Lack of racial diversity in my local gay community really bringing me down

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    Sep 02, 2012 5:23 AM GMT
    Why should the race even matter I have been in love with an african american man in fact I still love him wish I didnt mess up the relationship by having an emotional break down but still.icon_exclaim.gif
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    Sep 02, 2012 11:08 AM GMT
    Another_Jeremy said
    Scruffypup said
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    tereseus1 said Within the gay community...each racial group tend to be well..not into black guys, including some black gays.




    satire alert

    It is indeed sad that all stereotypes are based in reality. I'm sure you've come to accept the fact that because you're a gay man, people expect you to have dozens of sexual partners a month, to be HIV+ and (since you are on the older side for Planet Gay) touch little boys because you can't with a woman. It's up to gay people to leave behind the idea that that all they can do is shamefully suck cock in public bathrooms and spread diseases to each other. Sure there are gay men who don't snort cocaine off of their latest trick's ass, but the fact is that most do. If the gay community would just sit down and convince its men to stop acting like such sex-crazed animals, marriage rights would have been recognized decades ago. You don't have to chase after innocent young men who are half your age and psychologically susceptible to such predatory advances. Unfortunately, most people just see the individuals as part of the sad group from which they come. It's too bad that decent guys like you have to suffer because some of the other old, perverted, promiscuous, HIV+, immoral, superficial, homosexuals can't control themselves.


    I think I understand where you're going with this. But please put on your raincoat. There's a shit storm-a-comin.
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    satire alert

    It is indeed sad that all stereotypes are based in reality. I'm sure you've come to accept the fact that because you're a gay man, people expect you to have dozens of sexual partners a month, to be HIV+ and (since you are on the older side for Planet Gay) touch little boys because you can't with a woman. It's up to gay people to leave behind the idea that that all they can do is shamefully suck cock in public bathrooms and spread diseases to each other. Sure there are gay men who don't snort cocaine off of their latest trick's ass, but the fact is that most do. If the gay community would just sit down and convince its men to stop acting like such sex-crazed animals, marriage rights would have been recognized decades ago. You don't have to chase after innocent young men who are half your age and psychologically susceptible to such predatory advances. Unfortunately, most people just see the individuals as part of the sad group from which they come. It's too bad that decent guys like you have to suffer because some of the other old, perverted, promiscuous, HIV+, immoral, superficial, homosexuals can't control themselves.



    It's odd that you would put "satire alert" before your post, because pretty much everything you said in it is true.

    "Because you're a gay man, people expect you to have dozens of sexual partners a month." I think a LOT of straight people think this about us. After I came out to my sister, she altered her normal greeting from "how are you doing" to "how are you feeling?" She assumed I had AIDS since I was gay! Did I get angry at her? No. Because in this country most of the people with AIDS/HIV ARE gay. Gay men are still out there barebacking like crazy, so how can I expect her to throw off that stereotype so easily?

    It's apparent to me why we disagree on everything.....you see yourself as a victim and I do not.
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    Sep 02, 2012 7:03 PM GMT
    this thread makes my penis itch.
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    Sep 02, 2012 7:18 PM GMT
    makes me want to snort cocaine off of a tricks ass!
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    Sep 02, 2012 9:28 PM GMT
    Myol said

    I wish we all could discuss this in person like the real life conversations I've had about this topic with so many people. Comments online are too easy to misinterpret and mislabel. I don't know why, but I don't think you are a racist, even though I can totally see how others would. At the same time, there are some things you and others who disagree with you have written in here that piss me off and are hard to understand how one could think that way. Too bad. Opportunity lost I guess....



