musclmed said1)we need to give amnesty for indivduals brought here under the age of 18 who attended school in the US. Those individuals however cannot be allowed to bring in or be a "Anchor baby" for relatives who are illegal. --- We cannot fault minors for being undocumented but cannot reward adults
You say no "anchor babies," but what about the kids who are still under 18? Do we still deport their parents, and therefore the kids themselves (defeating such a Dream Act-type of amnesty)? Or would we want to throw them into the foster care system (if there aren't relatives who are legally here and are willing to and can afford to take care of them)? Is separating children from their parents such great thing? And what about the kids when they are 18? Do we expect them to fend for themselves? Yes, they are legally adults, but how many 18 year olds are able to fend for themselves 100% without some form of help from their parents, particularly if they are trying to attend higher education?
This is the problem already faced by families in which the children are born in the US and are therefore US citizens, but the parents are here illegally. How do we not add to the problem with a Dream Act-type of amnesty like you mention above added to the mix?
If you go with the premise that children under 18 came under no fault of their own, then essentially rubber stamp the illegal act by giving the same amnesty to the parents this will be a never ending problem.
In my initial post the parents have their own paths to becoming legal by establishing that they have lived in the country for 4 years. Many "undocumented minors" live with extended nuclear families. 1 minor could anchor 1-2 dozen undocumented adults.
my post above:
"2)Undocumented adult individuals that can prove that they for more than 4 years have paid property or other taxes, had car insurance, attended school or had employment , or are domestic partners or married ( to establish they were actually HERE can be eligible for green cards)".
This would also cover the "18 year old" that need their parents. If said 18 year old was in school, was employed and actually IN THE COUNTRY.
The "anchor baby" needs to stop. Because what it does is endorse illegal activity. And for those that are transient / back and forth between countries cannot qualify for amnesty.
What I propose is that most of the people who actually are here would be able to stay. The opportunist illegal that comes and goes and is not integrated into society well just needs to leave.
I should have added we need to sunset the Anchor baby. If a family has a baby in the US and are not legal residents that baby is not automatically a citizen going forward.
So it sounds like your Dream Act-type solution is also dependent on the undocumented parents getting their situation in order as well. But if these adults are allowed to remain, doesn't it make sense that their children would as well regardless of anything like the Dream Act?
I don't see how one child can necessarily equal 1-2 dozen legally anchored adults. 2 parents max should be enough for a child.
Finally, RE: Your last paragraph: That would require amending the US Constitution. That's NOT going to happen.
Well if a child was in school for more than 4 years, it stands to reason that the parent or guardian would also hold legitimate holdings in the US for 4 years. We can debate what counts but, paying taxes ( property) renting , paying utilities showing that you are a integral part of society would allow a path to residency.
I disagree with granting the parents just because a child is granted amnesty. Presumably the child is with his /her parents. So one child does not automatically grant 8 adults of a family amnesty.
So it really isnt a dream act. A minor is given its own exemption ( being in school) that adults cannot enjoy.
If you are an adult and illegal and going to school " and that is all you do", IMHO that is stealing from American college students. It is completely different that coming for a job or to escape oppression. There are mechanism to get a student visa, if you start off thumbing your nose at US law , take advantage of our tax payer school system then get in line with the others that wish entry into the country.
To boil it down anyone wishing to get amnesty has to prove that they actually lived and participated in the US.
Just being related to someone who can get amnesty isnt enough. You need to prove you are integrated to society.
Currently a child cannot sponsor someone for legal residency unless they are 21. I agree with that.