Sometimes I envy straight people

  • MadeinMich

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    Dec 02, 2012 7:54 PM GMT
    Cash said
    MadeinMich said
    Cash said
    MashogaNubianPrince said
    Cash said
    MashogaNubianPrince said
    Cash saidOP - Yer problem is not with the Gay Community. Your problem is with the VERY tiny amount of life You have experienced.

    You claim to be a writer. If You ever hope to write something interesting You will have to experience MOAR than the local bar and the 40 or 50 people in Your Recent Call List.

    Surely someone who wishes to tell great stories knows that there is a WHOLE WORLD out there to be experienced????

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    When I have a car I get out. I've been around I just don't get out often now because I dont have a car anymore so I stay stuck in where I'm at.


    Perhaps your next book should be a Book Of Excuses.

    That seems to be your strongsuit....


    I'm not making excuses I'm just being honest.


    NO -- you are looking for sympathy...and justification.

    AND you know it..

    Lets face facts. You are over-weight and not in very good condition.

    You are a good looking Guy.

    But you are putting yourself in a context that is innappropriate.
    And then have the audacity to complain about it.

    AND YOU KNOW IT.




    Why do people like you have to come in and hi jack a well thought out post by calling him out on his weight. judging by his profile he knows he's over weight and is doing something about it. I've seen the problem he is articulating in his OP reiterated time again by men of various body types on RJ. It has nothing to do with his weight.


    People like Me?

    What exactly is that.???

    It is NOT a well thougt out post btw.

    And nothing was hijacked.

    I addressed Him.

    Period.

    I have ZERO probs with Guys who are over-weight.

    I have probs with Dudes who bitch they don't get enuff attention from other Guys ...





    As in people who start bitch fights on RJ forums when its uncalled for. He's just simply articulating something on his mind and all of a sudden the claws came out.

    I happen to think he's making a good point, and that his point is well thought out. Everthing isn't peaches and cream in the gay community and he was just expressing that in his post, instead of giving an "aren't we all great and special because we're gay" post. I didn't see any evidence of MashogaNubianPrince indicating he was looking for sympathy. If he were this post would have been another " why don"t (fill in the blank) guys want to fuck me?"
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    Dec 02, 2012 7:57 PM GMT
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    MadeinMich said"Like I was saying with women its more about mental and emotional attraction and also how you approach it. "


    I find this to be true.


    Its easier to connect with women mentally. Its the reason why most of my friends are women or very effeminate men.


    It is also the reason you will remain alone


    Cha' know I fins it very ironic someone who looks like you is trying to tell me about why I'm alone. No offense but you look like what many gay men want. I'm sure there was a period when you didn't but you do now. And as an older gentlemen I would think you would understand how people can be incredibly shallow and not let you pass the gate.

    You're a white middle class man telling men that the society isn't the problem but I'm the problem. You are the society.
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    Dec 02, 2012 7:57 PM GMT
    I envy straight people for the superior position they have in US society and in law, compared to gays. But I don't envy their lifestyle, much prefer my own.

    Oh, and I envy other gays, who came out much younger than me. I deeply regret my "lost" years.
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    Dec 02, 2012 8:01 PM GMT
    Cash said
    MadeinMich said
    Cash said
    MashogaNubianPrince said
    Cash said
    MashogaNubianPrince said
    Cash saidOP - Yer problem is not with the Gay Community. Your problem is with the VERY tiny amount of life You have experienced.

    You claim to be a writer. If You ever hope to write something interesting You will have to experience MOAR than the local bar and the 40 or 50 people in Your Recent Call List.

    Surely someone who wishes to tell great stories knows that there is a WHOLE WORLD out there to be experienced????

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    When I have a car I get out. I've been around I just don't get out often now because I dont have a car anymore so I stay stuck in where I'm at.


    Perhaps your next book should be a Book Of Excuses.

    That seems to be your strongsuit....


    I'm not making excuses I'm just being honest.