    You won't see me deny that I'm a racist. That's because I'm comfortable enough in myself to know that I am not, and that's all that matters to me. If someone mistakes my criticism of a particular race as "racist", it only tells me they have no idea what the term actually means. I often criticize the gay community, but that doesn't make me a homophobe.
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    Scruffypup said
    Myol said

    I wish we all could discuss this in person like the real life conversations I've had about this topic with so many people. Comments online are too easy to misinterpret and mislabel. I don't know why, but I don't think you are a racist, even though I can totally see how others would. At the same time, there are some things you and others who disagree with you have written in here that piss me off and are hard to understand how one could think that way. Too bad. Opportunity lost I guess....



    You won't see me deny that I'm a racist. That's because I'm comfortable enough in myself to know that I am not, and that's all that matters to me. If someone mistakes my criticism of a particular race as "racist", it only tells me they have no idea what the term actually means. I often criticize the gay community, but that doesn't make me a homophobe.


    What it must be like to be so smart. It's hilarious to hear you talk about how I view myself as a victim when you are incessantly whining about how you can't find a young boy to hang out with/fuck. I'll be waiting for your next critique of white people. And old people. How many people do you regularly interact with on an interpersonal level who are not white? Why do you think it is that so many black people disagree with you about your "critiques" of black people? To ask these questions is to answer them. It's fascinating that you have such a proclivity toward listing black pathologies, but no interest in objective analyses of their causation or the pathologies inherent to your own racial identity. You're not interested in offering any kind of hard truths to black people. You are only interested in using every platform you can to "other" African-Americans and discredit the experiences of men who are not white.

    More importantly, you are a narcissistic, superficial, dishonest, hate-mongering, entitled, racist, hypocritical, douche-bag. You are the absolute worst the gay community has to offer. Fortunately, you're on your way to the grave. And that's some comfort.
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    It's hilarious to hear you talk about how I view myself as a victim when you are incessantly whining about how you can't find a young boy to hang out with/fuck.


    WHAT? "Young boy"? I'm not even attracted to young boys you senile old fool. I like MEN....not boys. Either you're incredibly stupid or you're just a troll making shit up. Or both. icon_rolleyes.gif

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    Why do you think it is that so many black people disagree with you about your "critiques" of black people?


    First of all, not all Black people disagree with me. But the ones who do most likely don't like their victim mentality being challenged....especially by a White boy. I'm not saying anything many Black people have said themselves, because there are plenty of Black people who do not play the victim. Ask Bill Cosby the same question you're asking me and see how quick another Black man puts you in your place.

    Another_Jeremy saidTo ask these questions is to answer them. It's fascinating that you have such a proclivity toward listing black pathologies, but no interest in objective analyses of their causation or the pathologies inherent to your own racial identity. You're not interested in offering any kind of hard truths to black people. You are only interested in using every platform you can to "other" African-Americans and discredit the experiences of men who are not white.

    More importantly, you are a narcissistic, superficial, dishonest, hate-mongering, entitled, racist, hypocritical, douche-bag. You are the absolute worst the gay community has to offer. Fortunately, you're on your way to the grave. And that's some comfort.


    And I'm the hateful one huh? Considering you're a black male, chances are you'll die before me. And that's not hate. It's simply a statistical fact.
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    Sep 04, 2012 4:56 AM GMT
    Another_Jeremy said
    Scruffypup said
    Myol said

    I wish we all could discuss this in person like the real life conversations I've had about this topic with so many people. Comments online are too easy to misinterpret and mislabel. I don't know why, but I don't think you are a racist, even though I can totally see how others would. At the same time, there are some things you and others who disagree with you have written in here that piss me off and are hard to understand how one could think that way. Too bad. Opportunity lost I guess....



    You won't see me deny that I'm a racist. That's because I'm comfortable enough in myself to know that I am not, and that's all that matters to me. If someone mistakes my criticism of a particular race as "racist", it only tells me they have no idea what the term actually means. I often criticize the gay community, but that doesn't make me a homophobe.


