Is homosexuality a choice?

  • AMoonHawk

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    Oct 23, 2012 9:40 PM GMT
    UndercoverMan saidMy mother had four children with the same man. The eldest was a daughter the remaining three were males. The oldest (me) is gay as is the youngest. The jury is still out on the middle son. LOL!

    There is only thirteen months between my sister and me. Maybe my mother's system was still awash with female hormones. I don't care the reason. I like being gay and wouldn't change it.

    If you are looking to find out if they are gay or not ... I'd be happy to assist if you would like to arrange a little meeting between each of us (separately of course) icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif
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    Oct 23, 2012 9:40 PM GMT
    It's a choice in the same way that hair color, skin color, height, etc. are choices.

    If your born with blond hair, you can dye it black if you wish, but you are still blond.The only choice is how you act upon it and whether you accept it or not. But like the hair dye analogy, you can spend your entire life presenting yourself as heterosexual and if you do it long enough, you will believe it. Yet, there is no amount of belief that will change a fact. All it does it create ever more powerful denials of self, through circular logic and self referencing 'facts'.
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    Oct 23, 2012 9:42 PM GMT
    Be gay, be proud! icon_smile.gif
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    Oct 23, 2012 9:45 PM GMT
    boring question boring reply
    NO
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    Oct 23, 2012 9:54 PM GMT
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    Oct 23, 2012 9:55 PM GMT
    no
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    Oct 23, 2012 10:49 PM GMT
    Playing Devil's advocate, imagine being gay is a choice. Why does it matter? Why would being born gay make homosexuality more acceptable to dissenters?

    Humans have the amazing ability to rationalize anything so long as the end product of their "logic" is the same as their starting opinion. Therefore, they use the argument that homosexuality is an immoral decision in order to justify their position. It is my supposition, however, that even if there existed conclusive scientific evidence that proved homosexuality was a born trait, dissenters would still adopt a philosophy from which they could find justification for the denial of equal rights. In essence, birth or choice is a non-issue.

    Speaking strictly from my viewpoint as a US citizen, I think the broader issue is that there is a part of our citizenry, who has in no way infringed upon the rights and safety of others, that is being denied equal rights and protections within our boarders. Furthermore, the government has been unwilling to prevent and often promulgates such oppression.

    What we are witnessing is essentially apartheid in 21st century America. With the issue of choice aside, clearly the status quo is untenable by any interpretation of the constitution. This hypocrisy that is so pervasive in our judicial and legislative systems, and indeed our very culture, is inherently dangerous because it undermines the precedence that ALL men are created equal, which we as Americans have given so much uphold.

    Please bear in mind that I am NOT saying that homosexuality is a choice. I am simply saying that ethically and legally it should not matter.
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    Oct 23, 2012 10:56 PM GMT
    It's naive to think that all men are created equal when u have guys on RJ posting "WHITES ONLY" or "no Asians", "no blacks". But that's another thread....
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    Oct 23, 2012 10:57 PM GMT
    Trollileo said
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    Isn't that the scientific method?



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    Oct 23, 2012 10:58 PM GMT
    spgem saidIt's naive to think that all men are created equal when u have guys on RJ posting "WHITES ONLY" or "no Asians", "no blacks". But that's another thread....


    Sexual selection is not the same as racism. That is all. icon_neutral.gif
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    Oct 23, 2012 11:00 PM GMT
    spgem saidIt's naive to think that all men are created equal when u have guys on RJ posting "WHITES ONLY" or "no Asians", "no blacks". But that's another thread....


    It's not naive at all. One issue deals with sexual attraction/personal preference. The other with institutionalized discrimination. The two have not one thing to do with another. I find tall men more attractive than short men. That's my preference. What I can not and will not do is say short people and tall people should be treated differently under our laws.
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    Oct 23, 2012 11:18 PM GMT
    spgem saidHas anyone seen "Is Homosexuality a Choice?" on YouTube? Pretty interesting & funny cartoon. In it they state that 70% of twins are both gay. And they also did a study involving families with many siblings: the more sons a mother has the likelier the youngest son will be gay because her body sees a male fetus as a foreign body so it tries to feminize the male fetus with antibodies. The more sons she has the better her body gets used to feminizing the male fetus. Pretty interesting don't u think? Check it out & express ur thoughts icon_smile.gif


    There is a severe bias issue, about considering homosexual as men with 'more feminine traits'.

