OK OK sheeesh... EVERYONE MATTERS MKAY!?

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    Dec 21, 2012 7:33 AM GMT
    WaytoDawn saidIn the grand scheme of things, you could say no one, or nothing matters. Being a minority of the population is the least of our worries, trust me.

    Oh things matter.. but only if you have the power to make things matter. But you are a gay man. You have no power. You must rely on someone who does have power to make the case for you. You dont matter. but they sure as hell do,.
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    Dec 21, 2012 7:37 AM GMT
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    WaytoDawn saidIn the grand scheme of things, you could say no one, or nothing matters. Being a minority of the population is the least of our worries, trust me.

    Oh things matter.. but only if you have the power to make things matter. But you are a gay man. You have no power. You must rely on someone who does have power to make the case for you. You dont matter. but they sure as hell do,.


    You are black. You have no power. They only have power. You sound defeatist and broken. You sound like them old black people who thought all the nice shit were for white people. Do you expect a minority group that hasn't had true power as a unit to just grab their rights like it ain't nothing? Its called working the system. Women are mote than fifty percent of the nation with many of them in power and they still get paid less then men.
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    Dec 21, 2012 7:39 AM GMT
    I feel good that you used the collective "we" but offended that you said we don't matter.

    My math is rusty, but I think that in a world (the country of America at least) that prides itself on individuality, then that 3% as a group bumps us up to a nice 75-80% as individuals. It's a good thing man. icon_wink.gif
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    Dec 21, 2012 7:40 AM GMT
    TheBizMan said
    WaytoDawn saidIn the grand scheme of things, you could say no one, or nothing matters. Being a minority of the population is the least of our worries, trust me.

    Oh things matter.. but only if you have the power to make things matter. But you are a gay man. You have no power. You must rely on someone who does have power to make the case for you. You dont matter. but they sure as hell do,.


    The way I see it, when compared to the vast amount of planets and stars out there, and the fact that no matter what we do, they will continue on, the fact is clear that nothing we do really matters in the grand scheme of things.

    The same could be said of straight people. No one really has power, they always must rely on others to have power and act on it.

    Gay people have obtained more power than they used to have. And although they havn't won the war, there are still many small victories.
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    Dec 21, 2012 2:02 PM GMT
    You can put everyone in any group in to a smaller group and say that because the group that they are in is so small they have no value. which means that if our group has no value then no one's does.
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    Dec 21, 2012 2:06 PM GMT
    We matter....And we'll settle it at Skyfall...

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    Dec 21, 2012 2:57 PM GMT
    Of course we matter. Luca Pacioli was a man who had sex with men in the Renaissance and he fathered our accounting system.

    The system that every single business and government agency uses to track their money.

    If not for us, the IRS would be powerless!
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    Dec 21, 2012 3:04 PM GMT
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    Angelix90 saidAre you high?

    Being high is only a supplementary state of bliss. I prefer to live in the real world. The world of misery and pain.

    Life is unfair. Life is unkind. Life really doesn't matter.


    I can answer that with my favourite quote from G Eliot:

    " What do we live for, if not to make life less difficult for each other?"

    We can, each of us, be the answer to life's unfairness and unkindness for one another. Many straight people feel this way, too.......about their gay friends and relatives. icon_wink.gif

    In the meantime, Mr Biz, here's a hug. *HUG*
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    Dec 21, 2012 3:07 PM GMT
    TheBizMan saidSo what the fuck am i sticking around for in this life


    The sun, which rises every day, and the way it bathes everything in a golden glow.. the sight of a fresh, blooming prairie with flowers.. the wag of the tail of a loyal dog.. or the comforting purr of a furry kitten.. the hug of a friend you've not seen in years.. the unconditional love of a mother, father or sibling.. the laughter of children... the sight of the full moon on a warm summer night... the sound of the ocean breaking on a beach in the caribbean.. the woozy feeling of freedom of drink with friends on a celebratory night.. the feeling of accomplishment from getting a college diploma or buying the home you'll make a life in.. the sight of a gorgeous naked man on the one special night the universe makes you lucky.. the time when you hear that man say 'I love you' to you..


    And so many other things. There's so much to stick around in this life, my friend. It's not even funny.
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    Dec 21, 2012 4:44 PM GMT
    TheBizMan saidWell If gay people are only 3%-5% of the population...we really don't matter.
    Jews make up 1% of the population and have quite a bit of power.

    African Americans made up only 8-9% of the population during the Civil Rights era.

    And quite frankly, I think 3-5% estimates on gays are quite misleading. That's based on those who admit it, not those who actually are, as there is no way to accurately find out.

    And of course, don't forget bisexuals, which Kinsey believed technically was 80% of the human population.
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    Dec 21, 2012 4:48 PM GMT
    We should build a new future city with vertical farming and energy capturing infrastructure and with it's own military/police force and new age hospitals and be totally self sufficient and populate it only with gays. We shall call it.... FAB-opolis
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    WaytoDawn saidIn the grand scheme of things, you could say no one, or nothing matters. Being a minority of the population is the least of our worries, trust me.