    NO -- you are looking for sympathy...and justification.

    AND you know it..

    Lets face facts. You are over-weight and not in very good condition.

    You are a good looking Guy.

    But you are putting yourself in a context that is innappropriate.
    And then have the audacity to complain about it.

    AND YOU KNOW IT.




    Why do people like you have to come in and hi jack a well thought out post by calling him out on his weight. judging by his profile he knows he's over weight and is doing something about it. I've seen the problem he is articulating in his OP reiterated time again by men of various body types on RJ. It has nothing to do with his weight.


    People like Me?

    What exactly is that.???

    It is NOT a well thougt out post btw.

    And nothing was hijacked.

    I addressed Him.

    Period.

    I have ZERO probs with Guys who are over-weight.

    I have probs with Dudes who bitch they don't get enuff attention from other Guys ...





    I wasn't bitching. I was just saying how there seems to be more straight people willing to hang in there when its rough than there are gay men.
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    Dec 02, 2012 8:02 PM GMT
    Threads always turn out this way.

    Some guy who is having a hard time, makes a post contemplating the culture of the gay sexual market place and it is immediately met with

    "straight people do that too"

    "something is wrong with you"


    But I would take this more seriously if I ever heard it from a non white guy with more that 12% body fat.


    If MNP lost weight, then he would be Edward, and homos would treat him the same way that they do now.

    That's not a problem with him, it's a problem with US.

    Gay people never accept responsibility for any of the cultural currents in the gay community and it amazes me.
  • MadeinMich

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    Dec 02, 2012 8:02 PM GMT
    MashogaNubianPrince said
    BRoss saidOkay here's my 2 cents on this topic.
    Generally I do believe that women are much less superficial than men are. If you think about it, why else is the image of women in the media such a debate all the time? Men have made it that way (or at least have paved it that way from the beginning).
    You have colloquial terms of hot women dating ugly men, but you won't really hear of such things as a hot guy dating an ugly girl because face it, he'd be given sh*t for it by his mates.

    My cousin is getting married soon and but a year and a half ago I distinctly remember such a cool conversation I had with her. Another relative had just gotten married at the time and we were just having one of those deep and meaningful conversations with each other. I asked her if she would marry this guy since some of my other cousins were saying crap like "oh she could do so much better, he's ugly" etc (no surprise, it was the male cousins).
    She said yes and in some way the remarks about his looks lightly came into conversation. One of the things she said to me that really stood out was:

    "You know, it's not like a think "he's hot" when I think of him, but the thing is he is so kind, so thoughtful and treats me very well. How he makes me feel is what actually get's me really attracted to him"

    I'm not kidding, that was verbatim (at least almost) because I saved what she said on my phone as a draft message all those years ago because I thought it was so beautiful.
    So in short, yes definitely there are going to be straight women who are just as superficial as men, but the majority is vastly different. Again, why is it socially "cooler" for guys to sleep around but women are branded "sluts" all the time.

    In the gay world, for homosexual men the superficialness is definitely more prevalent and if you honestly think it's not, you surely are kidding yourself.
    Not that I'm saying there aren't gay men who aren't that superficial, but honestly for most men in general, they won't even bother trying to discover someone's personality if they at first don't fit the "look" they want.

    I know alot of people here will generally say 'personality over looks', but be honest with yourself, how likely is it that you would bother trying to discover someone's personality if you honestly thought that person's physical looks were "unattractive"?

    I think that's the predicament here. I feel that when someone says they envy the straight world in relation to this topic, I often think it's because women generally do give a guy the time of day to scope their personality even if they didn't find them particularly attractive at first sight, and they are more open to doing this than men are.
    I'm sure gay men, and men in general also do prioritise personality highly as well, just moreso in the long run and not so much at the immediate point of first contact.

    Anyway those are just my thoughts and I do apologise for it being long. I'm not saying what I think is the fact of reality and I also do apologise if I have offended people in any way. Of course I didn't mean to do that, I just thought to try give insight into what I'm thinking the OP was trying to allude to.


