Bad Grammar!

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    Oct 18, 2012 4:16 PM GMT
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    Oct 18, 2012 5:35 PM GMT
    ART_DECO saidThere are also style rules that apply to special circumstances. The one with which I'm most familiar is in writing speech copy, aka orator style.

    In order to be easy to read without error from a podium or a prompter the letters are all sans-serif caps, and most words are spelled out fully without abbreviations, and numerals are not used. Modified phonetic spelling is sometimes substituted for words the reader might mispronounce. Example (omitting the typical double line spacing):

    GOOD AFTERNOON, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. I WANT TO THANK DOCTOR SMITH FOR HIS KIND INTRODUCTION, AND FOR HAVING INVITED ME TO SPEAK BEFORE YOU TODAY. I REALIZED LAST NIGHT THAT THIS IS MY TENTH VISIT TO YOUR LOVELY CAMPUS HERE AT NORTH ADAMS STREET, SINCE I FIRST VISITED HERE OVER THIRTY-FIVE YEARS AGO. I HAVE BEEN SURROUNDED BY THESE IMPRESSIVE L-S-U BANNERS SO MANY TIMES BEFORE I BEGIN TO THINK OF MYSELF AS AN AH-LUM LIKE ALL OF YOU.

    And speech copy can be modified and marked-up in any number of ways to suit the speaker, since the product isn't intended as a textual record for others, but rather as a personalized visual aid in delivering a verbal presentation.

    WTF does this have to do with anything? Anything at all?
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    Oct 18, 2012 5:42 PM GMT
    Y u no like way I talks?

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    Oct 18, 2012 5:53 PM GMT
    Cason21000, all Art is saying is that you can get away with breaking grammar rules depending on circumstances; for instance, the text for a speech (all caps) or dialogue in a Mark Twain novel. However, if one is putting something to paper or electronically for public consumption one should use proper standard English (or whatever language being used) grammar in order to be understood, taken seriously, and convey correct meaning.
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    Oct 18, 2012 6:05 PM GMT
    ConQuest saidY u no like way I talks?

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    If English is not your first language I can forgive you a host of grammatical errors. In fact, foreign men speaking broken English (especially with a Spanish accent) are a particular turn on for me. I love listening to my guy (South American) speak English with his sexy accent. Can anyone tell me why he sometimes pronounces the English w like a hard g? Once he was telling me I was "grong" about something when he meant wrong and another time he was telling me about garden worms, but he kept referring to them as "gherms." We laughed our asses of about that one.

    Anyway, spoken grammatical errors are more easily forgivable than written.
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    Oct 18, 2012 6:09 PM GMT
    if the guy is hot i dont care, he can have bad grammar, can misspell everything, i dont give a damn.
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    Oct 18, 2012 6:12 PM GMT
    Life aint no english test bish ! icon_lol.gif
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    Oct 18, 2012 6:14 PM GMT
    whatever3009 saidif the guy is hot i dont care, he can have bad grammar, can misspell everything, i dont give a damn.


    What if he's only semi-hot? Which grammatical incongruences would take priority?
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    Oct 18, 2012 6:15 PM GMT
    Caslon21000 saidWTF does this have to do with anything? Anything at all?

    Having a bad day, Your Majesty?
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    Oct 18, 2012 6:22 PM GMT
    I walked out of my english class in 7th grade and haven't looked back since. Some bitches are just too smart to wait for the rest to catch up.
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    Oct 18, 2012 6:35 PM GMT
    DOMINUS saidNot as much as multiple punctuation marks--for example:

    "Does this bother anyone else as much as it bothers me?!?!"


    "¿Esto molesta a nadie tanto como me molesta?"

    The ?!?! multiple mark denotes exasperation. I believe it the original emoticon. *¿*
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    Oct 18, 2012 6:39 PM GMT
    zakariahzol saidThere was this one guy in Real Jock that told me to stop writing in the forum because of my poor English and bad grammar. He claim that my poor English is affecting his brains and request that I be banned from Real Jock . Another fellow say that I must be drunk or intoxicated while writing. .

    But most people here understand that I am not an English speaker (I speak 3 other language )thus are not expected to write perfect English . Probably you should just ignore , us not native English speaker . After all , nobody is forcing you to read/do anything you dont want to.

    The reason why Real Jock is so intresting is because there are all kind and variety of people in here. Life get more interesting when we are more open to people of different race, nationalites and etc....



    I think I might remember that. I didn't like seeing that at all. Glad for you that you have access to gay sites again in your own country, by the way.
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    Oct 18, 2012 8:03 PM GMT
    I'm not going to berate someone and constantly draw attention to their mistakes if English is not their first language.

