ASIAN and the issue about interracial relationship...

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    Nov 19, 2012 7:59 AM GMT
    Jay1922 saidIt's really quite disheartening to watch so many Asian guys make this topic over the years.

    Yes racism exists. Yes gay men can be racists. But that doesn't mean all men of that certain group, in this case white/Caucasian men will find you unattractive.

    You have to put your best self forward, and that means having confidence in yourself because that's probably the sexiest attribute anyone can have.

    Likewise, all you asian guys need to expand your freaking horizon. I see all this complaining about how white guys don't like you, how about trying out latinos, and african americans or dare I say even other asians. You can't expect white guys to suddenly embrace asians, when you can't do the same.


    I agree with this. I can't tell you how many other Asian men I've been attracted to, but they will only fuck/date/talk to White men.

    As far as being confident goes, that's a tough one. Asian men do suffer from appearance deficits compared to Black, White and Hispanic men. I personally know and/or often see Asian men well into their thirties who look like effeminate high school students and most of these guys are not even gay, at least not to my knowledge.

    Anyway, it's just a cruel blow of genetics and evolution is my guess.... Not a lot is gained by bitching about how White guys don't want us unless they're fat and old. Just deal with it.....buy some good dildoes, learn how to masturbate creatively, develop other interests besides dating and sex and who knows, maybe the right guy will come along and either he'll sweep you off your feet, or you'll sweep him off his.
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    Nov 19, 2012 8:07 AM GMT
    All these negativity in this thread, I say let's plaster this with beautiful Asian guys!
    Let me start.

    Here's one I really fancy, he's half-Filipino, half-British.
    Name's Andrew Wolff.

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    Nov 19, 2012 8:08 AM GMT
    Smegmatron said
    Jay1922 saidIt's really quite disheartening to watch so many Asian guys make this topic over the years.

    Yes racism exists. Yes gay men can be racists. But that doesn't mean all men of that certain group, in this case white/Caucasian men will find you unattractive.

    You have to put your best self forward, and that means having confidence in yourself because that's probably the sexiest attribute anyone can have.

    Likewise, all you asian guys need to expand your freaking horizon. I see all this complaining about how white guys don't like you, how about trying out latinos, and african americans or dare I say even other asians. You can't expect white guys to suddenly embrace asians, when you can't do the same.


    I agree with this. I can't tell you how many other Asian men I've been attracted to, but they will only fuck/date/talk to White men.

    As far as being confident goes, that's a tough one. Asian men do suffer from appearance deficits compared to Black, White and Hispanic men. I personally know and/or often see Asian men well into their thirties who look like effeminate high school students and most of these guys are not even gay, at least not to my knowledge.

    Anyway, it's just a cruel blow of genetics and evolution is my guess.... Not a lot is gained by bitching about how White guys don't want us unless they're fat and old. Just deal with it.....buy some good dildoes, learn how to masturbate creatively, develop other interests besides dating and sex and who knows, maybe the right guy will come along and either he'll sweep you off your feet, or you'll sweep him off his.


    Your opinions are very questionable and they are so negative. Why harbor such negativity for someone your age? At least be kind to yourself and have some decent thoughts lol......
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    Nov 19, 2012 8:10 AM GMT
    Genuinity said
    Smegmatron said
    Jay1922 saidIt's really quite disheartening to watch so many Asian guys make this topic over the years.

    Yes racism exists. Yes gay men can be racists. But that doesn't mean all men of that certain group, in this case white/Caucasian men will find you unattractive.

    You have to put your best self forward, and that means having confidence in yourself because that's probably the sexiest attribute anyone can have.

    Likewise, all you asian guys need to expand your freaking horizon. I see all this complaining about how white guys don't like you, how about trying out latinos, and african americans or dare I say even other asians. You can't expect white guys to suddenly embrace asians, when you can't do the same.


    I agree with this. I can't tell you how many other Asian men I've been attracted to, but they will only fuck/date/talk to White men.

    As far as being confident goes, that's a tough one. Asian men do suffer from appearance deficits compared to Black, White and Hispanic men. I personally know and/or often see Asian men well into their thirties who look like effeminate high school students and most of these guys are not even gay, at least not to my knowledge.

    Anyway, it's just a cruel blow of genetics and evolution is my guess.... Not a lot is gained by bitching about how White guys don't want us unless they're fat and old. Just deal with it.....buy some good dildoes, learn how to masturbate creatively, develop other interests besides dating and sex and who knows, maybe the right guy will come along and either he'll sweep you off your feet, or you'll sweep him off his.


    Your opinions are very questionable and they are so negative. Why harbor such negativity for someone your age? At least be kind to yourself and have some decent thoughts lol......


