Gay Marriage in Mexico Soon to Be a Reality

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    Aug 22, 2012 10:35 PM GMT
    JackBlair69 said351px-Samesex_marriage_in_USA.svg.png

    I much prefer our hodge-podge approach. It gives people room to discuss, debate, and ruminate on the issue.

    Much more healthy for a nation in the long run.


    And here's the map for first cousin marriages:

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    Aug 22, 2012 10:37 PM GMT
    A_X91 saidWell I live in Mexico City, and actually I can tell you that (idk if it's the social circle where I am in) the "macho" image is just a stereotype, I've had no problem with my straight friends or my family by telling them I'm gay. Actually, you can see gay couples holding hands in my University. So it's in general an open minded society here in Mexico City, IMO.


    Agreed my family is from Mexico City. I travel back just about every other year for Christmas and it is a very progressive city. Most of my family in Mexico is very accepting of me being gay.

    Now to just introduce them to my gringo bf. O' wait I no longer have one icon_eek.gif

    takers...lol

    Great for another country in the right direction!
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    Aug 22, 2012 10:38 PM GMT
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    JackBlair69 said351px-Samesex_marriage_in_USA.svg.png

    I much prefer our hodge-podge approach. It gives people room to discuss, debate, and ruminate on the issue.

    Much more healthy for a nation in the long run.


    And here's the map for first cousin marriages:

    350px-Cousin_marriage_map1.svg.png


    LOL @ American homos
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    Aug 22, 2012 10:48 PM GMT
    JR_RJ saidHorale! A ver cuando regreso al píes de mis abuelos!


    Quiere decir "pais"?
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    Aug 22, 2012 10:52 PM GMT
    Viva Mexico!
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    Aug 22, 2012 10:52 PM GMT
    A_X91 saidWell I live in Mexico City, and actually I can tell you that (idk if it's the social circle where I am in) the "macho" image is just a stereotype, I've had no problem with my straight friends or my family by telling them I'm gay. Actually, you can see gay couples holding hands in my University. So it's in general an open minded society here in Mexico City, IMO.


    I lived in Mexico City from 1990-95. Even then, 20 years ago, I didn't feel any sense of homophobia--------and I had a very diverse social circle. Also I traveled the country and knew openly-partnered guys in some very small towns.

    Since then I've had a home in Puerto Vallarta..........aka GAY MECCA.


    Yeah, I don't think the majority of Mexicans needed to be forced to accept gay marriage.

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    Aug 22, 2012 11:13 PM GMT
    JackBlair69 saidSo you are saying that you would like for our Supreme Court to order states to recognize gay marriage affirm the equal protection clause of the U.S. constitution?

    (You'll see I fixed this for you)... Yes, that would be nice, as well as the right thing to do.

    It's not that I don't understand the conservative point of view. I adhered to it myself for many years. But then I grew up.

    Conservatism primarily stands for preserving the exclusive privilege enjoyed for decades and centuries by affluent white male Christians. And more recently you can add the adjective "straight" to that list. But in a multi-cultural nation of more than 300 million people, there are others to consider.

    It is absolutely just and correct that the U.S. Supreme Court will affirm the right of gay people to marry in all 50 states. To do otherwise is to invalidate the equal protection clause. It is unambiguous: "no state shall...deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

    The fiction of "judicial activism" is just a canard conservatives trot out to try to stave off the progress of civil rights. Because in their view, as others gain in rights, power, and status, they lose in equal measure.
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    Aug 22, 2012 11:17 PM GMT
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    A_X91 saidWell I live in Mexico City, and actually I can tell you that (idk if it's the social circle where I am in) the "macho" image is just a stereotype, I've had no problem with my straight friends or my family by telling them I'm gay. Actually, you can see gay couples holding hands in my University. So it's in general an open minded society here in Mexico City, IMO.


    Agreed my family is from Mexico City. I travel back just about every other year for Christmas and it is a very progressive city. Most of my family in Mexico is very accepting of me being gay.

    Now to just introduce them to my gringo bf. O' wait I no longer have one icon_eek.gif

    takers...lol ME ME ME!

    Great for another country in the right direction!
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    Aug 22, 2012 11:17 PM GMT
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    A_X91 saidWell I live in Mexico City, and actually I can tell you that (idk if it's the social circle where I am in) the "macho" image is just a stereotype, I've had no problem with my straight friends or my family by telling them I'm gay. Actually, you can see gay couples holding hands in my University. So it's in general an open minded society here in Mexico City, IMO.


    Agreed my family is from Mexico City. I travel back just about every other year for Christmas and it is a very progressive city. Most of my family in Mexico is very accepting of me being gay.

    Now to just introduce them to my gringo bf. O' wait I no longer have one icon_eek.gif

    takers...lol

    Great for another country in the right direction!


    I agree. When I lived and studied in Mexico City I found it rather open. I was out and open to all of my friends/colleages & spent time walking hand-in-hand down the street without fear.
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    Aug 22, 2012 11:19 PM GMT
    LIEV said
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    JackBlair69 said351px-Samesex_marriage_in_USA.svg.png

    I much prefer our hodge-podge approach. It gives people room to discuss, debate, and ruminate on the issue.

