Could I be arrested?

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    Sep 07, 2012 8:12 AM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle said^ Alright, I lied. I'm not 100% naked.

    I'm wearing socks....and only socks... icon_twisted.gificon_twisted.gif


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    Sep 07, 2012 8:31 AM GMT
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    MuchMoreThanMuscle said^ Alright, I lied. I'm not 100% naked.

    I'm wearing socks....and only socks... icon_twisted.gificon_twisted.gif
    But... Socks get in the way.

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    How dare you question my logic.

    And just like that... Thread jacked.


    But off topic - it is the perfect "confused" animated gif... I am confused - is it a boy? is it a girl? or is it a Pat and that's that?

    Please return to the topic of nudity already in progress...
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    Sep 07, 2012 8:42 AM GMT
    ConQuest said
    Trollileo said
    yourname2000 said
    Trollileo said
    MuchMoreThanMuscle said^ Alright, I lied. I'm not 100% naked.

    I'm wearing socks....and only socks... icon_twisted.gificon_twisted.gif
    But... Socks get in the way.

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    How dare you question my logic.

    And just like that... Thread jacked.


    But off topic - it is the perfect "confused" animated gif... I am confused - is it a boy? is it a girl? or is it a Pat and that's that?

    Please return to the topic of nudity already in progress...

    OMG thats Miranda she's hilarious you mustnt get her show in the US.
    now back to naked men wearing socks
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    Sep 07, 2012 10:12 AM GMT
    You need to check your local ordinances. In my city, until a few years ago, there was no law against being nude in public as long as there was nothing lewd about it. You could have legally walked down any street totally nude without breaking the law. Few people knew about that, however, until a local male resident began walking around nude in his front yard (which had a low fence) and neighbors complained. Attempts were made to charge him with lewd conduct but I don't know if he was actually prosecuted or not. A new ordinance was passed and, yes, you could be prosecuted for being nude in your back yard unless it was well hidden.
  • booboolv

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    Sep 07, 2012 10:20 AM GMT
    You can pull whatever you want in my backyard
  • kew1

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    Sep 07, 2012 1:45 PM GMT
    yourname2000 said
    northoz said
    yourname2000 said
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    OMG thats Miranda she's hilarious you mustnt get her show in the US.
    now back to naked men wearing socks

    What's the show?


    The show's called Miranda , she's Miranda Hart
  • MichaelG

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    Sep 07, 2012 2:23 PM GMT
    In Ohio you could not only be arrested but labeled a sex offender for the rest of you life. This goes for a man urinating in public. If someone sees it and make a complaint it is breaking the law. Pretty unbelievable!!!! But true.
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    Sep 07, 2012 2:32 PM GMT
    Watch dem hedge clippers...jus sayin...
  • FRE0

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    Sep 07, 2012 8:19 PM GMT
    sublook4top saidYou need to check your local ordinances. In my city, until a few years ago, there was no law against being nude in public as long as there was nothing lewd about it. You could have legally walked down any street totally nude without breaking the law. Few people knew about that, however, until a local male resident began walking around nude in his front yard (which had a low fence) and neighbors complained. Attempts were made to charge him with lewd conduct but I don't know if he was actually prosecuted or not. A new ordinance was passed and, yes, you could be prosecuted for being nude in your back yard unless it was well hidden.


    Actually, it is well hidden except from rooftops. And, people are not ordinarily on their rooftops except for maintenance and repair activities.
  • jayatl56

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    Sep 07, 2012 8:28 PM GMT
    Remember the guy who was arrested for standing naked at his kitchen window as a mother and her child cut across his lawn? They saw him and called the police. He fought it and won, if I remember correctly because she was on his property. Had she used the sidewalk she probably would not have seen him. But it begs the question of what privacy do we really have in our own homes? I would tell the OP to be careful being naked in a neighborhood. While some people laugh it off, there are others who are sensitive and offended and might call the cops. He might want to talk to the neighbor, especially if he knows him/them well and apologize if he saw anything that was offensive.

    P.S. I have a fairly private balcony and I enjoy going out naked in the morning with my morning coffee. Sometimes I'll take my notebook and work there. There are so many trees no one can see in and I'm on the 4th floor so no visibility from the street. I love being naked any time I can.
  • FRE0

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    Sep 07, 2012 8:29 PM GMT
    MichaelG saidIn Ohio you could not only be arrested but labeled a sex offender for the rest of you life. This goes for a man urinating in public. If someone sees it and make a complaint it is breaking the law. Pretty unbelievable!!!! But true.