    It's called "dealing with reality". As the guy who posted above me said, "denial does not equate to confidence" or something like that.
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    Nov 19, 2012 8:19 AM GMT
    Kel_ saidAll these negativity in this thread, I say let's plaster this with beautiful Asian guys!
    Let me start.

    Here's one I really fancy, he's half-Filipino, half-British.
    Name's Andrew Wolff.

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    This is the problem.....He's half British. Most of the guys that Gay guys find hot who are "Asian" are usually half White. The rest of us who are full-blooded Asians (and "chinky-looking" as the less politically correct would describe us) don't have the benefit of having half of our genetics come from the White/European genetic pool so a lot of us look as we do and we put up with a lot of ostracism from the Gay population. That's just the way it goes and that doesn't mean that I'm bitter or angry.

    And as a side note, in Asia, people who are of mixed parentage, even if one of their parents is White, are often ostracized by whatever particular Asian culture they have the misfortune in which to find themselves unless they find some way to capitalize on their Eurasian appearance, usually in the entertainment industry. How many half-White, half-Asian full-time, permanent employees will you find at Samsung, Sony, Panasonic or LG? Probably zero or almost zero.
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    Nov 19, 2012 8:22 AM GMT
    All I can say is I will pray for you.......even if I am not a Christian. Do you hate or think asian that ugly?............I am not sure what happened to your life in the past but you have my sympathy. If you refus to change your mind set then when you get old there will be some more nightmares for you.

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    Nov 19, 2012 8:31 AM GMT
    This is the problem.....He's half British. Most of the guys that Gay guys find hot who are "Asian" are usually half White. The rest of us who are full-blooded Asians (and "chinky-looking" as the less politically correct would describe us) don't have the benefit of having half of our genetics come from the White/European genetic pool so a lot of us look as we do and we put up with a lot of ostracism from the Gay population. That's just the way it goes and that doesn't mean that I'm bitter or angry.

    And as a side note, in Asia, people who are of mixed parentage, even if one of their parents is White, are often ostracized by whatever particular Asian culture they have the misfortune in which to find themselves unless they find some way to capitalize on their Eurasian appearance.


    LMAO biggest bullshit ever. I don't know where you got the idea that just because a guy is half-white, or whatever half he is, is automatically attractive. I think it's based solely on the person's perspective (not the subject.)
    And ostracized? Really? I have several "mixed" relatives of all culture (Japanese, German, Italian, yeah, my family tends to spread around the globe) and we all are accepting to one another. Never have I met anyone outside the family who thinks its unacceptable to be mingling of other ethnic background.

    And I'm sorry, but adding in an insult of "chinky looking" is just plain offensive. Maybe you had the misfortune of having bad experience growing up, but you sound like the OP.. taking generalization into accounts and basing it on your own experience.

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    So how do you explain me? I'm full-blooded Asian, and yet, people assume I'm mix. Guess I didn't have the typical Asian features huh. Like the "chinky looking" that you suggest.
    Mother Maya just blesses me with beautiful features. Thank you Mother Maya, may the everlasting wonder of your brilliance shine upon us eternally.

    I feel sorry for you man, just as Genuinity states, you need to be more accepting of your own culture, or others for that matter.
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    Nov 19, 2012 8:37 AM GMT
    Genuinity saidAll I can say is I will pray for you.......even if I am not a Christian. Do you hate or think asian that ugly?............I am not sure what happened to your life in the past but you have my sympathy. If you refus to change your mind set then when you get old there will be some more nightmares for you.

    Benevolence God please give this man a road to salvation.......AMEN icon_cool.gif


    No, actually the nightmares have all passed. I try do deal with the world as it really is and not some hippie-liberal, new-age fantasy world where we are all beautiful and worthy regardless of our backgrounds or our outward appearances. I don't believe that world exists.

    The nightmares occurred when I shoved myself out of the closet and into the Gay world only to realize that so many Gay men really don't want anything to do with Gay Asian men including Gay Asian men themselves. I appreciate your prayers.

    Salamat po.
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    Nov 19, 2012 8:42 AM GMT
    Smegmatron said
    Kel_ saidAll these negativity in this thread, I say let's plaster this with beautiful Asian guys!
    Let me start.

    Here's one I really fancy, he's half-Filipino, half-British.
    Name's Andrew Wolff.

    This is the problem.....He's half British. Most of the guys that Gay guys find hot who are "Asian" are usually half White. The rest of us who are full-blooded Asians (and "chinky-looking" as the less politically correct would describe us) don't have the benefit of having half of our genetics come from the White/European genetic pool so a lot of us look as we do and we put up with a lot of ostracism from the Gay population. That's just the way it goes and that doesn't mean that I'm bitter or angry.

    And as a side note, in Asia, people who are of mixed parentage, even if one of their parents is White, are often ostracized by whatever particular Asian culture they have the misfortune in which to find themselves unless they find some way to capitalize on their Eurasian appearance, usually in the entertainment industry. How many half-White, half-Asian full-time, permanent employees will you find at Samsung, Sony, Panasonic or LG? Probably zero or almost zero.


