Finding Purpose

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    Jan 03, 2013 3:56 PM GMT
    deltalimen saidSometimes we never get the answers nor are we entitled to them, but slowly the questions will go away.
    Love the deep thunks. Think I need to change this desire around, while it still bothers me, into something smaller and easier to manage. Like a raging dragon turned to a nelly bottom... ooh. icon_eek.gificon_razz.gif
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    Jan 03, 2013 3:56 PM GMT
    meninlove said
    I also like to use this:

    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQBFxIhTUm-iqhVcmDGC5x
    Steampunk, makes everything look better. icon_cool.gif
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    Jan 03, 2013 4:00 PM GMT
    _menz0 said
    meninlove said
    I also like to use this:

    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQBFxIhTUm-iqhVcmDGC5x
    Steampunk, makes everything look better. icon_cool.gif


    It's an alethiometer; very useful. icon_wink.gif
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    Jan 03, 2013 4:05 PM GMT
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    bri_66 said
    _menz0 said Anyone ever struggled to find purpose for their lives when circumstances weren't in in your favor? I've got support and a caring family, but somehow I'm convinced whatever task I'm meant to in the place I live is impossible. I'm here for some purpose. There has to be some purpose I'm meant to fill. I just need to know what... if any. icon_sad.gif

    I've been feeling the same thing in my life here lately.

    Think its biological. Certain states of mind for certain stages of life. Can't be a total self-serving slut-hoes all our lives.


    Like the moon waxes and wanes.

    A sense of purpose infusing every moment would exhaust us. What drives us forward can drive us into the ground. Also a sense of purpose tends to have not just drive but direction. So it is okay to take some down time, to rejuvenate and to gather your bearings. You might want to continue in the same direction or navigate a new one. A sense of purpose can lock you into a specific course. Be careful of those rocks and that submerged reef. And sometimes we just need to make course corrections because we do not control all the currents of our lives. We plow through while compensating for wind and wave.

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    Having some sense of purpose leads us towards new horizons and shores. While having no sense of purpose can lead to nihilism and depression, creating their own challenges to overcome when lost at sea. When you find yourself in a calm, it's natural to experience a little existential angst, wondering when the winds might blow again. Sometimes you have to get behind the boat and kick. Sometimes the boat carries us. Other times we row. Sometimes we wind up in an eddy just mixing things up and sometimes you can't escape it so you sit for a while, cook a nice meal while you wait it out, then taste the stew and see what you've got, what you might need to add and where you want to go from there.

    The trick of course being to go from there, once the tide slacks, once the wind blows, do not just sit and stew, even if a past purpose might later seem in retrospect to have been a total waste of time: because failures or successes are often beyond our efforts. So don't let the past hold you back. There's more to life than what we've lived. Sail on. You can't stop the moon.



    I sailed an ocean, unsettled ocean
    Through restful waters and deep commotion
    Often frightened, unenlightened
    Sail on, sail on sailor

    I wrest the waters, fight Neptune's waters
    Sail through the sorrows of life's marauders
    Unrepenting, often empty
    Sail on, sail on sailor

    Caught like a sewer rat alone but I sail
    Bought like a crust of bread, but oh do I wail

    Seldom stumble, never crumble
    Try to tumble, life's a rumble
    Feel the stinging I've been given
    Never ending, unrelenting
    Heartbreak searing, always fearing
    Never caring, persevering
    Sail on, sail on, sailor

    I work the seaways, the gale-swept seaways
    Past shipwrecked daughters of wicked waters
    Uninspired, drenched and tired
    Wail on, wail on, sailor

    Always needing, even bleeding
    Never feeding all my feelings
    Damn the thunder, must I blunder
    There's no wonder all I'm under
    Stop the crying and the lying
    And the sighing and my dying