    Probably there would be situations in which the law would not be upheld by the courts. For example, someone could be using binoculars to look into a back yard from an airplane and file a complaint upon seeing someone nude. Or, someone could use a ladder to see over someone's privacy fence and report seeing someone nude. I very much doubt that such cases would be upheld by the courts.

    Decades ago my father told me about a case in which a complaint caused people at a nudist camp to be arrested for nudity. The judge threw the case out of court because the person who complained had to go through considerable trouble to see into the camp.

    My situation was somewhat grayer. People do occasionally climb onto their roofs to do repair or maintenance work which is legitimate and not for the actual purpose of looking into neighbors' otherwise private yards. And, obviously we know that that will sometimes occur.

    On a related subject, it seems strange that people who commit a sex offense have to register for life as sex offenders whereas people who commit a burglary do not have to register for life as burglars. It seems to me that the law should be more consistent.
  • FRE0

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    Sep 07, 2012 8:42 PM GMT
    jayatl56 saidRemember the guy who was arrested for standing naked at his kitchen window as a mother and her child cut across his lawn? They saw him and called the police. He fought it and won, if I remember correctly because she was on his property. Had she used the sidewalk she probably would not have seen him. But it begs the question of what privacy do we really have in our own homes? I would tell the OP to be careful being naked in a neighborhood. While some people laugh it off, there are others who are sensitive and offended and might call the cops. He might want to talk to the neighbor, especially if he knows him/them well and apologize if he saw anything that was offensive.


    On the other hand, that might put into the mind of the neighbor that there might be something to complain about when previously he had not considered that possibility. Sometimes it is best to let sleeping dogs lie, but it is not always possible to be sure that that is the best response.

    The neighbor is in his middle 60s. When he was young, physical education classes were segregated by gender and commonly boys were exposed naked to each other as they changed clothes and showered together. Commonly they also swam naked in school swimming pools. Men swam naked at YMCAs. Thus, people who were in school before about the middle 1970s are less likely to be concerned about nudity than younger people are.

    When I lived in San Diego (1978 - 1994), a neighbor let his very young children play naked in the front yard. Since I saw them there several times, apparently many people did not find it disturbing although I did because I felt that it put the children at risk. I also heard that the same neighbor worked naked on his car, but in the garage. No one seemed disturbed by that either, but California is different from New Mexico.
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    Sep 07, 2012 11:17 PM GMT
    yourname2000 said
    northoz said
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    OMG thats Miranda she's hilarious you mustnt get her show in the US.
    now back to naked men wearing socks

    What's the show?


    Miranda is her name and the name of the show, I think it was the BBC? not sure some UK TV company. She's now on a new show "Call the Midwives
  • Webster666

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    Sep 08, 2012 2:57 AM GMT
    In San Francisco, it's legal to be completely naked, in public.
    So, it's certainly legal on my own property.
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    Sep 08, 2012 3:12 AM GMT
    FRE0 saidJust a few minutes ago, I was in my back yard nude, doing some weeding. When I heard something, I looked up and saw that my neighbor was on his roof working on his evaporative cooler. Unless people are on their roofs, which is uncommon, no one can see into my back yard.

    Do I have to worry about being arrested?

    Should I call my attorney to be prepared?


    If your neighbor finds it offensive, which many folks probably would, especially if they have small children, you probably would not meet a charge of public indecency, but, rather, disturbing the peace, lewdness, or indecent exposure. If your neighbor can view it without concerted effort, it's likely not protected behavior.

    At some point, you need to let common sense and a sense of decorum guide you.

    Just because you're in the backyard, it's not entitlement to behave poorly.

    Many, many, many, folks would consider your behavior over the top.

    There's what's called a "community standard" which judges use to gauge the behavior. I don't imagine it's protected in your area.

    If you are genuinely concerned, you need to research this. Google is very useful. Try searching for private property nudity in your area, or simply call local law enforcement. It's a simple question to resolve.
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    Sep 08, 2012 3:14 AM GMT
    Is there no poison ivy in Albuquerque?
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    Sep 08, 2012 3:17 AM GMT
    So you can all carry over sized guns around shoot people if they try and enter your property, but cant walk around how nature intended?

