Romney: Hospital Visitation For Gay Couples Are ‘Benefits’ Not Rights

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    Oct 22, 2012 9:20 AM GMT
    TroyAthlete said
    ASHDOD

    i wrote this becouse i appreciate the usa , its history and contributions for the world



    mmm
    i dont like bibi netaniaho at all ,and i usualy vote the opposite guy [ in the coming elections its a women candidate, im voting for the labor party of shelly yahimovitch]
    about forign policy,or the israely palestinian conflict ,there are no saints here, its our foult and theirs together.
    almost no homlessness in israel
    drug problem, not more then other western countries
    corruption, could be better ,but we r not a 3d world country
    the israely army and israel, who gets money from your taxes ,are also the ones who keep the flow of petrol safly for your car ,if we werent here you would have to be here in very large numbers
    in the rest of the things u said, we r not better or worse then other western countries,our mesures maybe look hard ,but its becouse we are protecting ourselvs
    in gay rights btw , the situacion here is better then lots of the us states.
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    Oct 22, 2012 9:24 AM GMT
    The above-mentioned article, and the original source, talks about Julie Goodridge. Here she is talking about it herself.

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    Oct 22, 2012 11:44 AM GMT
    Scary that non-family hospital visiting rights are benefits as friends are the family for many who are persecuted or outcast from their genetic families. Such archaic bullshit that hasn't evolved past a time when nuclear families were the dominant norm.
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    Oct 22, 2012 12:01 PM GMT
    TheKnockOut saidIt honestly baffles me how people can stand with someone who will deny you your rights. He has no plan. Also I have never seen a candidate flip flop his views so much in my life. He doesnt want to help the middle class....you cant give everyone a tax break across the board and somehow the deficit is cured...doesnt work that way. Also, it lights a fire under my ass when some one on here would deliberately call another guy a fag on here. who is to scared to show his damn face..Real jock is a community of strong minded individuals who have different views some republican or democrat...but your immaturity is not welcome here 07ALPHA


    as long as he "reduces their taxes" they are fine. just ask that curios guy from Arizona.
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    Oct 22, 2012 12:15 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidWow! What a bunch of bogus propaganda that has little basis in fact. Not sure what's more scary --- that the OP would post something so obviously ridiculous, or that some of you people actually believe it. Frankly, I don't care what you believe. It's no accident that "Gay Marriage" was not brought up in any of the debates. Why? Because it so pales in importance in the grand scheme of life as it pertains to the vast majority of Americans with far more pressing issues in their lives that it was not discussed or debated. By all means, vote for whomever you like --- this is your right --- but at least base your vote on facts and vote accordingly.


    Show us your fact checking issues .... I'm not buying your blanket statement.
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    Oct 22, 2012 12:16 PM GMT
    I can't find 007ALPHA's profile on here anymore????
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    Oct 22, 2012 12:48 PM GMT
    Doesn't surprise me at all... the election of Romney would be a horror on a variety of levels....

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    Oct 22, 2012 12:56 PM GMT
    [quote][cite]TroyAthlete said[/cite]
    CuriousJockAZ saidWow! What a bunch of bogus propaganda that has little basis in fact. Not sure what's more scary --- that the OP would post something so obviously ridiculous, or that some of you people actually believe it. Frankly, I don't care what you believe. It's no accident that "Gay Marriage" was not brought up in any of the debates. Why? Because it so pales in importance in the grand scheme of life as it pertains to the vast majority of Americans with far more pressing issues in their lives that it was not discussed or debated. By all means, vote for whomever you like --- this is your right --- but at least base your vote on facts and vote accordingly.



    Everything in the OP was true. CJAZ, a paid Romney operative, is merely here spreading his bullshit right-wing propaganda. Look at what this self-loathing gay scum wants you to believe: that your freedom, equality, and civil rights are not important. Gay Republicans actually believe this. Gay Republicans are the lowest of the low.[/quote]


    Put up or shut up.

    So he is paid? What evidence is there of that?


    I think he is saying that the OP's assessment was wrong.