    I don't say that hormone unbalance during pregnancy can't lead to men born with less testosterone impacted build up, and I don't know if there is a link between that and where you stand when adult on the straight/gay scale.

    But I do know that homosexuality is about sexual attraction for men, and it doesn't necessary mean bending toward the fem side.

    All studies who try to explain homosexuality through hormone balance during pregnancy should explain why there is a significant number of homosexual showing all the characteristics of high testo build (muscle mass, body hair, voice, aggressiveness etc...).

    If masculinity/femininity for men is see as a scale, like gay/straight, I think both gay and straight range all over it.


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    Oct 23, 2012 11:24 PM GMT
    more importantly, was your dog's sweater a choice?

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    Oct 23, 2012 11:27 PM GMT
    Lol thx JJWW icon_smile.gif One of my favorite pics of my pom Dnero as a puppy!! icon_smile.gif I go to BABY GAP & get my poms matching baby sweaters, jackets & vests when they're on sale for $5 or $6!! Martha Stewart eat ur heart out! icon_smile.gif
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    Oct 23, 2012 11:32 PM GMT
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    Oct 24, 2012 4:37 AM GMT
    Thx for pointing that out minox icon_smile.gif
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    Oct 24, 2012 4:53 AM GMT
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    Oct 24, 2012 4:57 AM GMT
    yes it is, i decided since i was 3 months that i wanted to be gay!!icon_surprised.gif
  • Medjai

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    Oct 24, 2012 5:02 AM GMT
    bgcat57 saidIt's a choice in the same way that hair color, skin color, height, etc. are choices.

    If your born with blond hair, you can dye it black if you wish, but you are still blond.The only choice is how you act upon it and whether you accept it or not. But like the hair dye analogy, you can spend your entire life presenting yourself as heterosexual and if you do it long enough, you will believe it. Yet, there is no amount of belief that will change a fact. All it does it create ever more powerful denials of self, through circular logic and self referencing 'facts'.


    Except those are genetic factors. We've even identified the exact alleles that code for those. Can we do the same or sexuality? No, because there's no evidence to say its genetic.

    Why is this so difficult?
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    Oct 24, 2012 5:04 AM GMT
    Everything in life is a choice. Being straight is a choice. Being a male is a choice now n days. Hahaha surgery bitches! Get ur dick cut up to a vagina haha.

    No but seriously ppl... Its a choice! We control our own lives! Freedom bitches!
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    Oct 24, 2012 5:12 AM GMT
    I still say Clint Walker in his prime made me gay & I'm sticking to it, lol! icon_smile.gif
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    Oct 24, 2012 5:40 AM GMT
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    Hahaha love it!
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    Oct 24, 2012 8:59 AM GMT
    DoNotTumble saidtumblr_mbcgzvkJHg1qebtcj.gif


    Every time this gif is put on the forum I look at it and wonder why the caption says, "Computer says no", when it is clear that he/she is saying, "Computer says yes.

    Just like this question about choice. There is no clear answer. Many genes are not realized. For example, you may have a gene for a preponderance of lung cancer but that does not mean you will get lung cancer. Sexuality is a very complicated trait and I doubt if the scientists will ever find one gene that gives a person a preponderance for being gay. So, if that were true, in a sense, it would be a choice because at some point a person choices to come out of the closet and live the life of a gay person. It is the circumstances in the environment that lead a person to make that choice after the realization that they have sexual feelings for the same sex.
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    Oct 24, 2012 1:40 PM GMT
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    Oct 24, 2012 1:43 PM GMT
    pharmstudent saidIn the 19th century, it was thought, mainly by the psyc society, homosexuality was a mental disorder. But they dropped that claim and apologized. Today, the question is seen through evolutionary biology and genetics.

    For example, one argument- It is clear gays don't participate in procreation, for obvious reasons, which means gays cannot pass their genetic makeup mainly their gayness (for lack of words) to the next generation. Therefore homosexuality should've gone extinct centuries ago. But, I can assured you its still present. Thus, its genetics; to be more specific your mother carries the gay gene or hormone a.k.a x-linked disorder.


    There is no gay gene.