    Oh things matter.. but only if you have the power to make things matter. But you are a gay man. You have no power. You must rely on someone who does have power to make the case for you. You dont matter. but they sure as hell do,.
    Hey, if you listen to the anti-gay crowd, gays are powerful enough to lead to the downfall of society as we know it. Haven't you heard, we turn children gay, we cause hurricanes, earthquakes, and terrorist attacks, we redefine ancient institutions, and we completely mold the political and social landscape wherever we go?

    Not only are we powerful, we're superpowerful. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Dec 21, 2012 4:53 PM GMT
    Just kidding.... but on a serious note. I have to agree with what is stated above. most statistics on a broader range of topics can be pretty much believable. but when talking about sexuality (especially in our society) many people do not want to talk openly about sexuality are not willing to admit to going against the "norm". even if the research/polling is anonymous. more and more people are coming out and accepting, but there is still a large number of people who do not want to admit to being gay/bi/curious. I can tell you that when I was deployed to Iraq there were many guys that admitted to being bi rather than straight. or what we call "deployment gay".
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    Dec 21, 2012 4:55 PM GMT
    Biz is drunk again!icon_biggrin.gif
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    Dec 21, 2012 4:57 PM GMT
    Prometheus saidWe should build a new future city with vertical farming and energy capturing infrastructure and with it's own military/police force and new age hospitals and be totally self sufficient and populate it only with gays. We shall call it.... FAB-opolis


    Will you be protecting and serving me? If so I'm in!!!! icon_wink.gif
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    Dec 21, 2012 5:00 PM GMT
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    Prometheus saidWe should build a new future city with vertical farming and energy capturing infrastructure and with it's own military/police force and new age hospitals and be totally self sufficient and populate it only with gays. We shall call it.... FAB-opolis


    Will you be protecting and serving me? If so I'm in!!!! icon_wink.gif


    Hell yeah. we will populate the city with everyone from RealJock. Verified profiles get first dibs on housing. we have enough people on realjock to fit every niche for employment and career fields. all military will stand up and we will guard our borders to make sure no straights cross over. lol.
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    Dec 21, 2012 5:02 PM GMT
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    Hell yeah. we will populate the city with everyone from RealJock. Verified profiles get first dibs on housing. we have enough people on realjock to fit every niche for employment and career fields. all military will stand up and we will guard our borders to make sure no straights cross over. lol.


    I'm in for a takeover, esp with Prometheus as our firepower!
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    Dec 21, 2012 5:10 PM GMT
    Prometheus saidHell yeah. we will populate the city with everyone from RealJock. Verified profiles get first dibs on housing. we have enough people on realjock to fit every niche for employment and career fields. all military will stand up and we will guard our borders to make sure no straights cross over. lol.


    Fuckin A!!
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    Dec 21, 2012 5:17 PM GMT
    Prometheus saidWe should build a new future city with vertical farming and energy capturing infrastructure and with it's own military/police force and new age hospitals and be totally self sufficient and populate it only with gays. We shall call it.... FAB-opolis
    How would we re-populate?
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    Dec 21, 2012 5:17 PM GMT
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    Prometheus saidWe should build a new future city with vertical farming and energy capturing infrastructure and with it's own military/police force and new age hospitals and be totally self sufficient and populate it only with gays. We shall call it.... FAB-opolis
    How would we re-populate?


    Adoption,
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    Dec 21, 2012 5:23 PM GMT
    TheBizMan saidWell If gay people are only 3%-5% of the population...we really don't matter.

    Yeah we do, because we're the top 3%-5%, bitch.
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    Dec 21, 2012 5:24 PM GMT
    we would have lesbians there too. also. anyone who is gay or lesbian can be apply for citizen ship. there would always be a continuous in flux of homos. we wouldn't really need to worry about that. Tri-gametic In-Vitro Fertilization.
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    Dec 21, 2012 5:24 PM GMT
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    TheBizMan saidWell If gay people are only 3%-5% of the population...we really don't matter.

    Because we're the top 3%-5%, bitch.


    YES!!!!!
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    Dec 21, 2012 5:28 PM GMT
    TheBizMan saidWell If gay people are only 3%-5% of the population...we really don't matter.


    If the world is only 3-5% gay people then it is also only 3-5% straight people and 90-94% bisexual people (most of whom are in denial).

    Being bisexual doesn't necessarily mean you are attracted equally to men and to women. To me it just means that at least one point in your life you were turned on (at least a little bit) by a man and at least one point in your life you were turned on (at least a little bit) by a woman.

    Don't want to start a flame war but that is what I think and if you don't agree with me you can kiss my butt.
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    Dec 21, 2012 5:36 PM GMT
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