    What it must be like to be so smart. It's hilarious to hear you talk about how I view myself as a victim when you are incessantly whining about how you can't find a young boy to hang out with/fuck. I'll be waiting for your next critique of white people. And old people. How many people do you regularly interact with on an interpersonal level who are not white? Why do you think it is that so many black people disagree with you about your "critiques" of black people? To ask these questions is to answer them. It's fascinating that you have such a proclivity toward listing black pathologies, but no interest in objective analyses of their causation or the pathologies inherent to your own racial identity. You're not interested in offering any kind of hard truths to black people. You are only interested in using every platform you can to "other" African-Americans and discredit the experiences of men who are not white.

    More importantly, you are a narcissistic, superficial, dishonest, hate-mongering, entitled, racist, hypocritical, douche-bag. You are the absolute worst the gay community has to offer. Fortunately, you're on your way to the grave. And that's some comfort.


    You have got to be fucking kidding me.
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    Sep 04, 2012 5:00 AM GMT
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    It's hilarious to hear you talk about how I view myself as a victim when you are incessantly whining about how you can't find a young boy to hang out with/fuck.


    WHAT? "Young boy"? I'm not even attracted to young boys you senile old fool. I like MEN....not boys. Either you're incredibly stupid or you're just a troll making shit up. Or both. icon_rolleyes.gif

    Another_Jeremy said
    Why do you think it is that so many black people disagree with you about your "critiques" of black people?


    First of all, not all Black people disagree with me. But the ones who do most likely don't like their victim mentality being challenged....especially by a White boy. I'm not saying anything many Black people have said themselves, because there are plenty of Black people who do not play the victim. Ask Bill Cosby the same question you're asking me and see how quick another Black man puts you in your place.

    Another_Jeremy saidTo ask these questions is to answer them. It's fascinating that you have such a proclivity toward listing black pathologies, but no interest in objective analyses of their causation or the pathologies inherent to your own racial identity. You're not interested in offering any kind of hard truths to black people. You are only interested in using every platform you can to "other" African-Americans and discredit the experiences of men who are not white.

    More importantly, you are a narcissistic, superficial, dishonest, hate-mongering, entitled, racist, hypocritical, douche-bag. You are the absolute worst the gay community has to offer. Fortunately, you're on your way to the grave. And that's some comfort.


    And I'm the hateful one huh? Considering you're a black male, chances are you'll die before me. And that's not hate. It's simply a statistical fact.




    I guess you're counting Bill Cosby as someone with whom you regularly have interpersonal interactions? There are black people besides Bill Cosby in case you didn't know. Calling you a racist does not make someone a victim. It just means they think you're racist. I guess YourName2000 (white) has a victim mentality as well?

    From April of this year-

    "I believe people who view others in terms of "old", do so because of many factors:

    • Immaturity - It seems the younger the person (generally speaking), the more restrictive they are in what they find attractive. I suppose much of that has to do with peer influence, but some are able to break away and think more independently. Those that are able to do this tend to have richer lives that include a more diverse group of friends.....including older people.

    • Ignorance - It's fundamentally illogical to judge someone so harshly for something you will surely become at some point (if you're lucky.) Engaging in name calling and attitudes of disrespect of older people only points to a deep fear of getting older themselves.

    • Unsophisticated - People who never allow themselves to be exposed to anything outside of their small circle of friends never get the chance to actively engage with someone outside their age group. Therefore, they live in tiny little worlds and wonder why their lives are so boring.

    In the end, "old" is irrelevant. 80 is young to a 90 year old, while 20 seems ancient to a 15 year old. Not only is it irrelevant, but calling someone "old" is extremely hurtful. It makes a person feel as if they are no longer valuable. It's okay to call an antique coffee table "old", but not a human being. "

    That's you is it not? Hmmm . . . .

    Another politically correct, hypocritical response. You love to ask questions like this, while at the same time referring to anyone who has an age preference in regards to dating/sex as evil people. So right there you've eliminated any chance that the guys with a preference are going to post an honest answer! And by the way, most oldies like you who are saying age doesn't matter.....a quick check of your Hotlists tells a very different story! The average age of the men on your hotlist is about 38. That's 15 years younger than you. I counted about 5 men who were in their 50s out of 146. Sounds like you just want everyone to be more open-minded so you can get some young tail.