    You have a nice body especially for your age. Maybe your location has something to do with it? As far as effeminate goes that's not an ideal quality, but Asians who look young into their 30's is a plus IMO.

    I think Asians are beautiful in general, and when they mix with ANY RACE it creates an extremely beautiful child. Asian + Black or Asian + White or Asian + Spanish... A lot of Asians have high cheek bones, smaller frames, and smooth skin; these traits blend beautifully with other races.

    I'm 100% Asian and I've been hit on by younger white guys. I admit the "not into Asians" or "I block more Asians than the Great Wall of China" can be hurtful to read, BUT there are plenty of guys that realize Asians can be masculine, handsome, and attractive.

    Again age affects everyone and weight is something you can control. Asian females get cast as exotic, BUT Asian males have been stereotyped as puny, effeminate, or strange. It's not fair and it may be a current reality BUT we can change the way we are perceived.
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    Nov 19, 2012 8:53 AM GMT
    Kel_ said
    This is the problem.....He's half British. Most of the guys that Gay guys find hot who are "Asian" are usually half White. The rest of us who are full-blooded Asians (and "chinky-looking" as the less politically correct would describe us) don't have the benefit of having half of our genetics come from the White/European genetic pool so a lot of us look as we do and we put up with a lot of ostracism from the Gay population. That's just the way it goes and that doesn't mean that I'm bitter or angry.

    And as a side note, in Asia, people who are of mixed parentage, even if one of their parents is White, are often ostracized by whatever particular Asian culture they have the misfortune in which to find themselves unless they find some way to capitalize on their Eurasian appearance.


    LMAO biggest bullshit ever. I don't know where you got the idea that just because a guy is half-white, or whatever half he is, is automatically attractive. I think it's based solely on the person's perspective (not the subject.)
    And ostracized? Really? I have several "mixed" relatives of all culture (Japanese, German, Italian, yeah, my family tends to spread around the globe) and we all are accepting to one another. Never have I met anyone outside the family who thinks its unacceptable to be mingling of other ethnic background.

    And I'm sorry, but adding in an insult of "chinky looking" is just plain offensive. Maybe you had the misfortune of having bad experience growing up, but you sound like the OP.. taking generalization into accounts and basing it on your own experience.

    I feel sorry for you man, just as Genuinity states, you need to be more accepting of your own culture, or others for that matter.


    I'm kinda getting tired here of responding to posts so I'll make it simple. Even though your family and everyone you know may be accepting of mixed race Asian/White people, Asian people, etc., in Asia the mixed race are often ostracized. They will generally not be able to have a political career in Asia unless it's one of the more open-minded Southeast Asian countries such as the Philippines, etc. They will not be able to get permanent, full-time, life-time employment in a corporation such as those which I mentioned in my post above.

    As far as accepting my own culture, I come from a country (in Asia) where it is a sin to be different. Do you honestly think I should fucking have to accept that???

    You need to get a clue as to what really goes on in Asia before you go spewing your self-righteous "I love Asia" and "I love being Asian" crap to me. I looked at your profile and you look mostly White to me and you've probably had the benefit of growing up in a Western country where your Caucasian ancestry helped you out whereas if you had been completely Asian, you might have had a different experience.

    The fact that there are so many discussion threads on this website started by Asians wondering why White guys don't want to fuck them should tell you something right there....again, get a clue. Anyway, I'm tired and I'm going to bed.

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    Nov 19, 2012 8:59 AM GMT
    LOL

    I'm white now apparently, guess I should tell my parents I'm not their child anymore. This is going to break my mother's heart. Oh well, time to find my real biological "white" parents!
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    Nov 19, 2012 1:17 PM GMT
    Personally I think Asian guys are fucking adorable. I would date one if they wereinterested in me. But honestly very few of them seem to like black guys. They all go for either white guys or other Asians.
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    Nov 19, 2012 1:54 PM GMT
    Jay1922 saidIt's really quite disheartening to watch so many Asian guys make this topic over the years.

    Yes racism exists. Yes gay men can be racists. But that doesn't mean all men of that certain group, in this case white/Caucasian men will find you unattractive.

    You have to put your best self forward, and that means having confidence in yourself because that's probably the sexiest attribute anyone can have.

    Likewise, all you asian guys need to expand your freaking horizon. I see all this complaining about how white guys don't like you, how about trying out latinos, and african americans or dare I say even other asians. You can't expect white guys to suddenly embrace asians, when you can't do the same.