    PREACH IT SHUG!


    Who in the hell is this guy? That was insightful as hell. The OP couldn't had said it better!!!!
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    Dec 02, 2012 8:06 PM GMT
    DEKIRUMAN saidThreads always turn out this way.

    Some guy who is having a hard time, makes a post contemplating the culture of the gay sexual market place and it is immediately met with

    "straight people do that too"

    "something is wrong with you"


    But I would take this more seriously if I ever heard it from a non white guy with more that 12% body fat.


    If MNP lost weight, then he would be Edward, and homos would treat him the same way that they do now.

    That's not a problem with him, it's a problem with US.

    Gay people never accept responsibility for any of the cultural currents in the gay community and it amazes me.



    What do you mean?
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    Dec 02, 2012 8:06 PM GMT
    MadeinMich said
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    BRoss saidOkay here's my 2 cents on this topic.
    Generally I do believe that women are much less superficial than men are. If you think about it, why else is the image of women in the media such a debate all the time? Men have made it that way (or at least have paved it that way from the beginning).
    You have colloquial terms of hot women dating ugly men, but you won't really hear of such things as a hot guy dating an ugly girl because face it, he'd be given sh*t for it by his mates.

    My cousin is getting married soon and but a year and a half ago I distinctly remember such a cool conversation I had with her. Another relative had just gotten married at the time and we were just having one of those deep and meaningful conversations with each other. I asked her if she would marry this guy since some of my other cousins were saying crap like "oh she could do so much better, he's ugly" etc (no surprise, it was the male cousins).
    She said yes and in some way the remarks about his looks lightly came into conversation. One of the things she said to me that really stood out was:

    "You know, it's not like a think "he's hot" when I think of him, but the thing is he is so kind, so thoughtful and treats me very well. How he makes me feel is what actually get's me really attracted to him"

    I'm not kidding, that was verbatim (at least almost) because I saved what she said on my phone as a draft message all those years ago because I thought it was so beautiful.
    So in short, yes definitely there are going to be straight women who are just as superficial as men, but the majority is vastly different. Again, why is it socially "cooler" for guys to sleep around but women are branded "sluts" all the time.

    In the gay world, for homosexual men the superficialness is definitely more prevalent and if you honestly think it's not, you surely are kidding yourself.
    Not that I'm saying there aren't gay men who aren't that superficial, but honestly for most men in general, they won't even bother trying to discover someone's personality if they at first don't fit the "look" they want.

    I know alot of people here will generally say 'personality over looks', but be honest with yourself, how likely is it that you would bother trying to discover someone's personality if you honestly thought that person's physical looks were "unattractive"?

    I think that's the predicament here. I feel that when someone says they envy the straight world in relation to this topic, I often think it's because women generally do give a guy the time of day to scope their personality even if they didn't find them particularly attractive at first sight, and they are more open to doing this than men are.
    I'm sure gay men, and men in general also do prioritise personality highly as well, just moreso in the long run and not so much at the immediate point of first contact.

    Anyway those are just my thoughts and I do apologise for it being long. I'm not saying what I think is the fact of reality and I also do apologise if I have offended people in any way. Of course I didn't mean to do that, I just thought to try give insight into what I'm thinking the OP was trying to allude to.


    PREACH IT SHUG!


    Who in the hell is this guy? That was insightful as hell. The OP couldn't had said it better!!!!


    Lol he said everything I was trying to say and a little more.
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    DEKIRUMAN saidThreads always turn out this way.

    Some guy who is having a hard time, makes a post contemplating the culture of the gay sexual market place and it is immediately met with

    "straight people do that too"

    "something is wrong with you"


    But I would take this more seriously if I ever heard it from a non white guy with more that 12% body fat.


    If MNP lost weight, then he would be Edward, and homos would treat him the same way that they do now.

    That's not a problem with him, it's a problem with US.