    So why is it closed minded to not be into old men, but it's merely a preference to not be interested in black men? Why do you characterize those who disagree with your "arguments" on racialized preferences as self-proclaimed victims, but not yourself when you make the same arguments in relation to discrimination due to your age?

    Hypocrite.
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    Wow I just came in here to check what it was about and this thread just made me see another side of RJ... actually saying it's fortunate that someone's on the way to the grave, even when it's not true, is disgusting.
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    @Another_Jeremy - I see you've directed another long-winded post at me, but I haven't read it and I refuse to read anything else you write. In all of my heated arguments with you, I have never wished death upon you. That you can find "comfort" in the death of someone who disagrees with you says volumes of your character.
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    Scruffypup said@Another_Jeremy - I see you've directed another long-winded post at me, but I haven't read it and I refuse to read anything else you write. In all of my heated arguments with you, I have never wished death upon you. That you can find "comfort" in my death says so much about you.


    The only reason you refuse to respond is because I highlighted blatant double standards in your ideologies about race and age.

    You know what says volumes about your character? Continually making racist statements and then acting like you're being mistreated when someone has a hostile reaction.

    Aww. Who's playing the victim now? You are too right in saying you haven't wished death on me. Just that the entire population of Africa should be wiped out. And no I did not wish death upon you. I said you're on your way to the grave. Which you are. Old people die. The world would simply be better off without people like you in it.

    But when you stop playing for pity, take the time to read my previous post. I would genuinely love to hear your response. It uses your past posts to dismantle your own claims.

    Cheers!
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    Scruffypup said@Another_Jeremy - I see you've directed another long-winded post at me, but I haven't read it and I refuse to read anything else you write. In all of my heated arguments with you, I have never wished death upon you. That you can find "comfort" in my death says so much about you.


    The only reason you refuse to respond is because I highlighted blatant double standards in your ideologies about race and age.

    You know what says volumes about your character? Continually making racist statements and then acting like you're being mistreated when someone has a hostile reaction.

    Aww. Who's playing the victim now? You are too right in saying you haven't wished death on me. Just that the entire population of Africa should be wiped out. And no I did not wish death upon you. I said you're on your way to the grave. Which you are. Old people die. The world would simply be better off without people like you in it.

    But when you stop playing for pity, take the time to read my previous post. I would genuinely love to hear your response. It uses your past posts to dismantle your own claims.

    Cheers!


    So, you take comfort in the fact that he's "on his way to the grave" because he types in this forum things that you (and other RJers, including myself) don't like?
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    Another_Jeremy said
    Scruffypup said@Another_Jeremy - I see you've directed another long-winded post at me, but I haven't read it and I refuse to read anything else you write. In all of my heated arguments with you, I have never wished death upon you. That you can find "comfort" in my death says so much about you.


    The only reason you refuse to respond is because I highlighted blatant double standards in your ideologies about race and age.

    You know what says volumes about your character? Continually making racist statements and then acting like you're being mistreated when someone has a hostile reaction.

    Aww. Who's playing the victim now? You are too right in saying you haven't wished death on me. Just that the entire population of Africa should be wiped out. And no I did not wish death upon you. I said you're on your way to the grave. Which you are. Old people die. The world would simply be better off without people like you in it.

    But when you stop playing for pity, take the time to read my previous post. I would genuinely love to hear your response. It uses your past posts to dismantle your own claims.

    Cheers!


    So, you take comfort in the fact that he's "on his way to the grave" because he types in this forum things that you (and other RJers, including myself) don't like?