    Are you so closed minded in that the only way a different opinion can exist in your world is that it is a pay to play one?

    Keep thinking this way, its likely to help you get along with the rest of the worl.
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    Oct 22, 2012 1:19 PM GMT
    Where does Mitt stand on ANY ISSUE? Depends on when/where he answers.

    "Romney Campaign Clarifies, STILL SUPPORTS FEDERAL MARRIAGE AMENDMENT(DOMA)

    UPDATED: Senior campaign adviser Bay Buchanan said last week that the candidate supports states' choices. This afternoon, though, she told BuzzFeed he still supports the amendment proposal. "

    Senior campaign adviser Bay Buchanan----WITH HER ROCKIN' NEW FACE-JOB........kinda serves the purpose that CJAZ does here.

    She's always there to give a soft spin to Mitt's real policies.

    Todd's approach is to ask us to give Mitt the benefit of the doubt.

    GlamourShotsAZ always reminds us not to worry because:

    MITT DOESN'T MEAN A WORD OF WHAT HE SAYS ANYWAY!

    -----which is true.
  • musclmed

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    Oct 22, 2012 1:24 PM GMT
    QUOTE AUTHOR GOES HEREts YOU that is close minded and needs to "put up or shut up."

    Watch the video. That lady was one of the original plaintiffs fighting for same-sex marriage in MA. Her credibility is golden...while CuriousJockAZ (R - Self-hate) has over 16k posts full of lies and distortions, supporting just about any Republican running for office.


    I am responding to accusation that CJAZ is paid. You seem to overlook that. In fact you have nothing but contempt for people who disagree with. So it is really hard to have a conversation.

    As for Romney, he had nearly the identical position that Bill Clinton had at the time. And by the way Barrack Obama
    http://articles.latimes.com/2012/apr/29/nation/la-na-romney-gay-marriage-20120430 . During the race against Kennedy, he told the Log Cabin Republicans that he would "provide more effective leadership than my opponent." He promised to co-sponsor a federal nondiscrimination act and support efforts to allow gays and lesbians to serve "openly and honestly" in the military.
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    Oct 22, 2012 1:27 PM GMT
    JockTheVote saidWhere does Mitt stand on ANY ISSUE? Depends on when/where he answers.


    GlamourShotsAZ always reminds us not to worry because:

    MITT DOESN'T MEAN A WORD OF WHAT HE SAYS ANYWAY!

    -----which is true.



    It is one thing to disagree with someone, it is another thing to make baseless accusations , and make fun of someones appearance.

    Its clear some are not in the mood for a polite conversation.
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    Oct 22, 2012 1:28 PM GMT
    ASHDOD saidthere is somthing so sad about democracy,in a huge important country like the u.s, of 350 milion people, thouse are the only 2 candidates you could find?
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    I thought the same thing.
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    Oct 22, 2012 1:35 PM GMT
    The anti-gay propagandists here try to prioritize having gay hospital visitation rights against "bigger scheme" US issues, like we have to choose between them, with gay issues always coming in last. Or that it's acceptable for the minority to suffer at the hands of the bigoted majority, the very thing Thomas Jefferson spoke against, the "tyranny of the majority" in a democracy that he hoped the US Constitution would help prevent.

    But what is required to have gay hospital visitation rights as a practical matter? Massive programs like those needed to oversee an ailing economy? Lengthy legislative studies and hearings, at the expense of other pressing matters? Or a mere political decision?

    President Obama took the route of ordering DHS to make hospital visitation rights a requirement for receipt of Federal funds. Quick & easy, what Romney wants to reverse, and hand the issue over to the States, which would be cumbersome and inconsistent, and no doubt he hopes result in the denial of those rights to gays in many of the States.

    It's also ironic (if not sickening) to note the very Republicans who would have us believe gay civil rights are too unimportant in the "bigger scheme" of US problems to waste any time upon, themselves rushed to enact conservative social legislation when they first gained legislative majorities in recent elections. They ignored fixing the economy and creating new jobs, instead clogging the legislative process as they fixated on their war on women, war on minorities, and of course, war on gays. (Odd that one of the few things they haven't waged war upon is war itself)

    Where were the Republican priorities for the last several years in Federal & State governments? They certainly weren't on the "bigger scheme" issues that the gay haters here say take priority over gay civil rights, and which justify denying those rights.

