 PM GMT
    xrichx saidHip hop hooray..

    It's always amusing to see profiles where guys say they love all types of music.. except rap (hip hop) and country.


    Sorry, but if my profile said anything, it might say that. We also don't like heavy metal but we don't put that in our profiles, not that we're ashamed, just that the mention doesn't seem necessary.

    Actually I've heard some rap that I think is very good and those songs (though I couldn't name them) I like. But I find most of it sounds too much like the rest of it, even more so than what I refer to as formula rock** and so while I can enjoy listening to a song of it now and then, a few in a row would bug me.

    I actually prefer listening to a wide range of music rather than any particular genre, possibly for this very reason. So I listen to a lot of international stuff, old stuff, classical stuff, broadway stuff, all mixed in with the modern western stuff.

    A musical award winning friend of mine since childhood, (her stepdad wrote one of my favorite songs "He Ain't Heavy, He's My Brother") is a wonderfully talented musician (piano and guitar)/composer/lyricist who has written some easy listening which I completely adore but she's turned to country, which, while I know listening to it that it is technically good, I don't enjoy. That makes it tough to compliment one of her songs "Well, I don't like it at all, but it's very good."

    The same for rap, The same for metal. the same for some of the conversation I see on this forum. A lot of it is just the same ol' stuff being rehashed over and over again. I get that a lot of life is just more of the same but listening to rap for me is like listening to the icecream truck coming by everyday. And I swear I'm gonna sue that bastard for torturing his listening public..

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    Jun 11, 2012 2:42 PM GMT
    Dj1990 saidI find hip hop very annoying and I generally try to avoid anyone who listens to it.


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    Jun 11, 2012 3:00 PM GMT
    Truppensturm saidYou'd be surprised to see how many guys here are into hip hop. I expected little response to my heavy metal thread, but the contrary was true. As for clothing; who cares. I often wear my patched leather jacket or bandshirts as well, although mostly just for gigs/festivals. For me it's a way of supporting the bands. Having said that, 90% of the posters here still have a major boner for Britney Spears or Madonna, so don't expect too much icon_lol.gif (and no, there's nothing wrong with that. Each to their own)


    You'd be further surprised to learn how many guys here are into Britney/Madonna/GaGa AND metal/rap. icon_wink.gif
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    Jun 11, 2012 3:04 PM GMT
    Love it
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    Jun 11, 2012 3:07 PM GMT
    As for the OP, the majority of kids I grew up around listened to hip hop and many of them dressed like you describe.

    I have a love/hate relationship with hip hop. On the one hand, I at least developed a taste and appreciation for the music and some cultural aspects. On the other hand, hip hop culture I grew up around tended to be very homophobic, which always kept me at a cautious distance. Still, I have a good amount of hip hop on my iPod scattered with the Pop/Top40, show tunes, and heavy metal.
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    Jun 11, 2012 3:10 PM GMT
    NorthCountyDudeSD saidDressing like a douche will result in getting treated like a douche. Is this such a hard concept to understand?


    Truth.

    I have seen guys with pants so low they were nearly to the knees, and not only did it look really stupid, it was not practical in any way.

    I immediately know those aren't folks I'd like to know.
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    Jun 11, 2012 3:14 PM GMT
    Most folks I know that are hip hop are rude, inconsiderate, blast it at 0200 with total disregard for others, and are antagonist not just in the "art form" but in their actions.

    Then, of course, they wonder why the get stereo types.

    I've never had a gun pulled on me by a a white, brown, or asian, guy, that listen to hip hop. I HAVE had a gun pulled on me by a black guy with hip hop.

    It speaks as a whole to a disruptive, hateful, antagonist, culture, and the folks that live without it. Folks that prefer to be antagonistic, and complain, rather than make their lives better.

    Their choice, but, it's my choice to distance myself from them.

    I've only once been awakened to country music early in the morning, in 25 years of apartment living. Only a once or twice to rock music in that 25 years, but, I've had low riders in low riders blasting hip hop wake me up at 0300 many, many, times. They are just not very decent people. They are antagonistic and love to portray themselves as victims.
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    Jun 11, 2012 3:14 PM GMT
    I fucking love hiphop/rap. The 90's were golden for me because you had 2pac, Jay, Biggie, Mobb Depp, Busta, Ma$e, Dr Dre etc all at their peak. It was a really great time for rap music.

    I still keep up with it but hip hop isn't what it used to be. A lot of acts are forced to do pop for crossover appeal and I think it hurts the artistry of rap but what can you do.

    Anyway, I have yet to meet another gay man who likes hip hop. For some reason it just doesn't appeal to them generally and I understand why (violence, misogyny etc.).