    Yep. We have to root the evil out in our society. And what we can't root out, we just have to wait out.
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    Another_Jeremy said
    Scruffypup said@Another_Jeremy - I see you've directed another long-winded post at me, but I haven't read it and I refuse to read anything else you write. In all of my heated arguments with you, I have never wished death upon you. That you can find "comfort" in my death says so much about you.


    The only reason you refuse to respond is because I highlighted blatant double standards in your ideologies about race and age.

    You know what says volumes about your character? Continually making racist statements and then acting like you're being mistreated when someone has a hostile reaction.

    Aww. Who's playing the victim now? You are too right in saying you haven't wished death on me. Just that the entire population of Africa should be wiped out. And no I did not wish death upon you. I said you're on your way to the grave. Which you are. Old people die. The world would simply be better off without people like you in it.

    But when you stop playing for pity, take the time to read my previous post. I would genuinely love to hear your response. It uses your past posts to dismantle your own claims.

    Cheers!


    So, you take comfort in the fact that he's "on his way to the grave" because he types in this forum things that you (and other RJers, including myself) don't like?



    He's a troll. Ask him to quote where I said Africa should be wiped out and you'll get no response, because I've never said any such thing! And earlier he accused me of liking young boys which has no basis in reality at all. He just makes up complete lies and distorts what people say.
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    Scruffypup said
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    Another_Jeremy said
    Scruffypup said@Another_Jeremy - I see you've directed another long-winded post at me, but I haven't read it and I refuse to read anything else you write. In all of my heated arguments with you, I have never wished death upon you. That you can find "comfort" in my death says so much about you.


    The only reason you refuse to respond is because I highlighted blatant double standards in your ideologies about race and age.

    You know what says volumes about your character? Continually making racist statements and then acting like you're being mistreated when someone has a hostile reaction.

    Aww. Who's playing the victim now? You are too right in saying you haven't wished death on me. Just that the entire population of Africa should be wiped out. And no I did not wish death upon you. I said you're on your way to the grave. Which you are. Old people die. The world would simply be better off without people like you in it.

    But when you stop playing for pity, take the time to read my previous post. I would genuinely love to hear your response. It uses your past posts to dismantle your own claims.

    Cheers!


    So, you take comfort in the fact that he's "on his way to the grave" because he types in this forum things that you (and other RJers, including myself) don't like?



    He's a troll. Ask him to quote where I said Africa should be wiped out and you'll get no response, because I've never said any such thing! And earlier he accused me of liking young boys which has no basis in reality at all. He just makes up complete lies and distorts what people say.


    On April 23 on the thread AFRICA

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    Any "continent" or country that is EVIL, CRUEL and IGNORANT enough to allow things like this to happen, should just be vaporized with orbiting lasers from outer space and start over!
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    Scruffypup said
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    Another_Jeremy said
    Scruffypup said@Another_Jeremy - I see you've directed another long-winded post at me, but I haven't read it and I refuse to read anything else you write. In all of my heated arguments with you, I have never wished death upon you. That you can find "comfort" in my death says so much about you.


    The only reason you refuse to respond is because I highlighted blatant double standards in your ideologies about race and age.

    You know what says volumes about your character? Continually making racist statements and then acting like you're being mistreated when someone has a hostile reaction.

    Aww. Who's playing the victim now? You are too right in saying you haven't wished death on me. Just that the entire population of Africa should be wiped out. And no I did not wish death upon you. I said you're on your way to the grave. Which you are. Old people die. The world would simply be better off without people like you in it.

    But when you stop playing for pity, take the time to read my previous post. I would genuinely love to hear your response. It uses your past posts to dismantle your own claims.

    Cheers!


    So, you take comfort in the fact that he's "on his way to the grave" because he types in this forum things that you (and other RJers, including myself) don't like?



    He's a troll. Ask him to quote where I said Africa should be wiped out and you'll get no response, because I've never said any such thing! And earlier he accused me of liking young boys which has no basis in reality at all. He just makes up complete lies and distorts what people say.


