Conservative Talk Shows

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    Sep 15, 2008 3:25 AM GMT
    nycusa05 saidkoaa2 said:
    "Republicans are so conflicted with themselves, all you have to do is let them talk and it is so evident why this country is in such a mess"

    SEE THAT IS THE DISTINCT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CONSERVATIVES AND LIBERALS. CONSERVATIVES BELIEVE THIS COUNTRY IS NOT A MESS (ALTHOUGH REALIZE AMERICA IS NOT PERFECT EITHER)..AS TO WHERE LIBERALS ARE CONSISTENTLY TRASHING THIS COUNTRY STATING HOW BAD IT IS AND WHAT A MESS IT IS. IN REALTY ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS LIVE IN MOST OTHER COUNTRIES ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD AND YOU WILL CLEARLY AND QUICKLY SEE THAT THIS COUNTRY, AMERICA, IS NOT THE MESS YOU THINK IT IS


    I'm liberal and I don't think America is a mess. Unlike you, I've lived in enough places to understand why America is a good, a great, country and also to have a few perspectives on where it could be improved upon.

    And so I was interested to read your profile: "GL, real genuine, down to earth, very discteet/DL, new to this, not into the gay scene, athletic"

    I don't want to make a personal attack, so I'll ask you a question: Have you ever considered whether your political choices are prolonging your need to be discteet[sic]/DL?

    I dream of a day when society allows you to express who you are freely, whatever your orientation. I dream of a time when you do not feel the need to conceal your identity. That this dream is unfulfilled suggests that there is something wrong with society, and I regret that I cannot see that dream being fulfilled by the Republican party as it is at the moment.
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    Sep 15, 2008 3:37 AM GMT
    It does not surprise me. All that fear and hate speech attracts racists (even like some on this site) and worse. Excellent video.

    http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/09122008/watch.html
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    Sep 15, 2008 3:59 AM GMT
    As a loose participant, and mostly a bystander today, I'd find it very helpful to have some references, links, etc. to all the postulations and accusations of "making things up". As a scientist, one of the things I learned early on is the importance of some sort of authoritative reference for everything you state as true or false that might not be obvious to your readers. I think OW is doing pretty well on that front. Cold, you could use some improvement there, I think ;)

    One reason this is so important nowadays is the prevalence of the "truth by repetition" method I've brought up before. You can google "truth by repetition" to see the infamous origin of this method that has proven successful time after time for over 70 years now.

    Note that "truth by repetition" has been used by all sorts of people, the left, the right, corporations, governments, and individuals. My point is that it is here, it's ever present, and IT WORKS. So we all need to be critical of others, and especially ourselves when we hear the phrase "it's obvious that" or "everyone knows that." Both of these phrases should act as warning markers that cause everyone to do a quick reference check on the InterWebs.

    Oh, and make sure you drink your "8 glasses of water every day." Everyone knows that. Perhaps while you're watching our "liberal dominated media."

    PS Here's a picture I just saw posted in another RJ thread -- see, it MUST be true! I mean -- it's a picture! Hmm, geez, I better start shoveling in more bread and pasta too. I only have 1 serving a day -- I should have 6! Everyone knows that!

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    Sep 15, 2008 4:05 AM GMT
    Great video. Hey guys, stop watching Fox. Read a book.
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    Sep 18, 2008 1:33 PM GMT
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    PBS is very liberal and lie to make conservatives look evil. I ma sure there may be some gay bashers out there that try to pedal themselves as conservatives but do not believe them. Try to listen to the Rush Limbaugh radio show Monday-Friday. He is very funny, well informed and very intelligent. He is a real good guy; you will see that if you actually listen to him. Watch John Hannity of FOX news or listen to his radio show, he is fantastic. I know these are good men and they are the best that conservative talk show has to offer. They also have the largest audiences than all of the liberal newscasters combined! Before you just listen to one persons ignorant point of view, dare to judge for yourself. Do not take my word for it, listen to them for yourself. Ignorant people preach hate, NOT conservatives. You are labeling conservatives as being evil. I am BI. I am Very conservative, and I am not a hatter, nor do I listen to anyone who preaches hate. PBS preaches hate; you should lighten up and watch FOX news instead. Let go of the ignorance, let go of hate and hug a conservative today.icon_biggrin.gif




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    Seems like it is the conservative themselves that make themselves look bad, all you have to do is watch what they say and you get many examples.


    I think people should watch a little of everything. How else are you going to make a well-informed decision? Fox News is obviously conservative. PBS is obviously socially liberal. You're going to miss criticisms of the people you claim to support unless you watch both. Until that happens, news will be relegated to "preaching to the choir."

    I tend to lean liberal socially so I tend to hate most everything Fox News reports. I tend to listen to NPR much more than any other radio station. I still watch the conservative stuff to keep my motivations in check. It is a real eye opener to watch TV anchors for Fox News complain about the gay agenda. It bothers me, too, that NPR and PBS tend to want to throw money at EVERYTHING in their way.
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    Sep 18, 2008 1:41 PM GMT
    nycusa05 saidkoaa2 said:
    "Republicans are so conflicted with themselves, all you have to do is let them talk and it is so evident why this country is in such a mess"