    The clothing I've never been a fan of personally. Like you won't catch me dead in Phat Farm or Rocawear because I'd look like a dick but because Rap isn't associated with the gay scene like pop is I wouldn't guess a guy wearing that gear were gay. It's the same with rockers too. It kinda throws you off unless you know what else to look for.
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    Jun 11, 2012 3:15 PM GMT
    I dont have a problem with it........
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    Jun 11, 2012 3:33 PM GMT
    chuckystud saidMost folks I know that are hip hop are rude, inconsiderate, blast it at 0200 with total disregard for others, and are antagonist not just in the "art form" but in their actions.

    Then, of course, they wonder why the get stereo types.

    I've never had a gun pulled on me by a a white, brown, or asian, guy, that listen to hip hop. I HAVE had a gun pulled on me by a black guy with hip hop.

    It speaks as a whole to a disruptive, hateful, antagonist, culture, and the folks that live without it. Folks that prefer to be antagonistic, and complain, rather than make their lives better.

    Their choice, but, it's my choice to distance myself from them.

    I've only once been awakened to country music early in the morning, in 25 years of apartment living. Only a once or twice to rock music in that 25 years, but, I've had low riders in low riders blasting hip hop wake me up at 0300 many, many, times. They are just not very decent people. They are antagonistic and love to portray themselves as victims.


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    Jun 11, 2012 3:42 PM GMT
    I've always thought of myself as a hip-hop hater but the meaning of "hip-hop" has gotten really broad now. It used to basically be a synonym for "rap", in which case I'm not a fan. However, I like songs like "Iyaz - Replay" and I imagine it's considered hip-hop but it's more of like a calypso?
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    Jun 11, 2012 3:44 PM GMT
    geez thx, didnt expect that many replies that fast.

    But i gotta say im suprised by ur answers. First off i dont need people to tell me what is good or bad rap or how to live it or not loool, ive done my research guys its just funny to see people post some Pete Rock or talking about lil wayne....

    Second, didnt think gay people would be that superficial and judging, i guess i was wrong. Fuck this world is complicated, not only is it hard to fit in when ur gay, but it looks harder when u listen to a hip hop...

    From what i get here, i feel like most oof you guys (obviously) dont really know what rap is, and its fine, but what i didnt expect was their negative reaction towards it. U dont like it, u dont listen, u dont go out in public website to demonstrate ur uncalled hate lol.

    Anyways, thx alot for evrything u guys said, opened up my eyes a bit.
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    Jun 11, 2012 3:46 PM GMT
    ja89 saidOk so I feel the need to educate you (and some others) on hip-hop and my perspective. I'm not here to attack just forming an opinion... so there are 2 different perspectives on hip hop. The one where you just described where it's mostly influenced by the rappers and media. The other perspective is what I have live by and am apart of. Hip-hop isn't just about the rappers there is a whole community dedicated to it. The baggy clothes and "thuggish" looks you describe isn't real hip-hop. To be honest not one single person involved in the hip-hop community, fits what you've described (that I've met). Also, there are soo many elements to hip-hop to where you can't sect into just rappers and hood-rats. and mostly what you hear on the radios isn't really hip-hop (pop-hop is what I call it). Find some underground artists and you will see a whole different side to the culture.

    I know that this is all besides the OP's point. so to answer the question, I react the same with any of them. I welcome them with open arms and try and gain a new friend in the hip-hop scene. You can never have too many friends. As far them being gay or straight, i put that in the back of my mind. i rather hold close ties with these people as friends then make it messy by asking if they would want to date.


    If u wanna test out my knowledge let me know ! haha im sure i gotta a thing or two u could learn from me ! ;)
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    Jun 11, 2012 3:49 PM GMT
    meh

    There are parts of it that are stupid as all hell and there are parts of it that are not. So far this thread seems to focus more on a superficial level. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jun 11, 2012 3:53 PM GMT
    Yes, because people tend to judge way more people if they look hip hop,and its true. Ive always been looked at with wrong face, like im fucked in the head, and no one knows im gay yet lol. Cant wait to see what it ll do, and i dont wanna change my lifestyle and my musical taste to fit in the gay community. I thought it was more open minded here, maybe im wrong.
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    Jun 11, 2012 4:42 PM GMT
    Truppensturm said...Having said that, 90% of the posters here still have a major boner for Britney Spears or Madonna, so don't expect too much icon_lol.gif (and no, there's nothing wrong with that. Each to their own)



    You pretty much hit it with this last comment. Response about hip hop will be skewed for the most part because the majority of gay men (at least on this site) trend towards Britney, Madonna, and Lady Gaga. There's a new thread about one of them at least once every week.

    As for me, music is music. Wether the lyrics relate, the melody is infectious, or the track has a good beat. This extends to House, RNB, Hip Hop, Electro, Country, or Rock.

    As for men dressing in hip hop attire. Not being racial, but when a Caucasian guy dresses up in that manner. I find it attractive. It presents to me that he recognizes a certain style. However, there are limits to everything.

