Even an attractive guy can turn me off when he ___________.

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    Oct 16, 2012 12:35 AM GMT
    When....... He dont brush his teeth, wipe his ass, or put deordorant on! No one likes cochie breath or hot butt! Stanky ass niga!
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    Oct 16, 2012 12:50 AM GMT
    THE00realmain saidWhen....... He dont brush his teeth, wipe his ass, or put deordorant on! No one likes cochie breath or hot butt! Stanky ass niga!


    icon_lol.gif Oh wow
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    Oct 16, 2012 12:51 AM GMT
    He's mean to other people.
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    Oct 16, 2012 3:01 AM GMT
    Aristoshark said1. Doesn't raise his pinkie when drinking from a wine glass.
    2. Doesn't remove his beanie copter when sitting down to dinner.
    3. Plays the nose kazoo in front of guests in his home.
    4. Bites off his toenails rather than using clippers.

    There's more, but these spring to mind.


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    *Runs home crying from rejection*
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    Oct 16, 2012 7:22 AM GMT
    charlitos said
    Calling me racist for having a racial attraction and sexist for having a gender attraction is not only inaccurate but also misleading, since i have not in any way implied superiority between the genders or races in question. It is 100% sexual attraction and nothing else.


    Well if you recall I specifically said racism/sexism did not require a belief of superiority, just unequal treatment based on race/gender. I clearly cannot talk to your history of sexual attraction for certain races. Even if I could, the fact that you've never been attracted to someone of a certain race still doesn't necessarily make you racist. You might not ever be attracted to someone of that race. Just like an employer who has never hired an Asian might not also be racist. You only cross that line when you discriminate on the basis of race.

    I merely suggested that the discrimination is, in my opinion, acceptable when it comes to gender because there's scientific evidence to suggest sexual orientation is innate and unchangeable. We don't have that sort of evidence for attraction based on race so I feel it's less acceptable to according to race.

    Finally, I'm not suggesting you have to be an equal opportunity dater or anything. Date/Hook up with anyone you want to. Just realize that when you say (or take the approach of) "no Blacks, Asians, Whites, etc," it's as racist as when you put it on a job listing.
  • Rowing_Ant

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    Oct 16, 2012 9:20 AM GMT
    1 smokes
    2 bad breath
    3 annoying laugh.
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    Oct 16, 2012 9:31 AM GMT
    1 smokes....that is all
  • AllAmericanJo...

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    Oct 16, 2012 10:25 AM GMT
    1. Dumb as rocks, brings nothing to conversation
    2. Takes self too seriously, no sense of humor
    3. Hard drugs and commitment-phobia

    Not into it. Boner killer.
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    Oct 16, 2012 11:04 AM GMT
    1. eats worms
    2. talks like Yoda
    3. doesn't know how to use Google
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    Oct 16, 2012 11:04 AM GMT
    lacks humility.
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    Oct 16, 2012 11:34 AM GMT
    1. puts cereal in bowl before milk. Cannot deal with that shit.
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    Oct 16, 2012 11:55 AM GMT
    Smoke or talks excessively with his hands.
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    Oct 16, 2012 12:45 PM GMT
    groundcombat said
    charlitos said
    Calling me racist for having a racial attraction and sexist for having a gender attraction is not only inaccurate but also misleading, since i have not in any way implied superiority between the genders or races in question. It is 100% sexual attraction and nothing else.


    Well if you recall I specifically said racism/sexism did not require a belief of superiority, just unequal treatment based on race/gender. I clearly cannot talk to your history of sexual attraction for certain races. Even if I could, the fact that you've never been attracted to someone of a certain race still doesn't necessarily make you racist. You might not ever be attracted to someone of that race. Just like an employer who has never hired an Asian might not also be racist. You only cross that line when you discriminate on the basis of race.

    I merely suggested that the discrimination is, in my opinion, acceptable when it comes to gender because there's scientific evidence to suggest sexual orientation is innate and unchangeable. We don't have that sort of evidence for attraction based on race so I feel it's less acceptable to according to race.

    Finally, I'm not suggesting you have to be an equal opportunity dater or anything. Date/Hook up with anyone you want to. Just realize that when you say (or take the approach of) "no Blacks, Asians, Whites, etc," it's as racist as when you put it on a job listing.