    An original goal of the Constitution was to protect individual civil rights, not to limit them, nor to grant them to favored groups, and to the majority at the expense of any minority. But this is the perverted image of the Constitution that Republicans have promoted for many years, and that US citizens are beginning to accept as normal.

    I'm proud that gays are a group that opposes this unconstitutional vision, and if we prevail it will be all Americans who benefit, not just us. And that's a "bigger scheme" that I can believe in.
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    Oct 22, 2012 1:36 PM GMT
    musclmed, GREAT EXAMPLE OF MITT'S FLIPS.

    You write:

    " He promised to co-sponsor a federal nondiscrimination act....

    and support efforts to allow gays and lesbians to serve "openly and honestly" in the military."

    ON BOTH ISSUES HE REVERSED HIMSELF !

    During the primary debates, he stated(convincingly) that he had OPPOSED REVERSING DADT.

    And Now:

    "Romney Campaign Clarifies, STILL SUPPORTS FEDERAL MARRIAGE AMENDMENT(DOMA) "


    Yeah, musclmed, THIS is why no one trusts Mitt.
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    Oct 22, 2012 1:40 PM GMT
    JockTheVote saidmusclmed, GREAT EXAMPLE OF MITT'S FLIPS.

    You write:

    " He promised to co-sponsor a federal nondiscrimination act....

    and support efforts to allow gays and lesbians to serve "openly and honestly" in the military."

    ON BOTH ISSUES HE REVERSED HIMSELF !

    During the primary debates, he stated(convincingly) that he had OPPOSED REVERSING DADT.

    And Now:

    "Romney Campaign Clarifies, STILL SUPPORTS FEDERAL MARRIAGE AMENDMENT(DOMA) "


    Yeah, musclmed, THIS is why no one trusts Mitt.



    DADT, a Clinton initiative had politicians on both sides moving back and forth on. YAWN> Prop 8 in California was defeated despite Obamas' election. Largely because he opposed it. Yawn Yawn.

    you are not addressing the clear challenge that I threw down. The challenge that you disagree with someone and mock them. It is real mature.
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    Oct 22, 2012 1:47 PM GMT
    TrentzCuriousJockAZ (R - Self-hate) is obviously a paid right wing operative. He has no other visible means of support and spends endless hours...over 16,000 posts...in an unfriendly environment, lying & distorting on behalf of Republicans.

    Oh yeah, you do the same thing, except you don't lie & distort as well as CuriousJockAZ (R - Self-hate), and have only a fraction of the posts. Your distortions above are a lame attempt to cover-up Romney's horrible record on gays. Pure amateur work, and easily blasted away by the video below.



    Only in the strange world of Rj, can anyone feel free to post a baseless accusation over and over again.


    I have no connection with any "operatives" but I would advise them to spend their money more wisely. It would be completely wasted here on RJ.
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    Oct 22, 2012 1:47 PM GMT
    Generally, republicans are evil. Mittens is even more so and if you are voting for him and you are not a billionaire, you are an idiot.
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    Oct 22, 2012 2:13 PM GMT
    TroyAthlete said
    CJAZ, a paid Romney operative, is merely here spreading his bullshit right-wing propaganda.


    In a single sentence you make it quite clear as to how truly clueless you are. Apparently, you're a graduate of the Art_Deco school of Delusion. Congratulations! Like him, you've become irrelevant.

    NEXT! icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Oct 22, 2012 2:47 PM GMT
    A friend of mine who is republican, while ribbing me about politics--about which most of my republican friends know not to discuss with me--said that he'll be voting against my civil rights. He used those words in the same discussion where he invited me to stay with him for a few days on my upcoming visit there.