    On April 23 on the thread AFRICA

    ScruffyPup

    Any "continent" or country that is EVIL, CRUEL and IGNORANT enough to allow things like this to happen, should just be vaporized with orbiting lasers from outer space and start over!



    Not because they're Black you idiot.....that thread was about them BURNING PEOPLE ALIVE for being gay!
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    Scruffypup said@Another_Jeremy - I see you've directed another long-winded post at me, but I haven't read it and I refuse to read anything else you write. In all of my heated arguments with you, I have never wished death upon you. That you can find "comfort" in my death says so much about you.


    The only reason you refuse to respond is because I highlighted blatant double standards in your ideologies about race and age.

    You know what says volumes about your character? Continually making racist statements and then acting like you're being mistreated when someone has a hostile reaction.

    Aww. Who's playing the victim now? You are too right in saying you haven't wished death on me. Just that the entire population of Africa should be wiped out. And no I did not wish death upon you. I said you're on your way to the grave. Which you are. Old people die. The world would simply be better off without people like you in it.

    But when you stop playing for pity, take the time to read my previous post. I would genuinely love to hear your response. It uses your past posts to dismantle your own claims.

    Cheers!


    So, you take comfort in the fact that he's "on his way to the grave" because he types in this forum things that you (and other RJers, including myself) don't like?



    He's a troll. Ask him to quote where I said Africa should be wiped out and you'll get no response, because I've never said any such thing! And earlier he accused me of liking young boys which has no basis in reality at all. He just makes up complete lies and distorts what people say.


    On April 23 on the thread AFRICA

    ScruffyPup

    Any "continent" or country that is EVIL, CRUEL and IGNORANT enough to allow things like this to happen, should just be vaporized with orbiting lasers from outer space and start over!



    Not because their Black you idiot.....that thread was about them BURNING PEOPLE ALIVE.


    Um . .what does them burning people alive have to do with the REST OF THE POPULATION OF THE CONTINENT?

    People have been burned alive in the US and Europe. Should those they be wiped off the face of the Earth also?
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    Another_Jeremy said
    Scruffypup said
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    Scruffypup said@Another_Jeremy - I see you've directed another long-winded post at me, but I haven't read it and I refuse to read anything else you write. In all of my heated arguments with you, I have never wished death upon you. That you can find "comfort" in my death says so much about you.


    The only reason you refuse to respond is because I highlighted blatant double standards in your ideologies about race and age.

    You know what says volumes about your character? Continually making racist statements and then acting like you're being mistreated when someone has a hostile reaction.

    Aww. Who's playing the victim now? You are too right in saying you haven't wished death on me. Just that the entire population of Africa should be wiped out. And no I did not wish death upon you. I said you're on your way to the grave. Which you are. Old people die. The world would simply be better off without people like you in it.

    But when you stop playing for pity, take the time to read my previous post. I would genuinely love to hear your response. It uses your past posts to dismantle your own claims.

    Cheers!


    So, you take comfort in the fact that he's "on his way to the grave" because he types in this forum things that you (and other RJers, including myself) don't like?



    He's a troll. Ask him to quote where I said Africa should be wiped out and you'll get no response, because I've never said any such thing! And earlier he accused me of liking young boys which has no basis in reality at all. He just makes up complete lies and distorts what people say.


    On April 23 on the thread AFRICA

    ScruffyPup

    Any "continent" or country that is EVIL, CRUEL and IGNORANT enough to allow things like this to happen, should just be vaporized with orbiting lasers from outer space and start over!



    Not because their Black you idiot.....that thread was about them BURNING PEOPLE ALIVE.


    Um . .what does them burning people alive have to do with the REST OF THE POPULATION OF THE CONTINENT?

    People have been burned alive in the US and Europe. Should those they be wiped off the face of the Earth also?