    There are many scientific studies on racial attraction. However the topic is pretty delicate as you would expect. Such a study would not achieve absolutely anything but to marginalize the race rated the least attractive by a majority. Why anyone would even waste their time on such a study is beyond me, it is unnecessary and again it doesn't achieve absolutely anything good for anybody. Just imagine the title of that paper : "Woman of race X are physically less attractive and more likely to not be able to get man of race Y hard". There have been studies like I said, they just tend to dissapear...obviously. I certainly don't need a study to back up my hard ons, do you think if there was a study saying that race attraction does not exist I will just start getting hard ons the next day or will they just make a pill to fix me?
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    Oct 16, 2012 3:13 PM GMT
    paulflexes said
    meninlove said
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    meninlove said

    ....picks his nose while driving and eats it. That particular date ended at the next stop sign. icon_lol.gif
    What if he waited till he was at the stop sign to eat it?



    There would have still been time to bail, lol.

    If that ever happens again, pretend to be mad at him for not sharing it.


    Haha so hilarious i love u!
  • groundcombat

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    Oct 16, 2012 3:28 PM GMT
    charlitos said
    groundcombat said
    charlitos said

    There are many scientific studies on racial attraction. However the topic is pretty delicate as you would expect. Such a study would not achieve absolutely anything but to marginalize the race rated the least attractive by a majority. Why anyone would even waste their time on such a study is beyond me, it is unnecessary and again it doesn't achieve absolutely anything good for anybody. Just imagine the title of that paper : "Woman of race X are physically less attractive and more likely to not be able to get man of race Y hard". There have been studies like I said, they just tend to dissapear...obviously. I certainly don't need a study to back up my hard ons, do you think if there was a study saying that race attraction does not exist I will just start getting hard ons the next day or will they just make a pill to fix me?


    The studies I've seen don't deny that people have established racial preferences but rather the studies try to explain the origins of those preferences. I haven't seen anything in those studies suggesting that such attraction based on race is innate, meaning essentially racial preferences are learned. Which often means that they can be unlearned or relearned. I'm not villifying you for acting in accordance with learned behavior (your attractions). We all do it in some respects. I'm just encouraging you to not let your learned behavior (attraction) enable racist bahavior (dismissing people based on race).

    I'll concede that I'm close to splitting hairs with you but I think the distinction is important. You're free to not be attracted any person. When you're not attracted to them because of their race, then your learned behavior is enabling racist behavior. Racist behavior is just that regardless of whether its motivated through hate or attraction. Is it any less racist to hire only whites simply because you like whites better?
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    Oct 16, 2012 3:30 PM GMT
    Doesn't know a thing about me, and hates me...
    Isn't smart about how he talks "other people"...
    Hates intelligence, and denies his own to make his world that much more dim...
    Finds wisdom in the fools who put and hold him down...
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    Oct 16, 2012 3:36 PM GMT
    Can't remember my name
    makes my married sister with kids look like a lesbian
    texts during dinner rather than interact with those at our table
    Constantly commands the conversation without you getting in a word in edgewise.
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    Oct 16, 2012 3:48 PM GMT
    Cheap guys.
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    Oct 16, 2012 4:44 PM GMT
    groundcombat said
    charlitos said
    groundcombat said
    charlitos said

    There are many scientific studies on racial attraction. However the topic is pretty delicate as you would expect. Such a study would not achieve absolutely anything but to marginalize the race rated the least attractive by a majority. Why anyone would even waste their time on such a study is beyond me, it is unnecessary and again it doesn't achieve absolutely anything good for anybody. Just imagine the title of that paper : "Woman of race X are physically less attractive and more likely to not be able to get man of race Y hard". There have been studies like I said, they just tend to dissapear...obviously. I certainly don't need a study to back up my hard ons, do you think if there was a study saying that race attraction does not exist I will just start getting hard ons the next day or will they just make a pill to fix me?


    The studies I've seen don't deny that people have established racial preferences but rather the studies try to explain the origins of those preferences. I haven't seen anything in those studies suggesting that such attraction based on race is innate, meaning essentially racial preferences are learned. Which often means that they can be unlearned or relearned. I'm not villifying you for acting in accordance with learned behavior (your attractions). We all do it in some respects. I'm just encouraging you to not let your learned behavior (attraction) enable racist bahavior (dismissing people based on race).

