Solutrean hypothesis ...from "Trying to make sense of the Georgia War"

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    Aug 14, 2008 3:44 AM GMT
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    Caslon6000 saidDIGRESSION:

    Actually, the first Americans might have been Europeans.

    Solutrean hypothesis

    The controversial Solutrean hypothesis proposed in 1999 by Smithsonian archaeologist Dennis Stanford and colleague Bruce Bradley (Stanford and Bradley 2002), suggests that the Clovis people could have inherited technology from the Solutrean people who lived in southern Europe 21,000-15,000 years ago, and who created the first Stone Age artwork in present-day southern France. The link is suggested by the similarity in technology between the projectile points of the Solutreans and those of the Clovis people. Such a theory would require that the Solutreans crossed via the edge of the pack ice in the North Atlantic Ocean that then extended to the Atlantic coast of France. They could have done this using survival skills similar to those of the modern Inuit people. Supporters of this hypothesis suggest that stone tools found at Cactus Hill (an early American site in Virginia), that are knapped in a style between Clovis and Solutrean. Other scholars such as Emerson F. Greenman and Remy Cottevieille-Giraudet have also suggested a Northern Atlantic point of entry, citing toolmaking similarities between Clovis and Solutrean-era artifacts.

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    LOL. Bullcrap.

    Genetic markers trace Native American ancestors to East Siberia who crossed the (now sunk) Beringia land bridge.

    Which is why Mormon claims of Native Americans being the lost tribe of Israel is so hilarious.

    Particularly this:

    From Article: Study supports Bering Strait migration, Siberian origin to Native Americans
    A unique genetic variant is widespread in Native Americans across both American continents — suggesting that the first humans in the Americas came in a single migration or multiple waves from a single source, not in waves of migrations from different sources. The variant, which is not part of a gene and has no biological function, has not been found in genetic studies of people elsewhere in the world except eastern Siberia.

    Very explicit proof. Native Americans from the Inuits to the Mayans have this characteristic genetic 'marker' that is passed from father to son in the Y chromosome making it possible to trace ancestry back to the original man that spawned the mutation.

    In simpler terms, a man was born with a slightly mutated gene in his Y chromosome that he then passed on to all his sons. And this man is from East Siberia. This is only an example genetic marker, wikipedia says there are 70 such genetic markers.

    Not only that North American mammalian fauna is very similar to that of East Asia, and even further back - Dinosaurs. In fact Protoceratops, ceratopsids (cute little beaked critters) in China are what spawned the majestic ceratopsids in North America (also the most successful dinosaurs ever, they survived the longest among dinosaurs along with hadrosaurids I think) - the famous Triceratops, as well as more intimidating genera like Styracosaurus and Centrosaurus. Even carnosaur ancestors which evolved into the Tyrannosaurus rex of N. America.

    Face it, Native Americans are Asians. ;)

    From Wikipedia
    An article in the American Journal of Human Genetics states "Our results strongly support the hypothesis that haplogroup X, together with the other four main mtDNA haplogroups, was part of the gene pool of a single Native American founding population; therefore they do not support models that propose haplogroup-independent migrations, such as the migration from Europe posed by the Solutrean hypothesis."[3]

    Challenges to the Solutrean hypothesis

    Arthur J. Jelinek, an anthropologi
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    Aug 14, 2008 4:26 PM GMT
    Can I have your autograph Erik? (or is it Eric? drawing a blank.)
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    Aug 14, 2008 5:56 PM GMT
    Auryn saidCan I have your autograph Erik? (or is it Eric? drawing a blank.)


    Eric. What kind of fan are you? Can't even spell my name. Go mix me a martini. icon_wink.gif