    LISTEN TO THIS SEXY BEAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I feel that many people don't understand the irony of being frustrated that someone is not attracted to their race when they themselves cannot find their race attractive. There's a bit of self loathing and self esteem issues that they carry as baggage and will most likely sabotage their own chances at relationships

    As much as i'd like to beat this thought into their heads this is something that recognizing intellectually is not enough. They have to believe it in their hearts and that's something they have to open up to.
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    Nov 19, 2012 2:02 PM GMT
    why all the asian threads always start with white guys icon_eek.gif
    where's latino , black , middle eastern .... ?

    If you think these guys above arent attractive , please dont ever ask why some white guys dont even give you a look.

    a quote from Jay1922 , this is very true.
    You can't expect white guys to suddenly embrace asians, when you can't do the same.
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    Nov 19, 2012 2:23 PM GMT
    RuggedRanger15 saidI honestly cant explain it. Im just not attracted to asian guys... Or any other race for that matter. I like white guys. Wish i wasn't so picky but its all in my head and there's nothing i can do about it.


    Unnecessary...
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    Nov 19, 2012 8:38 PM GMT
    I mostly agree with Smegmatron. I know his outlook comes off as bitter and angry, and the things he has to say are tough to read. But he has a solid grasp on reality. Think it's too negative? Tough. Sugar-coating the truth doesn't help anyone.

    When many gay Asian men (the ones who chase White men exclusively, then cry when they're consistently rejected) face some hard facts, the better prepared they will be to deal with it and move on:

    Fact: In Western countries, attractive physical male features are those commonly found in Caucasian men and/or generally lacking in Asian men.

    Things like tall stature, muscular build, strong jawlines, facial and body hair, blond hair, and light-colored eyes are less common in "full-blooded" (I use the term loosely) Asian men living in the West. (Yes, exceptions do exist...just look at some of the Asian guys here on RJ!)

    Fact: Asian men in the US have historically been emasculated and desexualized in American media - a media trend that still exists to this day.

    It's one thing to be underrepresented in media. It's another thing when the few chances for representation are given to non-Asian men and/or the roles being either asexual and/or comedic. A recent blog post entitled, "Psy and the Acceptable Asian Man" covers this phenomenon more extensively using the recent Gangnam Style viral hit as an example.

    http://www.racialicious.com/2012/09/20/psy-and-the-acceptable-asian-man/

    You can imagine the effects this has on the self-image of Asian men:
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    Fact: Young fit gay White men are generally attracted to the same.

    Those who do branch out to other races generally extend their preferences to Latino and Middle Eastern men. (Again, exceptions do exist)

    It is entirely possible to be aware of these facts and have a positive self-image. I think what Keith773 has to say in this old post hits the nail on the head...
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/551171

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    Nov 19, 2012 8:41 PM GMT
    Asian men make the best looking drag-queens tho. with their hairless bodies and generally petite frames
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    Nov 19, 2012 8:59 PM GMT
    Import saidAsian men make the best looking drag-queens tho. with their hairless bodies and generally petite frames


    ujelly
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    Nov 19, 2012 9:14 PM GMT
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    Import saidAsian men make the best looking drag-queens tho. with their hairless bodies and generally petite frames


    ujelly


    He's totes jelly. Damn Neanderthals!
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    Nov 20, 2012 12:28 AM GMT
    Kel_ saidAll these negativity in this thread, I say let's plaster this with beautiful Asian guys!
    Let me start.


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    Nov 20, 2012 12:59 AM GMT
    I love to have me these Asians. And im Asian. So there! icon_surprised.gif

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    Nov 20, 2012 1:01 AM GMT
    ...I mean 2 me....I'm mostly attracted 2 Asian guys (just a pref)...but I c it the opposite way...all the Asian guys I like r into white boys T-T
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    Nov 20, 2012 1:04 AM GMT
    ive never met an attractive asian guy. Most are just PLAIN UGLY!

    Now if I ever did meet a HOT asian guy, yeah I'd go for it, but until then, my flavor is vanilla.
    -No I don't hate myself nor am I ashamed of being asian. I just havent seen any GOOD LOOKING asian guys...
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    Nov 20, 2012 1:13 AM GMT
    [quote]Gay white guys seek acceptance on one level: orientation
    Gay minorities seek acceptance on two levels: orientation and culture

    For a minority, if a white guy accepts you, you're socialized to feel closer to the epicenter of mainstream culture that you see on tv and in theaters. (Having been there and back, I can tell you that true validation is created from within. It's far better to create your own epicenter by surrounding yourself with really good people, regardless of race or orientation, or the boundaries of your comfort zone.[/quote]

    There is something about this that resonates with me.

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    Nov 20, 2012 1:32 AM GMT
    It is all coming down to media. Most people like exotic stuff just to see what they are like, regardless what race you are. Look has to be decent for them to consider trying it out.

    When two different cultures lives together:
    -Short term is all about lust
    -Long term is uncertain if there isn't much with commonality