    There's something badly wrong with you to take everything someone says so fucking literal. Only people with VERY low IQ's do such things.
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    For starters, whoever said that Drake is college educated is very wrong. He actually dropped out of high school to film Degrassi/to pursue his rap career. However after he established himself he went back to get his diploma. I think that's admirable and good for a 'black' role model, even if he is half white and grew up in a decent home.

    Now what I'm going to say is what I see for where I live (Trinidad) and my opinion on the matter. Black people fall under the stereotype here, I'd say depending on how they were brought up it'd be unwillingly. I do see some guys try and follow the stereotype because they think it's "cool." Now regarding the guys thinking it's cool, where do you think they get that idea? The people in their own community that pushes it. Think back to when 50 Cent was relevant, I can remember those days clearly when I was in high school. It was the thing to do to wear your baggy pants drooping almost off your body, showing off your boxers or whatever. Besides that, I saw guys purposefully trying to mimic 50 Cent. We all know what type of music he was pushing.

    However, when he disappeared into obscurity things started to change. I have no idea whether it's because they decided to grow up around the time 50 left but they got out of that stereotype (most, some still remained that way which resulted in a rather "TV Moment" where my classmates opposed the guy and told him to grow up). Anyway, those are the people who tried intentionally to be that way. Now I'm going to look at the people that I see that are unintentionally thrusted into the stereotype to the point where it's all they know. We have a really bad area here where if you're from there you're instantly labelled as "criminal." Majority of the "black" population lives there (this country is full of people that are mostly mixed, so majority is mixed rather than black) and the way they are raised causes them to act a certain way... which just happens to be the stereotype.

    The fact of the matter is that if anyone wants a stereotype to disappear there are two things, I believe, that can make it happen: Embrace/Ignore it to the point where it is no longer anything bad/if it's not a weapon anymore then people can't use it against you OR have the community who are being stereotyped prove them wrong.

    Black people HAVE proved the stereotype wrong MANY times. But for someone to say that American society is trying to keep "being black" as a bad thing is completely idiotic. I mean, come on, the President of the United States is black. One of the wealthiest and influential person on the planet (Oprah) is black. The list goes on with successful blacks that are NOT stereotypical... be it models (Tyra Banks has a career that thousands of white models wish they had), singers, actors, writers... the list goes on and on and on.

    The problem is that when they strive to break the stereotype, there are others within the community that keep reminding people that it exists. If some people didn't act the victim non-stop then people wouldn't even remember that they are "supposed to treat them differently." I see people act the victim all the time here and I am only speaking from what I see where I live, but if a black guy is arrested for murdering someone here the mother will be bawling her eyes out screaming "he's a good boy" proclaiming the police have the wrong person when it's clear that he was tied to a gang and had a weapon/motive to commit the murder.

    Basically my point is that a lot of black people have risen above the stereotype to the point where people have kind of forgotten about it, or at least, don't bring it up anymore. However there are some that use the same stereotype they hate as an excuse for themselves to act like a victim. Ultimately it will be the people who are under the stereotype to take action if they truly want to remove it, but from what I see here, some people actually like the stereotype just to use it as an excuse to get away from certain things.

    PS: If things get a little confusing, I didn't really get to go through it and re-read and fix stuff because I'm super tired and it's really late. Also, most of that is from what I see in my own country and I'd like to remind people that things are different in other parts of the world.
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    Sep 04, 2012 6:33 AM GMT
    Scruffypup said
    Another_Jeremy said
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    Scruffypup said@Another_Jeremy - I see you've directed another long-winded post at me, but I haven't read it and I refuse to read anything else you write. In all of my heated arguments with you, I have never wished death upon you. That you can find "comfort" in my death says so much about you.


    The only reason you refuse to respond is because I highlighted blatant double standards in your ideologies about race and age.

    You know what says volumes about your character? Continually making racist statements and then acting like you're being mistreated when someone has a hostile reaction.