    Gay people never accept responsibility for any of the cultural currents in the gay community and it amazes me.



    What do you mean?


    You get mistreated on this site a lot Edward. You are a good-looking man with a humungous penis and a lot of guys are never going to recognize that unless you fit into the small box of features that gays have designated as ideal.
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    MadeinMich said
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    BRoss saidOkay here's my 2 cents on this topic.
    Generally I do believe that women are much less superficial than men are. If you think about it, why else is the image of women in the media such a debate all the time? Men have made it that way (or at least have paved it that way from the beginning).
    You have colloquial terms of hot women dating ugly men, but you won't really hear of such things as a hot guy dating an ugly girl because face it, he'd be given sh*t for it by his mates.

    My cousin is getting married soon and but a year and a half ago I distinctly remember such a cool conversation I had with her. Another relative had just gotten married at the time and we were just having one of those deep and meaningful conversations with each other. I asked her if she would marry this guy since some of my other cousins were saying crap like "oh she could do so much better, he's ugly" etc (no surprise, it was the male cousins).
    She said yes and in some way the remarks about his looks lightly came into conversation. One of the things she said to me that really stood out was:

    "You know, it's not like a think "he's hot" when I think of him, but the thing is he is so kind, so thoughtful and treats me very well. How he makes me feel is what actually get's me really attracted to him"

    I'm not kidding, that was verbatim (at least almost) because I saved what she said on my phone as a draft message all those years ago because I thought it was so beautiful.
    So in short, yes definitely there are going to be straight women who are just as superficial as men, but the majority is vastly different. Again, why is it socially "cooler" for guys to sleep around but women are branded "sluts" all the time.

    In the gay world, for homosexual men the superficialness is definitely more prevalent and if you honestly think it's not, you surely are kidding yourself.
    Not that I'm saying there aren't gay men who aren't that superficial, but honestly for most men in general, they won't even bother trying to discover someone's personality if they at first don't fit the "look" they want.

    I know alot of people here will generally say 'personality over looks', but be honest with yourself, how likely is it that you would bother trying to discover someone's personality if you honestly thought that person's physical looks were "unattractive"?

    I think that's the predicament here. I feel that when someone says they envy the straight world in relation to this topic, I often think it's because women generally do give a guy the time of day to scope their personality even if they didn't find them particularly attractive at first sight, and they are more open to doing this than men are.
    I'm sure gay men, and men in general also do prioritise personality highly as well, just moreso in the long run and not so much at the immediate point of first contact.

    Anyway those are just my thoughts and I do apologise for it being long. I'm not saying what I think is the fact of reality and I also do apologise if I have offended people in any way. Of course I didn't mean to do that, I just thought to try give insight into what I'm thinking the OP was trying to allude to.


    PREACH IT SHUG!


    Who in the hell is this guy? That was insightful as hell. The OP couldn't had said it better!!!!


    another faceless "dude" weighs in.

    yay.
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    DEKIRUMAN saidThreads always turn out this way.

    Some guy who is having a hard time, makes a post contemplating the culture of the gay sexual market place and it is immediately met with

    "straight people do that too"

    "something is wrong with you"


    But I would take this more seriously if I ever heard it from a non white guy with more that 12% body fat.


    If MNP lost weight, then he would be Edward, and homos would treat him the same way that they do now.

    That's not a problem with him, it's a problem with US.

    Gay people never accept responsibility for any of the cultural currents in the gay community and it amazes me.


    That pretty much sums it up. I mean I take advice wherever I can if its not complete bull. If you're black unless you have two percent body fat you might as well be thypoid mary.
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    DEKIRUMAN saidThreads always turn out this way.

    Some guy who is having a hard time, makes a post contemplating the culture of the gay sexual market place and it is immediately met with

    "straight people do that too"

    "something is wrong with you"


    But I would take this more seriously if I ever heard it from a non white guy with more that 12% body fat.


    If MNP lost weight, then he would be Edward, and homos would treat him the same way that they do now.

