Handicap showers

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  Aug 17, 2007 2:49 PM GMT

  okay, another rant. why is it that guys use the handicap shower when they are perfectly able bodied? i think its very rude that just because you want that extra square foot to towel dry your ass you have to make the old dude limping because he tore his ACL and has to stand in the shower you SHOULD be in. i think thats crap, u should be ashamed. and should play in traffic.

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  Aug 17, 2007 3:53 PM GMT

  Beause it makes us feel special.
  And because its nice to have the extra square footage to dry my ass out of sight of the limping "old dude" that's been lurking in the lockerroom waiting to get his jollies rather than showering.
  ;^)

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  Aug 17, 2007 3:57 PM GMT

  aero? I'm shocked ;)

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  Aug 17, 2007 4:02 PM GMT

  My parents were shameless about getting all the "handicapped" perks they could, as soon as they were eligible. Even when it would have been good for them to walk a little extra. My sister-in-law is shameless about borrowing mom's "handicap" permitted van to go shopping. It drives me crazy.
  On the other hand, due to state law, more than half of the parking space at the town store is dedicated to handicapped spaces that are always empty. Half the time you have to park on the highway.
  
  

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  Aug 17, 2007 4:20 PM GMT

  That bugs me as well. We actually have three handicapped accessible showers and changing areas, and I sometimes see people use them that are not handicapped in the least.
  
  Well, maybe a bit dense in the head, but not handicapped at all.

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  Aug 17, 2007 4:45 PM GMT

  For me, it's all about balance. My gym doesn't have separate shower stalls, so handicap status is about the toilet stalls. I won't use the handicap one if there's another one not being used, or if there's a handicapped guy close enough to the front of the line that it looks like he'd be waiting when I finished. I will, on the other hand, use it if that's the only one open and there isn't a handicapped guy close to the front of the line.
  
  There are basically three possibilities I see in this shower situation:
  
  1) The guy is either clueless as to why that stall is larger, or a jerk, and deserves to be scorned.
  
  2) The guy has some non-obvious handicap, like maybe he has bad arthritis or a heart condition and wants to be near the safety bars.
  
  3) The handicapped guy wasn't there when he got in the shower stall, so he didn't think he was causing any problem.

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  Aug 17, 2007 4:51 PM GMT

  I just like being able to bring a drinks trolley in is all. It may seem selfish, but think of all the vintners who would be unemployed if I kowtowed to disability lobbying groups.

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  Aug 17, 2007 5:31 PM GMT

  Aero: "...And because its nice to have the extra square footage to dry my ass out of sight of the limping "old dude" that's been lurking in the lockerroom waiting to get his jollies rather than showering...."
  
  Oh, darn, you saw me...
  
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  Aug 17, 2007 6:02 PM GMT

  my friend told me i was jealous. maybe a little but if ALL the showers are open (which they usually are) i'll still use those. these guys always use the handicapp shower...i think tomorrow i'll ask them if they're handicapp is that they're retarded.
  
  
  besides, my luck would have it that if i did use the handicap stall, i would get reported by the lurking limper

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  Aug 17, 2007 7:15 PM GMT

  That's quite inconsiderate to the disabled members at the gym and reveals a lack of respect on the part of the meatheads. Not saying you should be their "mommy" but honestly, the deserve a look for that shit.

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  Aug 17, 2007 7:27 PM GMT

  I have never, ever, seen a wheelchair, or walker, or blind man's walkingstick at my current (or past) gym. Ever. Add to that the fact that I insist on avoiding the place during peak hours, et voila, showering in the big stall and taking up the entire bench in the little dry-sauna staring at the ceiling for 20 minutes or more, completely GUILT_FREE.
  =D

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  Aug 17, 2007 7:32 PM GMT

  Many here seem to look upon handicap showers and toilets as an entitlement.
  
  As a business owner that has never been my intention.
  
  We provide a certain number of facilities on a first come first served basis, it does no good for facilities to be wasted unused waiting for someone who might be handicapped to come along.
  
  If there is a line of people waiting for the regular facilities, I see no reason why a handicapped person should not be able to wait a few minutes in line for similar accomodated service.
  
  The intention was originally to provide accomodative service to those who need it, not preferential service.
  
  Parking spaces are a seperate issue because of the width of typical spaces, etc; as well as State laws.
  
  Is it rude to take the handicap facility if there is someone there who may need it? YES.
  