    And yes you do have to take into account other factors like background, education, etc. when you're engaging in written communication with a person, but I just do not get why you will say "sup" or "wassup" instead of "what's up" or even the go to "hey". I instantly do not want to start a conversation. Maybe that makes me seem like a total "biotch" but it is how I feel. I can respect that linguistics is a complicated matter, but I just can't get over it.

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    Oct 18, 2012 8:25 PM GMT
    I think that gets to me a little. But it is mostly the guys that can't spell that get to me the most.
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    Oct 18, 2012 8:41 PM GMT
    Please sit beside me.
    My biggest pet peeve, concerning on line communication, is one word "sentences." Are people really that busy that they can't compose a complete sentence ? And, usually, I have to make a guess as to what they're trying to say.
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    Oct 18, 2012 8:45 PM GMT
    Yeah, my Gramma is Baaad!

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    Oct 18, 2012 8:46 PM GMT
    Webster666 saidPlease sit beside me.
    My biggest pet peeve, concerning on line communication, is one word "sentences." Are people really that busy that they can't compose a complete sentence ? And, usually, I have to make a guess as to what they're trying to say.

    What?
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    Oct 18, 2012 9:02 PM GMT
    I hate poor grammar, I'm dyslexic and grammar and spelling in general is something that I have to work particularly hard at to make sure I get it right.

    When people who aren't dyslexic get it wrong I just assume that it's laziness or poor education. It's something that really agrivates me when I have to work so hard at something that a lot of people take for granted and then others just can't be bothered to even try to get right!

    And yes I'm aware that even though I have read through this post there will probably be mistakes that I have missed! Lol icon_redface.gif
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    Oct 18, 2012 9:21 PM GMT
    In this thread we talked about commas and how to used them and so on but what irritates me most is when I read the daily mail online which is a middle class newspaper and try to read comments posted following the main article therefore creating a forum thread by seemly intelligent people yet dont capitalise the first letter of each of their sentences nor use the comma or full stop at all I find this very annoying because it makes reading the comment very difficult indeed especially very long ones yet these comments without any punctuation at all still gets a like vote from the readers by the time I have read the entire comment my eyes are spinning and I develop a headache so please use punctuation where ever its needed because it makes reading and understanding such comments so much easier thankyou
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    Oct 18, 2012 9:26 PM GMT
    dis thred ar teh suck
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    Oct 18, 2012 10:46 PM GMT
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    TennisJock10 saidI blame all those years of AP lit and my current professors haha. It is definitely a pet peeve of mine.
    It was the 4th grade for me. I've been a grammar slut since I was 9.


    Me too. The purpose of grammar is to make the writer's meaning clear.
    Errors which too many people deem "harmless" actually make their meanings ambiguous if not totally misleading. I believe in the unwritten rule that a comma is proper and should be used wherever it clarifies the meaning. Therefore I prefer the comma before 'and' in a series, but I am aware that grammarians differ on this , and thus both ways are deemed acceptable. I therefore make it a practice to read carefully to determine the writer's intent..

    Example: People differ; there are old, young and stupid

    Are there three categories , or is the writer saying that all young people are stupid? The comma makes it clear that there are three categories!

    People are also sloppy with word order, spelling and other punctuation, such as asking a question and omitting the question mark. They don't stop to consider that the reader may see a different meaning. Without using a name or pronoun, a guy asks DDF? and omits the question mark, is he asking, or telling HIS condition? If he's stating his condition, it implies also a request for the reader to give his, but it is too often ignored, even when the question is asked specifically. Courtesy seems to be substantially disappearing in too many quarters icon_sad.gif
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    Oct 19, 2012 12:23 AM GMT
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    Oct 19, 2012 12:26 AM GMT
    oK so basicaly its like this. youare at a friends house for like the night or watever and then you guys are making out on the couch (yeah!) and then like.. her dad calls on the phone and says “no i she likes it more if you use the other hand… yeah” and your alllike “oh dude your dad is trying to give me advice on how to diddle you” and then she’s like… “i don’t have a dad..” or whatever… but what!? WHO WAS PHONE?

    also:

    So ur with ur honey and yur making out wen the phone rigns. U anser it n the vioce is “wut r u doing wit my daughter?” U tell ur girl n she say “my dad is ded”. THEN WHO WAS PHONE?

    Had to post this story only because it makes fun of the people who use bad grammar. *I didn't write this story*
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    Oct 19, 2012 12:27 AM GMT
    Quoting myself from another thread:

    Sorry to all of you who think it too fussy, but the grammar problems are getting to me more and more these days.

    It really is not so much a matter of criticism as wanting to understand readily what guys are trying to say. A little care invested in sentence structure, punctuation and not leaving out essential words gets the message across much more clearly.
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    Oct 19, 2012 12:28 AM GMT
    Got to love the OP's use of "?!?!?!" icon_lol.gif