    We've been friends since 4th grade and now I don't know if I'd be comfortable in his home. This sucks.
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    Oct 22, 2012 2:56 PM GMT
    theantijock saidA friend of mine who is republican, while ribbing me about politics--about which most of my republican friends know not to discuss with me--said that he'll be voting against my civil rights. He used those words in the same discussion where he invited me to stay with him for a few days on my upcoming visit there.

    We've been friends since 4th grade and now I don't know if I'd be comfortable in his home. This sucks.



    He actually used those exact words..."I'll be voting against your civil rights"? Even if he were kidding, that probably wasn't the best choice of words to say to a friend who is gay. Regardless, you've been friends since 4th Grade. Surely, he didn't mean it quite as mean-spirited as it may have been taken. I assume you allow your friends to have their own opinion and vote however they choose and not make their vote all about YOU.

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    Oct 22, 2012 3:21 PM GMT
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    theantijock saidA friend of mine who is republican, while ribbing me about politics--about which most of my republican friends know not to discuss with me--said that he'll be voting against my civil rights. He used those words in the same discussion where he invited me to stay with him for a few days on my upcoming visit there.

    We've been friends since 4th grade and now I don't know if I'd be comfortable in his home. This sucks.



    He actually used those exact words..."I'll be voting against your civil rights"? Even if he were kidding, that probably wasn't the best choice of words to say to a friend who is gay. Regardless, you've been friends since 4th Grade. Surely, he didn't mean it quite as mean-spirited as it may have been taken. I assume you allow your friends to have their own opinion and vote however they choose and not make their vote all about YOU.



    Can you get any more ridiculous CAZ?

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    "He actually used those exact words..."I'll be voting against your civil rights"?
    D'oh, what, you think theantijock is lying, or are you inferring he has a problem hearing?

    Secondly this:

    "Surely, he didn't mean it quite as mean-spirited as it may have been taken. I assume you allow your friends to have their own opinion and vote however they choose and not make their vote all about YOU."

    At one time you stated loudly here that you hate the word retard etc due to a disabled sister. Now let's say some friend of yours was going to vote for a candidate that promised removal of rights for your sister. He tells you he's voting against your sister's civil rights.
    Haha, he's kidding. icon_rolleyes.gif




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    Oct 22, 2012 3:32 PM GMT
    meninlove said
    Can you get any more ridiculous CAZ?

    "
    "He actually used those exact words..."I'll be voting against your civil rights"?
    D'oh, what, you think theantijock is lying, or are you inferring he has a problem hearing?

    Secondly this:

    "Surely, he didn't mean it quite as mean-spirited as it may have been taken. I assume you allow your friends to have their own opinion and vote however they choose and not make their vote all about YOU."

    At one time you stated loudly here that you hate the word retard etc due to a disabled sister. Now let's say some friend of yours was going to vote for a candidate that promised removal of rights for your sister. He tells you he's voting against your sister's civil rights.
    Haha, he's kidding. icon_rolleyes.gif


    I wasn't suggesting at all that he was "lying"...I merely asked for clarity if they actually said those words "I'll be voting against your civil rights" or did the friend simply say he was voting for Romney. It just seemed a strange choice of words for the friend to say to his gay friend -- even if he were kidding.
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    Oct 22, 2012 3:34 PM GMT


    CAZ, go back and re-read theantijock's post, in particular where he said, "He used those words..."

    OK?
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    Oct 22, 2012 3:35 PM GMT
    TrentZ said

    Go back to 1930's Germany and ask yourself if a self-respecting person of Jewish ancestry would remain friends with a "nice Christian" who told him he supports Hitler, even though it's "against your civil rights." You know the answer.



    Using this as a basis for your argument is utterly absurd. Comparing Hitler ( responsible for the death of millions of Jews) to people who vote Republican completely obliterates any chance for you to be taken seriously.
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    Oct 22, 2012 3:38 PM GMT
    meninlove said

    CAZ, go back and re-read theantijock's post, in particular where he said, "He used those words..."

    OK?



    In that case, as I said, it was a strange (and not at all funny) choice of words for the friend to use.