  Is it rude to use the handicap facility if there is a line for other facilities and the handicap facility is standing unused and available? Absolutely not.
  
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  Aug 17, 2007 8:50 PM GMT

  I agree with ITJock on the matter. If I haven't seen a person that needs to be using the handicap shower and all of the other showers are in use I won't hesitate to use it. Same with the restroom stalls. I only have one person at my Gym that I have seen in a wheelchair or in need of using the shower stall. I think it's a waste of space if other people don't use it.
  
  

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  Aug 17, 2007 9:22 PM GMT

  BINGO.
  
  O, and I ALWAYS use the handicap stall in pubic toilets when its availible - since its usually always at the end of the run, hence in the corner with a side wall, there's plenty of space to drop all my gear and not worry about some creep reaching under and pinching my luggage or whatever else I'm towing. (Its happened.)
  Besides, who doesn't appreciate the higher seat height and the snazzy safety-grips? '^)

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  Aug 17, 2007 9:33 PM GMT

  I would agree with you about the showers, but I think toilets and parking should be strictly for handicap.
  
  The reason I say that the toilets should be strictly for the handicap is, (well have you ever been bursting to go?) well imagine some one in a wheelchair trying to find a toilet. It could take a while, and they could be in a bad way by the time they find one.
  
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  Aug 17, 2007 9:52 PM GMT

  well, this may sound odd but... at the moment my gym doesn't have a single handicapped member, so everyone just uses everything pretty much... the handicapped showers, stalls, and sinks are used by anyone who wants, really.
  
  i mean, that may change, but for now... it's just a bunch of hot young able bodied jocks. :)

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  Aug 17, 2007 10:08 PM GMT

  Like others, I'm fine to use the larger showers if the others are full (it's rare at the time I go), especially if there was no one "of need" that was on the gym floor at the time I left that may want to shower in the next couple of minutes.
  Same situation with the public toilets--last option only.
  Handicapped parking spaces? Don't touch 'em, ever--that's a legal issue.

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  Aug 18, 2007 4:59 AM GMT

  I look fine and people think I'm fine, but I have awfully bad feet. I ususally use the handicap stall in the bathrooms cuz I know once I sit down I will not want to get back up and need the help of the rails. However if there is a visually handicap person I'll let them use it and use one of the other ones. (i say person because there are handicap porta johns)

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  Aug 18, 2007 6:38 AM GMT

  ...um...you guys shower after you work out?...oh lord...now I am going to find out that everyone wears deodorant at the gym also, right?
  
  geez.
  
  - David [smile]

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  Aug 18, 2007 10:14 AM GMT

  i shower before I work out sometimes. Im weird like that. I hate smelling nasty. Just something I have to do.

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  Aug 18, 2007 12:04 PM GMT

  I ALWAYS shower after i work out. ever running hot water is a good soak for your body after a workout. plus i can take as long as i fucking want. i think its nasty when guys don't shower ater a workout. scummers! they clean the showers constantly and for aded protection i wear flip-flops.

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  Aug 18, 2007 3:57 PM GMT

  I work out around the lunch hour, so my co-workers are very pleased that I shower before I return :)
  I haven't started with the flip-flops yet. Explain something, though: you don't wear them INSIDE the shower, do you? I would think that's where most of the gunk is anyway, and it's kind of unavoidable to not comingle with the pooling water there even if you're wearing flip-flops.
  However, I've started bringing my own body wash after someone told me how old and junky the provided dispenser can get!

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  Aug 18, 2007 5:10 PM GMT

  People usually wear flip-flops in the shower while taking a shower and in the locker room to avoid contacting athlete's foot.

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  Aug 18, 2007 5:14 PM GMT

  My gym (Golds-Oakland) is 2 miles from my house. So it's a great jog there and back. This means that I never use the showers there, but I do when I return home.
  
  I think the concept behind the Handicap toilet and shower is not that other people can't use them, but that Handicapped people have priority. I suppose this would become an issue if there were huge lines to get to the toilets or the showers. There aren't, at my gym.
  
  However, as another poster pointed out, it's illegal to park in a Handicapped-signed parking spot, for good reason.
  
  mindgarden, your sister-in-law's behavior is obnoxious, and it would drive me crazy too. :-)

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  Aug 18, 2007 5:16 PM GMT

  Oh, I forgot to add, ChicGymGeek, but I LOVE to have contact with an athlete's foot!!!!
  
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  John

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