    SEE THAT IS THE DISTINCT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CONSERVATIVES AND LIBERALS. CONSERVATIVES BELIEVE THIS COUNTRY IS NOT A MESS (ALTHOUGH REALIZE AMERICA IS NOT PERFECT EITHER)..AS TO WHERE LIBERALS ARE CONSISTENTLY TRASHING THIS COUNTRY STATING HOW BAD IT IS AND WHAT A MESS IT IS. IN REALTY ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS LIVE IN MOST OTHER COUNTRIES ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD AND YOU WILL CLEARLY AND QUICKLY SEE THAT THIS COUNTRY, AMERICA, IS NOT THE MESS YOU THINK IT IS


    When a company based in Shanghai -their U.S. unit - has devised a plan to influence all business and all insurance sectors with their wheeling and dealing with absolutely no regulation (read: commodities swaps something or other), you know that something is awry. If the U.S. taxpayers did not bail out this company it would have been 1929 all over again. We would have needed a world war to pull us out of the resulting chaos.
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    Sep 18, 2008 2:21 PM GMT
    nhguy78 saidIf the U.S. taxpayers did not bail out this company it would have been 1929 all over again. We would have needed a world war to pull us out of the resulting chaos.

    icon_eek.gifPlease don't give G.W. any ideas, between Iran and Georgia, I get the feeling something will start.
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    Sep 18, 2008 2:45 PM GMT
    "Conservative Talk Show Hosts" do go a little too far at times, but so do "Liberal Talk Show Hosts", especially on Air America and FSTV.

    Hold on to your hats but, there is a "Conservative" talk show host" that I really can't stand, Michael Savage. I think the man's an idiot. Savage on the right and Randi Rhodes on the left are the dumbest people on radio.

    I watch and listen to the "Liberal" shows more than the "Conservative" shows just to keep up with what's being said and take their information and verify it against my perceptions and facts I can dig up to clarify the whole issue thing.

    I find that even the History Channel can distort the truth at times. In a HC documentary about the civil rights movement they accused Senator Barry Goldwater of being an enemy to the civil rights movement.

    In fact, Senator Goldwater (McCain's Predecessor) did vote against the 1964 civil rights act, on the grounds that it violated the Constitution. He did vote for the 1957 and 1960 civil rights acts. As Governor of Arizona he desegregated the Arizona National Guard before Truman desegregated the US Army and Barry Goldwater was the founder of the Arizona NAACP. Since Tom Brokaw narrarated the documentary, I'm not surprised. Tom also faled to mention that Senator Byrd led the filibuster of the bill for 78 days and at one point gave a 25 hour speech in the filibuster to block the vote on the 1964 civil rights act. Brokaw also failed to mention that Al Gore Senior voted against the act. (The last VP's dad) Bob Dole, he voted for it.
    Even Tom Brokaw of NBC can show partisan preference on a program and station that dedicates itself to factual information. Barry Goldwater is also the guy who coined the line, a guy doesn't have to be straight to shoot straight, it wasn't Hillary. It really pisses me off when someone tries to paint us Republicans as racists. We are still and will always be the party of Lincoln.






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    Sep 18, 2008 2:53 PM GMT
    Hey, how's it going on that investigation into whether or not the Dems pulled the strings for the current fiscal disaster, Sherlock43620? Hmm?

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    Sep 18, 2008 2:57 PM GMT
    Pattison saidI love Rush Limbaugh......... He's the man.icon_biggrin.gif


    OMG, talk about scary! And referencing another comment by the same poster: what Republicans have brought us is the closet to Fascism the US has ever come. The concept that the State comes before the people, that the government determines all things, and makes personal decisions for individuals. And this in a country that was founded on individual rights.

    And before anyone replies about Republican "free market" economics, that's only applied as convenient. As someone recently noted, it's free market when companies are making profits, and suddenly becomes socialistic market control & support when a bailout is needed, as we've all seen recently. True free market would be sink-or-swim no matter what happens.
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    Sep 18, 2008 3:08 PM GMT
    Stay tuned, Senator Chris Dodd of Connecticut isn't looking too good on this. His connections to the CEOs of Fannie and Freddie are just too tight.
    His brief floor speech yesterday indicated that he is very stressed and disingenuous. But, I am quite partisan on the issue and on a subject like this, I want to get it right.

    Nancy Pelosi was extremely upset that AIG was saved, she looked absolutely shaken and stirred. Somethings up here. My hunch is, there was a deliberate sabotage of the economy involved here.

    Phil Gramm is also under scrutiny here too, so, I'm trying to be fair.
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    Sep 18, 2008 3:11 PM GMT
    They seem stressed? Jesus H, john. They ALL seemed stressed. Shrub is or has made a statement regarding this all. Do you think he's stressed? Maybe he's involved. Maybe people don't look favorably on sticking the taxpayers with another 85 billion dollars in debt.
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    Sep 18, 2008 3:16 PM GMT
    Jefferson said:

    "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it."
    — Thomas Jefferson

    I do not like the term 'hate speech' for several reasons, the least of which is that it is so easily defined by the majority. Hate speech is a threat to free-speech which is intended to protect all speech. I'd much rather live in a world where people can say whatever absurd thing they want with the option to turn it off then in a world where I can't speak at all... unless it is a gag of some sort, but that's another story icon_eek.gif

    I know there are examples of times when free speech should be limited, but public talk shows, etc. are not among them, regardless of how egregious they may be.
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    Sep 18, 2008 3:45 PM GMT
    Oh dear. Since when has the word 'liberal' become a dirty word?

    Isn't there something about 'freedom of speech' that's written in the American constitution?

    It seems it 'freedom of speech as long as you're saying what I'm saying, otherwise I hate you'.

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