    Much more healthy for a nation in the long run.


    And here's the map for first cousin marriages:

    350px-Cousin_marriage_map1.svg.png


    LOL @ American CONSERVATIVE/GOP homos
    Fixed it for ya.icon_wink.gif
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    Aug 22, 2012 11:39 PM GMT
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    A_X91 saidWell I live in Mexico City, and actually I can tell you that (idk if it's the social circle where I am in) the "macho" image is just a stereotype, I've had no problem with my straight friends or my family by telling them I'm gay. Actually, you can see gay couples holding hands in my University. So it's in general an open minded society here in Mexico City, IMO.


    I lived in Mexico City from 1990-95. Even then, 20 years ago, I didn't feel any sense of homophobia--------and I had a very diverse social circle. Also I traveled the country and knew openly-partnered guys in some very small towns.

    Since then I've had a home in Puerto Vallarta..........aka GAY MECCA.


    Yeah, I don't think the majority of Mexicans needed to be forced to accept gay marriage.



    +1, I live in Mexico too. The whole "macho attitude" perception is mostly a foreign cartoon of this country.
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    Aug 22, 2012 11:40 PM GMT
    JackBlair69 said
    I much prefer our hodge-podge approach. It gives people room to discuss, debate, and ruminate on the issue.

    Frankly, I think it's flippant to suggest we subject civil rights to the whims of voters rather than the constitution.

    When the U.S. Supreme Court issued its ruling in the 1967 case of Loving vs. Virginia, which struck down anti-miscegenation laws, public opinion in favor of such laws was as high as 70%. But we're not a pure democracy that goes by "majority rules". We're a constitutional republic.

    When a law is clearly in violation of the constitution (despite being on the law books even for decades) the right thing to do is to strike it down and rule that it cannot be enforced anywhere in the U.S. It's not a matter of discussion, debate, or rumination.

    You may take the view that the Supreme Court imposes, or orders, its will on the states. But that is not the case. The states are obliged to abide by the constitution and the U.S. Supreme Court is the body that ensures they do.
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    Aug 22, 2012 11:54 PM GMT
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    Aug 22, 2012 11:57 PM GMT
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    JR_RJ saidHorale! A ver cuando regreso al píes de mis abuelos!


    Quiere decir "pais"?
    Lol, sorry was using my phone to chose the wrong word in the list. icon_redface.gif
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    Aug 23, 2012 12:20 AM GMT
    How sad is it that the U.S. used to be a world leader in human rights -- and now we are falling way behind so many other Western nations.
    America's bigoted conservatives have done everything in their power to take our country in the wrong direction for the last two decades, but I do feel like their grasp is loosening as they die off and are replaced by more open-minded and progressive younger people whose minds have not been poisoned by hate.
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    Aug 23, 2012 12:31 AM GMT
    metta8 saidMexican States Ordered to Honor Gay Marriages

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/11/world/americas/11mexico.html?_r=2


    It'd cause a split in the union if the federal government here dared to try and order the states to do something like this!
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    Aug 23, 2012 12:36 AM GMT
    Boy the USA is starting to get a bit embarrassing at this point!
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    Aug 23, 2012 2:20 AM GMT
    Global_Citizen said
    JackBlair69 said
    I much prefer our hodge-podge approach. It gives people room to discuss, debate, and ruminate on the issue.

    Frankly, I think it's flippant to suggest we subject civil rights to the whims of voters rather than the constitution.

    When the U.S. Supreme Court issued its ruling in the 1967 case of Loving vs. Virginia, which struck down anti-miscegenation laws, public opinion in favor of such laws was as high as 70%. But we're not a pure democracy that goes by "majority rules". We're a constitutional republic.

    When a law is clearly in violation of the constitution (despite being on the law books even for decades) the right thing to do is to strike it down and rule that it cannot be enforced anywhere in the U.S. It's not a matter of discussion, debate, or rumination.

    You may take the view that the Supreme Court imposes, or orders, its will on the states. But that is not the case. The states are obliged to abide by the constitution and the U.S. Supreme Court is the body that ensures they do.
    jackBlairwitch has still to learn that little tidbit of knowledge!
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    Aug 23, 2012 2:26 AM GMT
    they wrote that article two years ago.... >.>

    Mexico had to honor gay-marriage awhile ago.
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    Aug 23, 2012 2:26 AM GMT
    JackBlair69 saidYes, congratulations on being "ordered" to do this.



    You are being ordered a million things every day and for the most part you follow these orders...its called law. Get over it and stop being such a whiner
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    Aug 23, 2012 2:58 AM GMT
    No tenía idea de eso heheheh
    I had no idea about it
    I should watch the news...
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    Aug 23, 2012 9:07 AM GMT
    OK this got me excited that Mexico may have legalized gay marriage. But I went to the article and it only says those states must recognize marriages registered in Mexico City.
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    Aug 23, 2012 2:25 PM GMT
    Jaxe saidOK this got me excited that Mexico may have legalized gay marriage. But I went to the article and it only says those states must recognize marriages registered in Mexico City.


    Yes, because Mexico City is the only place where same sex couples can get married.
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    Aug 23, 2012 2:29 PM GMT
    http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/mexicos-states-debate-gay-marriage-laws220812