    Example: Channing Tatum
    Movie: Step Up

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    Jun 11, 2012 5:11 PM GMT
    Dj1990 saidI like females in hip hop though.
    I think they're cool...


    my neck
    my back
    lick my pussay and mah crack


    she's a badass bitchhhh mhmm





    LOL, same here, I also like females in hip hop. I think the reason I enjoy them is because there are only a few of them and it's easy to compare your favourite female rapper to another female rapper.

    My favourite female rappers are Eve, Charli Baltimore and Lil Kim.
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    Jun 11, 2012 5:15 PM GMT
    Not a fan of guys looking hip-hop or acting all gangsta. I don't mind if they listen to it, but if they try to look or act it, that's where it gets annoying.icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jun 11, 2012 5:16 PM GMT
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    Truppensturm said...Having said that, 90% of the posters here still have a major boner for Britney Spears or Madonna, so don't expect too much icon_lol.gif (and no, there's nothing wrong with that. Each to their own)



    You pretty much hit it with this last comment. Response about hip hop will be skewed for the most part because the majority of gay men (at least on this site) trend towards Britney, Madonna, and Lady Gaga.


    I'm sorry, when did liking Madonna and liking hip hop become mutually exclusive?

    I guess this mindset explains why music in many gay bars is so crappy.
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    Jun 11, 2012 5:19 PM GMT
    ja89 saidOk so I feel the need to educate you (and some others) on hip-hop and my perspective. I'm not here to attack just forming an opinion... so there are 2 different perspectives on hip hop. The one where you just described where it's mostly influenced by the rappers and media. The other perspective is what I have live by and am apart of. Hip-hop isn't just about the rappers there is a whole community dedicated to it. The baggy clothes and "thuggish" looks you describe isn't real hip-hop. To be honest not one single person involved in the hip-hop community, fits what you've described (that I've met). Also, there are soo many elements to hip-hop to where you can't sect into just rappers and hood-rats. and mostly what you hear on the radios isn't really hip-hop (pop-hop is what I call it). Find some underground artists and you will see a whole different side to the culture


    Yeah, there's a lot of indie rap/hip-hop out there that's just awesome (e.g. Aesop Rock, Hieroglyphics, Glitch Mob members (particularly edIT). It's unfortunate that "pop-hop" (good name icon_smile.gif is all that most people are familiar with. I think it's the same with country music. Most of what you here is "pop country", and, I think, mostly pretty terrible. There's a lot of indie country (e.g. howe gelb, edward sharpe, cross over with lots of "freak folk") that's really amazing.

    Ah well, at least the digital age makes finding the outliers a bit easier for those who want to. (I"m amazed anyone still listens to the radio.)

    As for "looking like [they] live hip-hop"... well, looking like you're trying hard to git some group-think ideal is not personally sexy to me regardless (whether you're trying to be an A&F "bro", plaid-decked hippest of the hipsters, or "hip-hop"). Though, I'm not going to write anyone off because of it either.
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    Jun 11, 2012 5:22 PM GMT


    That is all.
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    Jun 11, 2012 5:23 PM GMT
    rap

    hiphop

    my subs knock to it all
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    Jun 11, 2012 5:26 PM GMT
    I love it. Hip-hop is about expression and everyone can do it. Hence why it's popular around the world. My favorite rapper is Drake, but I also love Jay, Kanye, Em, etc. and even some old school Biggie, too.
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    Jun 11, 2012 5:26 PM GMT
    vinny42 saidI tried to search the forum see if i could find anthing, but nothing came up really. So i thought i would ask it straight up.

    Im a huge hip hop fan and always been, its the only music i listen to (coming from France Quebec or USA). And i feel like most of the gay guys would hate that music, and i can understand to a certain extent. They do say stupid homophobics things sometimes, but i dont mind at all.

    I wanna know how you guys feel when u see someone walking down the street in hiphop clothing if i can say (baggy pants long shirt). When you look at them do you think automaticly that they are not gay just becoz of the way they look (even tho gay rappers exist)? Is it a turn off to most off you guys, or its the opposite? And generally, in the gay community, is it a rare case a guy who lives hip hop?


    Great question. Personally, I'm not a fan of the use of homophobic slurs in rap music, but I won't let it sway whether or not I like the music. Music has been filled with misogynistic overtones for decades, and most haven't really cared too much. It's not a cool thing to do, but it is what it is. They're just words. We decide the meaning and intent.
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    Jun 11, 2012 5:30 PM GMT
    I can get into some hip hop when I'm in the mood. And hip-hop style? Even though it usually makes me feel very, um, white (read: uncool), I think some people wear it well, as long as they don't try to throw bad attitude. Postscript: It's ahright to wear the pants loose & low, just keep the junk covered & keep 'em off the flo'. icon_wink.gif