    I cant wait to get there and see what the US is really like. So many strange customs and ideas.
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    Sep 08, 2012 3:19 AM GMT
    northoz saidSo you can all carry over sized guns around shoot people if they try and enter your property, but cant walk around how nature intended?

    I cant wait to get there and see what the US is really like. So many strange customs and ideas.


    It's a "Christian" country. Religious nuts have their quirks..in every country.
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    Sep 08, 2012 3:20 AM GMT
    Here's the first article that pops up on Google.

    http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2887/is-it-indecent-exposure-if-im-visibly-naked-while-on-my-own-private-property
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    Sep 08, 2012 3:21 AM GMT
    northoz saidSo you can all carry over sized guns around shoot people if they try and enter your property, .



    umm, not really
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    Sep 08, 2012 3:23 AM GMT
    The Post Office could stop your mail service over it. LOL.

    http://wreg.com/2012/05/16/postal-workers-dont-want-to-deliver-to-nudists/
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    Sep 08, 2012 3:25 AM GMT
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    FRE0 saidJust a few minutes ago, I was in my back yard nude, doing some weeding. When I heard something, I looked up and saw that my neighbor was on his roof working on his evaporative cooler. Unless people are on their roofs, which is uncommon, no one can see into my back yard.

    Do I have to worry about being arrested?

    Should I call my attorney to be prepared?


    If your neighbor finds it offensive, which many folks probably would, especially if they have small children, you probably would not meet a charge of public indecency, but, rather, disturbing the peace, or lewdness.

    At some point, you need to let common sense and a sense of decorum guide you.

    Just because you're in the backyard, it's not entitlement to behave poorly.

    Many, many, many, folks would consider your behavior over the top.

    There's what's called a "community standard" which judges use to gauge the behavior. I don't imagine it's protected in your area.

    If you are genuinely concerned, you need to research this. Google is very useful. Try searching for private property nudity in your area, or simply call local law enforcement. It's a simple question to resolve.

    Love ya, Chucky, but if his neighbours have their small children on their roofs, then the police already have their work cut out for them....or maybe you missed how private FRE0's backyard is. icon_smile.gif

    Yes people have a right to "community standards". But many, many communities also have nudists and nude beaches and other such facilities. People also have a right to fair use of their own property; on a property such as FRE0's, it would seem reasonable to have an expectation of privacy. He's not flashing elementary kids from his street facing livingroom window after all...to say one couldn't nude sun bath (or whatever) in such a secluded setting on private property is not that far a stream from saying someone can't walk naked in their own home and can only be undressed in their bedrooms or bathrooms.


    My 2 bits, anyway.


    Note that I said "concerted effort." Note, also, that views vary across the country. Many folks would consider it offensive, private property, or not.

    The easiest thing is to ask local law enforcement or a local attorney.

    Sensibility and the law are often quite different things.
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    Sep 08, 2012 3:27 AM GMT
    Here's an example, that applies even in California...

    Indecent Exposure

    California law defines indecent exposure as any person who makes their private parts visible in any public place or in any place where there are people who may be offended or annoyed.


    Read more: California Laws on Backyard Nude Sunbathing | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/facts_7861416_california-laws-backyard-nude-sunbathing.html#ixzz25qTN43F1

    I.e, if you're pissing folks off, you need to knock it off, no matter what the law.

    Just because you're on private property you can't blast your stereo. That's charged under disturbing the peace. Ask any college kid who has lived in a loud house.

    At some point, common sense needs to prevail.
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    Sep 08, 2012 3:28 AM GMT
    desertmuscl said
    northoz saidSo you can all carry over sized guns around shoot people if they try and enter your property, .



    umm, not really


    Tongue in cheek matey. icon_cool.gificon_wink.gif
  • FRE0

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    Sep 08, 2012 5:10 AM GMT
    chuckystud

    The easiest thing is to ask local law enforcement or a local attorney.

    Sensibility and the law are often quite different things.


    Local law enforcement? If I were to 'phone the local police department, probably I'd be told that they do not give legal advice. The local DA's office probably would say something similar. A local attorney would probably provide an opinion, after researching for several hours at perhaps $200 per hour.