    That's not a problem with him, it's a problem with US.

    Gay people never accept responsibility for any of the cultural currents in the gay community and it amazes me.



    What do you mean?


    You get mistreated on this site a lot Edward. You are a good-looking man with a humungous penis and a lot of guys are never going to recognize that unless you fit into the small box of features that gays have designated as ideal.


    People are relentlessly mean to Edward. He seems nice enough.
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    Dec 02, 2012 8:13 PM GMT
    MashogaNubianPrince said
    Cash said
    MadeinMich said
    Cash said
    MashogaNubianPrince said
    Cash said
    MashogaNubianPrince said
    Cash saidOP - Yer problem is not with the Gay Community. Your problem is with the VERY tiny amount of life You have experienced.

    You claim to be a writer. If You ever hope to write something interesting You will have to experience MOAR than the local bar and the 40 or 50 people in Your Recent Call List.

    Surely someone who wishes to tell great stories knows that there is a WHOLE WORLD out there to be experienced????

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    When I have a car I get out. I've been around I just don't get out often now because I dont have a car anymore so I stay stuck in where I'm at.


    Perhaps your next book should be a Book Of Excuses.

    That seems to be your strongsuit....


    I'm not making excuses I'm just being honest.


    NO -- you are looking for sympathy...and justification.

    AND you know it..

    Lets face facts. You are over-weight and not in very good condition.

    You are a good looking Guy.

    But you are putting yourself in a context that is innappropriate.
    And then have the audacity to complain about it.

    AND YOU KNOW IT.




    Why do people like you have to come in and hi jack a well thought out post by calling him out on his weight. judging by his profile he knows he's over weight and is doing something about it. I've seen the problem he is articulating in his OP reiterated time again by men of various body types on RJ. It has nothing to do with his weight.


    People like Me?

    What exactly is that.???

    It is NOT a well thougt out post btw.

    And nothing was hijacked.

    I addressed Him.

    Period.

    I have ZERO probs with Guys who are over-weight.

    I have probs with Dudes who bitch they don't get enuff attention from other Guys ...





    I wasn't bitching. I was just saying how there seems to be more straight people willing to hang in there when its rough than there are gay men.


    really?

    prove it.

    I am twice yer age

    and have travelled the world.

    SOMEHOW I think I have a tad more expreience.

    NOT saying your feelings aren't valid...

    Just saying You haven't experienced enuff of the World yet.
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    DEKIRUMAN saidThreads always turn out this way.

    Some guy who is having a hard time, makes a post contemplating the culture of the gay sexual market place and it is immediately met with

    "straight people do that too"

    "something is wrong with you"


    But I would take this more seriously if I ever heard it from a non white guy with more that 12% body fat.


    If MNP lost weight, then he would be Edward, and homos would treat him the same way that they do now.

    That's not a problem with him, it's a problem with US.

    Gay people never accept responsibility for any of the cultural currents in the gay community and it amazes me.



    What do you mean?


    You get mistreated on this site a lot Edward. You are a good-looking man with a humungous penis and a lot of guys are never going to recognize that unless you fit into the small box of features that gays have designated as ideal.



    Oh. I try not to let it bother me as much and have to realize not everybody is gonna like me. But thanks for pointing that out and being considerate as always.
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    Dec 02, 2012 8:18 PM GMT
    MashogaNubianPrince said
    Cash said
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    MadeinMich said"Like I was saying with women its more about mental and emotional attraction and also how you approach it. "


    I find this to be true.


    Its easier to connect with women mentally. Its the reason why most of my friends are women or very effeminate men.


    It is also the reason you will remain alone


    Cha' know I fins it very ironic someone who looks like you is trying to tell me about why I'm alone. No offense but you look like what many gay men want. I'm sure there was a period when you didn't but you do now. And as an older gentlemen I would think you would understand how people can be incredibly shallow and not let you pass the gate.

