Jun 14, 2012 9:37 PM GMT
damn Israelis. you guys are always trouble makers.
IanCT saiddamn Israelis. you guys are always trouble makers.
As I said:
The hatists who continue their attacks on Israel rather than address the topic have already exposed themselves....
If you haven't yet, just put them on "ignore". You'll find a lot of topics, absent their babble, will then become readable!
MelB4Ever saidIanCT saiddamn Israelis. you guys are always trouble makers.
i think its really obvious here who's the real trouble maker..its all the muslim countries..thats for sure including Palestianians or however you spell it lol.
As far as I know Israelis are peaceful people and kind too. They don't kill eachother at the protests like wild savages.
realifedad said I searched on just one Israeli site by putting in one word "PINKWASHING" and 7 articles came up, and no where close to most of them were backing our RJ propagandist LIL'AIPAC (W4) and his efforts to cover up the truth.
Is it any wonder that some of us have to set the record straight after all the steady flow of LIL'AIPAC lies and propaganda coverups ?
IanCT saidPost useless links not making you any good Leeron.
The illegal "occupation" is the result of Israeli parties rejecting peace and destroy Palestinians.
Buddha saidWhenever I talk about military, people tend to paint this scenario where the whole world would be in ruins without the military. And then you'd have to figure who would put it in ruins to begin with.
Lol, no. I don't believe it's thank to America's war for oil is the reason I'm allowed to freely roam on the internet. Whenever I talk about military, people tend to paint this scenario where the whole world would be in ruins without the military. And then you'd have to figure who would put it in ruins to begin with.
MelB4Ever saidThe whole pinkwashing thing is such a bullshit. Israeli gay activists actually had to work very hard in order to achieve gay rights in Israel today. Its not like the government did all the work. People are just using the whole pinkwashing thing as an excuse because they have problem with Israel and another thing is having LGBT rights should have nothing to do with Israeli-Palestianian conflict. One has nothing to do with the other.
Wolverine4Israel inherited from the British a system where family law (including marriage) was goverend by the religious establishments (Jewish, Muslim, Christian and others). The absence of civil marriage is bad and is being worked on. It's just a matter of time and it is likely that gay marriages will be built it.
shutoman saidWolverine4Israel inherited from the British a system where family law (including marriage) was goverend by the religious establishments (Jewish, Muslim, Christian and others). The absence of civil marriage is bad and is being worked on. It's just a matter of time and it is likely that gay marriages will be built it.
Not so - English law permitted civil non-religious marriage before the mandate and it has thrived since. The absence of civil marriage happens because of the ultra-orthodox lobby in the Knesset, as you well know. it's not going to change soon. Stop blaming others for actions of the Hasidim.
realifedad said PINKWASHING >>>>>>>>definition>>>>>>>>>The effort to shed light on one aspect of Israels "democracy", to draw attention away from the many very UNDEMOCRATIC actions against the Palestinians rights under the OCCUPATION and SETTLEMENT THEFT OF LAND.
The minor aspect of Israels gay rights when held up against the whole picture of all the undemocratic aspects of Israels OCCUPATION is indeed quite pathetic. Rather childlike really, catch a little child at some destructive behavior and he is likely to say something like "but daddy I just fed the doggy like you asked me to" or some other little matter the child can use to distract from the bad behavior. The father will tell th child that whatever good he does is diminished and beside the point in light of the extreme bad behavior of destruction.
Blind approval of Israels supposed status as a democracy by holding up such as gay rights falls flat and fails totally at impressing the openminded international observer. We all know and read often what Israeli trocities are being conducted on a daily basis that are anything but democratic actions against their victims the Palestinians.
You Pro Israel members who might want to impress us need to do the patriotic thing by speaking out against the Occupation, the IDF murders of innocent children and peaceful demonstrators whose homes, lands and farms have been taken by Settlements. Then if statements are made about progress in Israels democracy on such small matters as gay rights readers would find it much more palatable. But this defensiveness, denying, and covering up of all the extremely undemocratic actions and then name calling against those who expose those bad actions does nothing but diminish you pro Israeli's cause, your blind AIPAC propagandist defenses only work to further delegitimize and isolate Israels cause. MANY MANY AN ARTICLE HAS BEEN WRITTEN ON THIS POINT BY JEWISH WRITERS ON JEWISH MEDIA.
Are you Pro Israeli members reading your own peoples writings at all ?
I'd be willing to bet that if you LIL'AIPAC types made some admissions, decried the Occupation and settlements rather than vehemently defending those actions and stopped the name calling to hush those who expose the truth, that many of us would accept your talking about the good gay aspect of Israel.
Any of you pro Israeli members willing to accept this reasonable challenge?
If not, why not ?