    Aww. Who's playing the victim now? You are too right in saying you haven't wished death on me. Just that the entire population of Africa should be wiped out. And no I did not wish death upon you. I said you're on your way to the grave. Which you are. Old people die. The world would simply be better off without people like you in it.

    But when you stop playing for pity, take the time to read my previous post. I would genuinely love to hear your response. It uses your past posts to dismantle your own claims.

    Cheers!


    So, you take comfort in the fact that he's "on his way to the grave" because he types in this forum things that you (and other RJers, including myself) don't like?



    He's a troll. Ask him to quote where I said Africa should be wiped out and you'll get no response, because I've never said any such thing! And earlier he accused me of liking young boys which has no basis in reality at all. He just makes up complete lies and distorts what people say.


    On April 23 on the thread AFRICA

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    Any "continent" or country that is EVIL, CRUEL and IGNORANT enough to allow things like this to happen, should just be vaporized with orbiting lasers from outer space and start over!



    Not because their Black you idiot.....that thread was about them BURNING PEOPLE ALIVE.


    Um . .what does them burning people alive have to do with the REST OF THE POPULATION OF THE CONTINENT?

    People have been burned alive in the US and Europe. Should those they be wiped off the face of the Earth also?



    There's something badly wrong with you to take everything someone says so fucking literal. Only people with VERY low IQ's do such things.


    Only a person with a very low IQ would extrapolate a horrific event in a country to use as a critique of an entire continent with over a billion people on it. Gays face violence and murder in the US and I don't recall you making broad comments about the entire populace of this country.

    You've yet to answer why you get to ride the high road against ageism, but when blacks do the same against racism they're being dishonest, politically correct victims.
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    MadeinMich saidSo I'm back in Michigan, which has a very divisive racial history and am down about the prospect to meet guys of every race in this area. In terms of dating I consider myself like a united nations with no main prejudices in my attraction to guys. But since I've been back here from Toronto the racial disparity amoung gay guys here has been amplified in my consciousness. I have been called a nigger (unprovoked, honestly) online and when my white friends asks other guys (who ARE in my league with no dilusional expectation of mine, hefty, balding)why the lack of interest they say "I'm not into black guys".

    Cut to a month ago when I was in Toronto men from all different cultures were into me and I was into them. Muscular, handsome, guys from different races who would have shunned me here at home were suprisingly interested and they were suprised at my situation back home. Due to the lack of employment prospects in my field it is very difficult to move to a more culturall diverse town and its killing me.

    Don't get me wrong I am attracted to AA men as well but I'm not exclusive to one race. But here it seems like black fro black and white for white. A saturday night at a gay bar or club looks like a high school cafeteria where all the races have segregated themselves. This is especially sad to me because the out gay population is relatively small.

    Does anyone notice the same thing where they live? How does it make you feel? Not looking for a pity party just some discourse on the subject.





    Wow, I could not agree you you more! I moved to Michigan four years ago, and the non black guys here won't even LOOK at a black guy. Its TERRIBLE! Its also kinda hard to find a decent black friends. Ive NEVER been into the thug type. Dont get me wrong, I love my brothers, but realistically Detroit guys are a trip.icon_neutral.gif Unbelievable! SO, perhaps I'll just move back home next month. Its getting boring here. Maybe you should try Windsor(Canada). They are much more open, and friendlier.

    You're from Australia? What the hell are you doing in Detroit, Michigan, U.S.A of all places?




    LOL! well, i went to Sydney last year, and had the best time of my life. The guys are into black guys excessively ; felt like a celebrity.... jobs seem plentiful. Since 99 percent of the guys here are not into black guys, there is really no point in having my location set. I am planing to move there after college.
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    Sep 16, 2012 3:57 AM GMT


    Well Racial Dating places or cities are like Real Estate, it's all about Location, Location, Location .
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    Sep 16, 2012 4:04 AM GMT
    I am so glad this got resurrected.

    We need a good race thread or masc vs fem every once in a while, otherwise shit gets boring around here!