Gay Marriage in Mexico Soon to Be a Reality

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    Aug 23, 2012 2:59 PM GMT
    ConfederateGhost saidYeah, because civil rights are up for debate. How come it's not everyone's rights up for debate, just homosexuals? I don't give a shit if they were "ordered". This is a civil rights issue...not everyone is going to want to comply (jim crowe laws) but too bad. We're moving forward.

    btw...that whole "what if they ordered blah blah blah"...guess what, they already did. DOMA?
    Yeah, so you can take that weak shit to the park where maybe the squirrels will care.

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    Aug 23, 2012 3:08 PM GMT
    JackBlair69 saidYes, congratulations on being "ordered" to do this.

    Oh, poor JackBlair69
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    Aug 23, 2012 3:08 PM GMT
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    Jaxe saidOK this got me excited that Mexico may have legalized gay marriage. But I went to the article and it only says those states must recognize marriages registered in Mexico City.

    Yes, because Mexico City is the only place where same sex couples can get married.

    Still, having to recognize same-sex marriages from Mexico City hastens the day other jurisdictions will follow suit in recognizing gay marriages in their own cities or states, especially when people start reading of the wedding-tourist dollars going to Mexico City and decide they want some of that for themselves.

    For now, though, it's equality under the law ... if you can afford to travel.
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    Dec 06, 2012 7:20 AM GMT
    Gay Marriage in Mexico Soon to Be a Reality
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    Dec 06, 2012 7:27 AM GMT
    I am Mexican and what I can say it's that it will still take a while, what really happend is that marriages that occured in Mexico City are now legally recognized in all the Republic (problem is that the civil code is different in every state). However, it is a big step. Hopefully, soon rather than later I can get marry wherever the hell I want.
    Another thing, I didn't really agree with the article is when they said:

    "a rather socially conservative neighbor like Mexico..."

    Actually, many people who don't know Mexico would be surprised with how open minded people are with homosexuality here. I see several times a day same sex couple holding hands on the streets or even in my Uni and no one has a problem with it.

    It was really exciting that it was a unanimous decision from the court, though. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Dec 06, 2012 8:05 AM GMT
    Sportsfan1 saidOnce again you posted an article that is noteworthy. This is a step in the right direction. If a country with a "macho" culture like Mexico can have legal same-sex marriage then a more progressive country like the USA will not be far behind. Of course there will be opposition from some of the more conservative elements. The Mexican Supreme court took a brave but correct stand in recognizing the legal issues regarding same-sex marriages performed in Mexico City. Good for them!

    sorry, but I couldn't help at chuckle at that sentence.

    if the US wants to be perceived as a progressive country, it needs to do something about that one half of its population which is stuck with medieval religious morals, and educate them into the 21. century.
    ...Or the US will soon find itself being compared to African and Middle Eastern countries (in terms of being progressive on social/equality issues).
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    Dec 09, 2012 4:13 AM GMT

    Thank you Metta 8 for posting the original article and the subsequent update. It is good to exchange information and news with RJ members who care about social justice issues.

    I lived in Mexico City from 1972 until 1986. I began to notice a shift concerning greater social acceptance towards gay people since the early 1980's when the first gay pride parades took place. I was fortunate to attend one when I was in my late teens/early twenties around 1984. I obviously feel an attachment to Mexico and I am pleased to see the progress in that area and the positive impact that must be having on the friends I left behind.

    I agree with A X91 and judoguy as far as quickly labeling Latin countries as "more socially conservative" than the U.S. In some respects they may appear that way (for instance in issues such as the roles of women and reproductive rights issues) however I am sensing a real shift in attitudes on all social issues among Latinos in the U.S. and around Latin America. From what I have read and experienced, the apparent change is also generational not unlike what seems to be happening in the non-Latino U.S population.

    I am beginning to take a second look at what if often defined as "socially conservative" societies and I am realizing that transformation happens in a very unique cultural, social and political framework in each country or culture. I think that when we label other societies as "more" or "less" than, inevitably we are using our own standards of what we think would be the "right" way to become more "modern". Instead, I suggest that we look at things like: are these more "individualism"-oriented societies or more "collective"-oriented ones? In the former case, social change advocacy tends to be framed in the context of individual rights and privacy, whereas in the latter it tends to be more focused on what is good for family, community and country. Neither standpoint can predict which society will legalize equal marriage rights first because there are other factors at play. However this can help us look more closely at each community or society from their unique perspective when we discuss issues of social change.