Do you think American society is degrading?

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    Sep 23, 2012 4:03 AM GMT
    THis country was made to exapce religious prosecution. after the Revolutionary war, we opened our doors and let the persecuted in without any conflict.

    WE even planned to get rid of slavery the same time that the Declaration of Independance was signed. we only waited 87 years for the southerners to get the feeling that they are being treated evenly. If we wrote "no slavery" on the Declaration of Independance, then the country would have never existed.

    We are a lineage of deciet, so what? many of us don't wanna be here. But where else is there for us??

    No one pays attention to the good things we tried to do, only focus on the B.S.
    that everyone loves to smell.
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    Sep 23, 2012 4:04 AM GMT
    nicodegallo said
    Medjai said
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    FORTRESS saidThe Americans.... think about that...not "The United States"...but...
    THE AMERICANS: the other super power country.

    (Sarcasm) Fear us! We tear down relationships, blow shit up, vanish cities with only a single bomb and corrupt societies with mediocre vocabulary and arrogence.

    I did a research paper about this and people need to stop overgeneralizing; leave that to the scientists. Demographics show only certain parts of the country degrade quicker than others, not as a whole. Ever since the 20th Century we've begun to regress the knowledge we built up for ourselves over our brief existence and began thinking of more superficial feats and idiotic tasks to conquer.

    American's accomplished having "meaningful" conversations in less than 160 characters. Our great gift to the world. icon_cool.gif

    As I mentioned earlier, our great gift to the world was winning the world war, not once, but twice!

    With more collateral damage than any other country. I almost got kicked out of many places in Europe (especially Eastern Europe) when I was mistakenly taken as an American. You guys are not liked on a global scale.

    You're pretty much the bullies of the planet. You want something, you take it. If people are talking nice to you, it's like trying to placate the bully so they don't gt mad at you. I really wonder how Americans are not aware of their global image...

    I never had any problems as an American living in Russia. Although what probably helped was that I spoke Russian pretty well. If anything, Russians probably treated my Chinese and Korean friends more suspiciously.

    I lived there, too. Across from Red Square.

    The guys where........... HOTTTTTTT icon_exclaim.gif

    The clubs.... unbelievable.

    Did you ever go to the gay club with all the water tanks with the naked guys swimming inside??? Ahhhh.... icon_razz.gif

    I don't think I could speak Russian now... but sometimes I still dream in Russian. Makes me feel good when I wake up and realize it's in "there" somewhere. icon_cool.gif
  • Medjai

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    Sep 23, 2012 4:06 AM GMT
    nicodegallo saidI don't know. In my travels I found that most people are a lot nicer than the media like to portray. Of course there are bigots, crazies, radicals, and other bad apples everywhere in the world. But it's pretty easy to ignore those people since they have nothing too valuable to say. I like to think that in the grand scheme of things that my nationality doesn't mean squat in having a good time. If it does then that's their problem.

    True. Most are smart enough to look past the unfortunate nationality to see that there is still fun to be had. Doesn't change the situation as a whole.
  • ohioguy12

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    Sep 23, 2012 5:28 AM GMT
    AMoonHawk said Obviously our society is superior to all the others or people would not keep moving here

    Yep, I agree.
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    Sep 23, 2012 5:43 AM GMT
    Everyone please bow.

    I'm stepping out the room to use the restroom.
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    Sep 23, 2012 5:45 AM GMT
    Iceblink saidEveryone please bow.

    I'm stepping out the room to use the restroom.

    Bow at 45° angle if it’s #1; bow at 90° angle if it’s #2.
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    Sep 24, 2012 10:13 PM GMT
    Boris saidMy 2nd cousin works as a trainer for United Airlines and she told me eye opening stories. She has traveled around the WHOLE world (well, at least wherever United Airlines go to). So anyway the most interesting story she told me was when she had to spend 3 weeks training in Tokyo, Japan.

    When she got off the flight - the trainees were holding a sign with her name and guiding her to the hotel and around the city - ON THEIR DAY OFF! So she comes into class the next day and they all stand up and bow. They stand and bow whenever she leaves the room for anything, bathroom break etc. After the class is over, she stays in the classroom to email a few things here and there and the students were just sitting there. She wondered why? As soon as she got up and left, they all left behind her. She asked her supervisor and they said Japanese culture teaches discipline by respecting the elder and the person in charge. It was definitely culture shock for her but she had the best time of her life in Tokyo.

    So the next month, she has a training class in Fresno, California. Well? She is thinking twice about having children now. Everyone in that class was very disrespectful, rude and inappropriate. They were all in their early to mid twenties (the same age group in Japan). She had such a hard time not only in Fresno but in most cities around America.

    So ask myself, is our society degrading? I know in the past our culture was different and much more respectful but today, it just isn't like that anymore. We do not do much to discipline our children and would rather spoil them.

    Well anyway, I also spoke to a number of foreign people visiting here and they say they kind of feel unsafe being here. I don't blame them since our gun/rap culture destroys our society. Even my supervisors who travel alot, talks about Northern Europe, China and Japan being such a safe place to visit. One of them left their iPhone at a restaurant in Norway and someone took the phone and ran after my supervisor to give it to him. I left my iPhone at the beach in MD and not a single person said anything to me. I had to walk all the way back to my spot from my car just to find it (thank goodness I did and it was around so many people just sitting there).

    While they might be incredibly polite, one thing to know about Japan is how low women are viewed in the corporate world:

  • AMoonHawk

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    Sep 24, 2012 10:29 PM GMT
    I thing being human is degrading ... much better to be a space alien or an elf or vampire, than a degrading human icon_twisted.gif
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    Sep 24, 2012 11:58 PM GMT
    Its that you don't have to be an intellectual genius to work for an airline...

    In the US if you are smart you go places, and if you don't, you work for the airlines.
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    Sep 26, 2012 10:51 PM GMT
    Absolutely. Working in a retail setting dealing with the public really just shows you how shitty people can be. I feel like people here in the US are getting more and more impatient, irresponsible, and lazy every single day. It's really sad.
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    Sep 27, 2012 4:59 AM GMT
    I look up to Japanese culture:

    I'm in my freshman year of college and there is this Japanese exchange student in my dorm building and I know it is hard for an international student to make friends in a new country - especially America. The students here don't give a crap about foreign students and exclude them from social students. So, I started hanging out with him and introduced him to other American students - since that is the point of studying abroad, interact with the local students.

    Also, I helped him understand more English words and helped him edit his essays and read some passages. Last week I was playing with his translator and I noticed how they have instructions on "how to exchanged your business card", "sit for a meeting", "introduce a client". It is all very informative and they highly value cultures and respect.

    *Interesting fact: the Japanese don't use the word "love" AT ALL! They only say "I like you", not even to bfs / gfs or parents!

    i can't wait to possibly visit this summer!
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    Sep 27, 2012 5:13 AM GMT
    I feel most immigrants feel pretty safe since people from all over the world kill to become Americans