    You're a white middle class man telling men that the society isn't the problem but I'm the problem. You are the society.

    Oh no you didn't just call Cash an older gentleman. I'd take him over two twenty year olds any day.
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    MashogaNubianPrince said
    Cash said
    MashogaNubianPrince said
    MadeinMich said"Like I was saying with women its more about mental and emotional attraction and also how you approach it. "


    I find this to be true.


    Its easier to connect with women mentally. Its the reason why most of my friends are women or very effeminate men.


    It is also the reason you will remain alone


    Cha' know I fins it very ironic someone who looks like you is trying to tell me about why I'm alone. No offense but you look like what many gay men want. I'm sure there was a period when you didn't but you do now. And as an older gentlemen I would think you would understand how people can be incredibly shallow and not let you pass the gate.

    You're a white middle class man telling men that the society isn't the problem but I'm the problem. You are the society.

    Oh no you didn't just call Cash an older gentleman. I'd take him over two twenty year olds any day.


    Well he is older. Not old or elderly just older.
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    Dec 02, 2012 8:23 PM GMT
    Cash said
    MashogaNubianPrince said
    Cash said
    MadeinMich said
    Cash said
    MashogaNubianPrince said
    Cash said
    MashogaNubianPrince said
    Cash saidOP - Yer problem is not with the Gay Community. Your problem is with the VERY tiny amount of life You have experienced.

    You claim to be a writer. If You ever hope to write something interesting You will have to experience MOAR than the local bar and the 40 or 50 people in Your Recent Call List.

    Surely someone who wishes to tell great stories knows that there is a WHOLE WORLD out there to be experienced????

    icon_wink.gificon_wink.gificon_wink.gif



    When I have a car I get out. I've been around I just don't get out often now because I dont have a car anymore so I stay stuck in where I'm at.


    Perhaps your next book should be a Book Of Excuses.

    That seems to be your strongsuit....


    I'm not making excuses I'm just being honest.


    NO -- you are looking for sympathy...and justification.

    AND you know it..

    Lets face facts. You are over-weight and not in very good condition.

    You are a good looking Guy.

    But you are putting yourself in a context that is innappropriate.
    And then have the audacity to complain about it.

    AND YOU KNOW IT.




    Why do people like you have to come in and hi jack a well thought out post by calling him out on his weight. judging by his profile he knows he's over weight and is doing something about it. I've seen the problem he is articulating in his OP reiterated time again by men of various body types on RJ. It has nothing to do with his weight.


    People like Me?

    What exactly is that.???

    It is NOT a well thougt out post btw.

    And nothing was hijacked.

    I addressed Him.

    Period.

    I have ZERO probs with Guys who are over-weight.

    I have probs with Dudes who bitch they don't get enuff attention from other Guys ...





    I wasn't bitching. I was just saying how there seems to be more straight people willing to hang in there when its rough than there are gay men.


    really?

    prove it.

    I am twice yer age

    and have travelled the world.

    SOMEHOW I think I have a tad more expreience.

    NOT saying your feelings aren't valid...

    Just saying You haven't experienced enuff of the World yet.


    I've been around and hell you don't gotta go far to be able to see there are problems in our society. And also again you being and looking the way you do is going to definitely color your viewpoint differently than mine.
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    DEKIRUMAN saidThreads always turn out this way.

    Some guy who is having a hard time, makes a post contemplating the culture of the gay sexual market place and it is immediately met with

    "straight people do that too"

    "something is wrong with you"


    But I would take this more seriously if I ever heard it from a non white guy with more that 12% body fat.


    If MNP lost weight, then he would be Edward, and homos would treat him the same way that they do now.

    That's not a problem with him, it's a problem with US.

    Gay people never accept responsibility for any of the cultural currents in the gay community and it amazes me.


    That pretty much sums it up. I mean I take advice wherever I can if its not complete bull. If you're black unless you have two percent body fat you might as well be thypoid mary.