    I'll concede that I'm close to splitting hairs with you but I think the distinction is important. You're free to not be attracted any person. When you're not attracted to them because of their race, then your learned behavior is enabling racist behavior. Racist behavior is just that regardless of whether its motivated through hate or attraction. Is it any less racist to hire only whites simply because you like whites better?


    There are studies that explain that sexual orientation is also not absolute. Meaning you are attracted to a gender more than the other which can be put on a scale from 1 to 10 and no one is on the extremes. The gender you are more attracted to defines your orientation and in the case of someone who can actually sit near the center of the scale he can define him/herself as bisexual.

    You are taking my words as an absolute claim and then building up an argument based on absolutism. Considering that nothing is absolute, relying on this technique to make a point is rather silly.

    Sexual attraction can always be put on a scale for race and gender, so really you are not saying anything new here or particular to either example. Since there is a degree of attraction to everything(obviously), it makes absolute sense that someone who is "less" attracted to race X will need a special type of race X in order to feel attraction while he probably does not require much from race Y to feel the same. It does not mean it is impossible for this person to be ever attracted to X, it is just a lot harder. Same thing happens with gender attraction as I explained before.

    I noticed you have been using your own definition of what "racism" should be in order to label those with racial attraction as racist. If racism to you means anything based on race then absolutely anything is racist and the term racist itself loses value and it cant target those who are racist in a way that they express hate and superiority towards other races. By using the term racism in such a vague way, you are basically drawing the line no where. So first you have to understand what I mean by being racist and then trying to take the argument form there. Abusing the vocabulary without considering the actual social estigma that entails being "racist" is also a pretty weak way to build any argument whatsoever.

    I respect you having an "opinion" but twisting meanings and taking statements as an absolute claim to have an "opinion" makes your opinion not logical.

    Finally and addressing what you said at the end there. Liking "whites better" as in having a preference for white labour force is absolutely racist. Why? Because there is nothing that suggests that other races are less capable of accomplishing the same tasks. So what does "liking" means here? It means you have a social opinion on why you should not hire races that arent white, which also implies a sense of superiority, hence: you are racist. This cant be compared with race attraction because the latter has no social elements to it.
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    Oct 16, 2012 4:52 PM GMT
    1. acts like a woman
    2. is arrogant
    3. is dumb
    4. has no manners at all
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    JR_RJ saidWhen he puts "TL;DR" on an OP that is actually meaningful, important and relevant to even their own lives... icon_rolleyes.gif


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    What's.."TL;DR"? icon_surprised.gif

    TL;DR = Too long didn't read
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    Oct 16, 2012 5:40 PM GMT
    1. smokes
    2. lacks good grammar (aka types "your hot")
    3. has an unsightly tattoo
    4. lacks conversational skills
    5. has flakey tendencies
    6. is a "top only"
    7. (most of what's been said above)
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    Oct 16, 2012 8:37 PM GMT
    charlitos said

    There are studies that explain that sexual orientation is also not absolute.....

    I noticed you have been using your own definition of what "racism" should be in order to label those with racial attraction as racist.....


    Finally and addressing what you said at the end there. Liking "whites better" as in having a preference for white labour force is absolutely racist. Why? Because there is nothing that suggests that other races are less capable of accomplishing the same tasks. So what does "liking" means here? It means you have a social opinion on why you should not hire races that arent white, which also implies a sense of superiority, hence: you are racist. This cant be compared with race attraction because the latter has no social elements to it.


    Okay. I don't contest your assertion that sexual orientation is not absolute. I personally believe that, like you said, everyone is sort of bisexual on a spectrum with some of us more toward straight and others more toward gay. I just think where you fall on that spectrum is largely innate (you're born there) and much less suceptible to change. That's why I feel like it's okay to just be gay and discriminate against women by not entertaining the idea of hooking up/dating/etc.

    As for the definition of racism, it is hotly contested. Some say that racism requires a belief of superiority or hatred to accompany that discimination while others, like me, do not. This is a huge debate but I'm certainly not "making it up." Personally, I find the former hard to adapt as it would not cover what's been called institutionalized racism. I think it's racist if you, for example, hire all whites not because you think others are inferior but because you are more comfortable around white people. Under the hatred/superiority model, it would not be racist and I think that's a problem. But I'll leave that alone as it's an huge ongoing debate in its own.

    To your last point, see above. The previous example is not driven by hatred or superiority. You may think that scenario is okay, but I don't.