    Just try not to have a defeatist attitude about it man. I know it's tough because you spend so much time feeling like you are attractive and stepping into the gay community can feel very sexually disenfranchising. That's not really something most white guys ever have to go through because whether or not they are attractive is purely determined by effort in most cases. They don't get rejected a lot based on race so it's as hard for them to understand as it would be for you or I to understand being rejected for being older.

    Don't apologize for expressing yourself. You have the right to feel whatever you are feeling. I like Cash a lot and respect his opinion but you and he are very different and experience the gay community in a very different way. So respect what he has to say but don't let him or me, coerce you into rearranging what you perceive to be your reality, because we don't have to live it.
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    Dec 02, 2012 8:24 PM GMT
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    Who in the hell is this guy? That was insightful as hell. The OP couldn't had said it better!!!!

    another faceless "dude" weighs in.

    yay.[/quote]

    Its funny how you totally avoided that insightful post and diverted to something as insignificant as my faceless pic. Perhaps you are afraid of looking deeper into that post because it would conflict with your narrow-minded deeply held views on this topic.
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    Dec 02, 2012 8:24 PM GMT
    MashogaNubianPrince said
    Cash said
    MashogaNubianPrince said
    MadeinMich said"Like I was saying with women its more about mental and emotional attraction and also how you approach it. "


    I find this to be true.


    Its easier to connect with women mentally. Its the reason why most of my friends are women or very effeminate men.


    It is also the reason you will remain alone


    Cha' know I fins it very ironic someone who looks like you is trying to tell me about why I'm alone. No offense but you look like what many gay men want. I'm sure there was a period when you didn't but you do now. And as an older gentlemen I would think you would understand how people can be incredibly shallow and not let you pass the gate.

    You're a white middle class man telling men that the society isn't the problem but I'm the problem. You are the society.


    My looks are secondary. ANYbody who knows Me will agree.

    I understad shllowness...I also understand getting beyond it.

    I am not middle class.

    As an OLDER GENTLEMAN You may wanna actually listin to Me.

    I never said you are a problem.

    Get a passport. and take whatever You have. And leave wherever You are.

    You are smart - it shows.

    But You are stuck in a place that gives nothing back to You.

    And it shows.



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    Dec 02, 2012 8:28 PM GMT
    Coach_Mike said
    MashogaNubianPrince said
    Cash said
    MashogaNubianPrince said
    MadeinMich said"Like I was saying with women its more about mental and emotional attraction and also how you approach it. "


    I find this to be true.


    Its easier to connect with women mentally. Its the reason why most of my friends are women or very effeminate men.


    It is also the reason you will remain alone


    Cha' know I fins it very ironic someone who looks like you is trying to tell me about why I'm alone. No offense but you look like what many gay men want. I'm sure there was a period when you didn't but you do now. And as an older gentlemen I would think you would understand how people can be incredibly shallow and not let you pass the gate.

    You're a white middle class man telling men that the society isn't the problem but I'm the problem. You are the society.

    Oh no you didn't just call Cash an older gentleman. I'd take him over two twenty year olds any day.


    Oh I don't care about being called OLD.

    My goal is 100.

    So what.

    Imma holding up.

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    Dec 02, 2012 8:33 PM GMT
    Cash said
    MashogaNubianPrince said
    Cash said
    MashogaNubianPrince said
    MadeinMich said"Like I was saying with women its more about mental and emotional attraction and also how you approach it. "


    I find this to be true.


    Its easier to connect with women mentally. Its the reason why most of my friends are women or very effeminate men.


    It is also the reason you will remain alone


    Cha' know I fins it very ironic someone who looks like you is trying to tell me about why I'm alone. No offense but you look like what many gay men want. I'm sure there was a period when you didn't but you do now. And as an older gentlemen I would think you would understand how people can be incredibly shallow and not let you pass the gate.

    You're a white middle class man telling men that the society isn't the problem but I'm the problem. You are the society.


    My looks are secondary. ANYbody who knows Me will agree.

    I understad shllowness...I also understand getting beyond it.

    I am not middle class.

    As an OLDER GENTLEMAN You may wanna actually listin to Me.

    I never said you are a problem.

    Get a passport. and take whatever You have. And leave wherever You are.

    You are smart - it shows.

    But You are stuck in a place that gives nothing back to You.

    And it shows.



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    Its not just that easy to pick it up and go. Of course when you have moneyamd nothing.g thing you down its easy to just bounce. I'm an adult with a grown up life and just flaking off of a whim isn't something I can do.
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    Dec 02, 2012 8:37 PM GMT
    Cash said
    MashogaNubianPrince said
    Cash said
    MashogaNubianPrince said
    MadeinMich said"Like I was saying with women its more about mental and emotional attraction and also how you approach it. "


    I find this to be true.


    Its easier to connect with women mentally. Its the reason why most of my friends are women or very effeminate men.


    It is also the reason you will remain alone


    Cha' know I fins it very ironic someone who looks like you is trying to tell me about why I'm alone. No offense but you look like what many gay men want. I'm sure there was a period when you didn't but you do now. And as an older gentlemen I would think you would understand how people can be incredibly shallow and not let you pass the gate.

    You're a white middle class man telling men that the society isn't the problem but I'm the problem. You are the society.


    My looks are secondary. ANYbody who knows Me will agree.

    I understad shllowness...I also understand getting beyond it.

    I am not middle class.

    As an OLDER GENTLEMAN You may wanna actually listin to Me.

    I never said you are a problem.

    Get a passport. and take whatever You have. And leave wherever You are.

    You are smart - it shows.

    But You are stuck in a place that gives nothing back to You.

    And it shows.



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    One thing I agree with is that international travel can really boost your self esteem because people in other parts of the world are not as narrowminded as we are here in the US.

    The fact remains though that something is wrong with things HERE! and that has to change.
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    Dec 02, 2012 8:38 PM GMT
    MadeinMich said[

    Who in the hell is this guy? That was insightful as hell. The OP couldn't had said it better!!!!

    another faceless "dude" weighs in.

    yay.


    Its funny how you totally avoided that insightful post and diverted to something as insignificant as my faceless pic. Perhaps you are afraid of looking deeper into that post because it would conflict with your narrow-minded deeply held views on this topic.[/quote]

    I acknowledged the post..

    Have you read the post?

    The fact that you hide is NOT insignificant.

    read My posts "dude".

    I am hardly narow minded
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    Dec 02, 2012 8:41 PM GMT
    DEKIRUMAN said
    Cash said
    MashogaNubianPrince said
    Cash said
    MashogaNubianPrince said
    MadeinMich said"Like I was saying with women its more about mental and emotional attraction and also how you approach it. "


    I find this to be true.


    Its easier to connect with women mentally. Its the reason why most of my friends are women or very effeminate men.


    It is also the reason you will remain alone


    Cha' know I fins it very ironic someone who looks like you is trying to tell me about why I'm alone. No offense but you look like what many gay men want. I'm sure there was a period when you didn't but you do now. And as an older gentlemen I would think you would understand how people can be incredibly shallow and not let you pass the gate.

    You're a white middle class man telling men that the society isn't the problem but I'm the problem. You are the society.


    My looks are secondary. ANYbody who knows Me will agree.

    I understad shllowness...I also understand getting beyond it.

    I am not middle class.

    As an OLDER GENTLEMAN You may wanna actually listin to Me.

    I never said you are a problem.

    Get a passport. and take whatever You have. And leave wherever You are.

    You are smart - it shows.

    But You are stuck in a place that gives nothing back to You.

    And it shows.



    icon_wink.gificon_wink.gificon_wink.gif




    One thing I agree with is that international travel can really boost your self esteem because people in other parts of the world are not as narrowminded as we are here in the US.

    The fact remains though that something is wrong with things HERE! and that has to change.


    what exacty needs to change dekiruman?