    Sail on, sail on sailor
    Sail on, sail on sailor
    Sail on, sail on sailor
    Sail on, sail on sailor
    Sail on, sail on sailor
    Sail on, sail on sailor
    Sail on, sail on sailor
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    Jan 03, 2013 4:05 PM GMT
    meninlove said
    _menz0 said
    meninlove said
    I also like to use this:

    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQBFxIhTUm-iqhVcmDGC5x
    Steampunk, makes everything look better. icon_cool.gif


    It's an alethiometer; very useful. icon_wink.gif


    I'm still not sure if I enjoyed the HDM series...
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    Jan 03, 2013 4:06 PM GMT
    _menz0 said Anyone ever struggled to find purpose for their lives when circumstances weren't in in your favor? I've got support and a caring family, but somehow I'm convinced whatever task I'm meant to in the place I live is impossible. I'm here for some purpose. There has to be some purpose I'm meant to fill. I just need to know what... if any. icon_sad.gif


    My view is that the hard times gives us the tools we need to actually execute our path. You hardly learn anything during the good times, the hard times, well, there are some diamonds there. So when things suck, and i can feel that "i hate my life" moment come closer i just sit back and ask myself, what the hell is life trying to teach me and go with it. Helps me every single time. After a while, when you look at all the tools at your disposal "all the lessons you've learnt" you can start seeing what your end state will most likely be.
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    meninlove said
    _menz0 said
    meninlove said
    I also like to use this:

    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQBFxIhTUm-iqhVcmDGC5x
    Steampunk, makes everything look better. icon_cool.gif


    It's an alethiometer; very useful. icon_wink.gif

    I'll have to put it use. How do I use it?
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    Jan 03, 2013 4:07 PM GMT
    sywlyn said
    _menz0 said Anyone ever struggled to find purpose for their lives when circumstances weren't in in your favor? I've got support and a caring family, but somehow I'm convinced whatever task I'm meant to in the place I live is impossible. I'm here for some purpose. There has to be some purpose I'm meant to fill. I just need to know what... if any. icon_sad.gif


    My view is that the hard times gives us the tools we need to actually execute our path. You hardly learn anything during the good times, the hard times, well, there are some diamonds there. So when things suck, and i can feel that "i hate my life" moment come closer i just sit back and ask myself, what the hell is life trying to teach me and go with it. Helps me every single time. After a while, when you look at all the tools at your disposal "all the lessons you've learnt" you can start seeing what your end state will most likely be.

    I'll do that next meditation. Thanks for sharing that. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Jan 03, 2013 4:15 PM GMT
    theantijock said
    _menz0 said
    bri_66 said
    _menz0 said Anyone ever struggled to find purpose for their lives when circumstances weren't in in your favor? I've got support and a caring family, but somehow I'm convinced whatever task I'm meant to in the place I live is impossible. I'm here for some purpose. There has to be some purpose I'm meant to fill. I just need to know what... if any. icon_sad.gif

    I've been feeling the same thing in my life here lately.

    Think its biological. Certain states of mind for certain stages of life. Can't be a total self-serving slut-hoes all our lives.


    Like the moon waxes and wanes.

    A sense of purpose infusing every moment would exhaust us. What drives us forward can drive us into the ground. Also a sense of purpose tends to have not just drive but direction. So it is okay to take some down time, to rejuvenate and to gather your bearings. You might want to continue in the same direction or navigate a new one. A sense of purpose can lock you into a specific course. Be careful of those rocks and that submerged reef. And sometimes we just need to make course corrections because we do not control all the currents of our lives. We plow through while compensating for wind and wave.

    230628.jpg

    Having some sense of purpose leads us towards new horizons and shores. While having no sense of purpose can lead to nihilism and depression, creating their own challenges to overcome when lost at sea. When you find yourself in a calm, it's natural to experience a little existential angst, wondering when the winds might blow again. Sometimes you have to get behind the boat and kick. Sometimes the boat carries us. Other times we row. Sometimes we wind up in an eddy just mixing things up and sometimes you can't escape it so you sit for a while, cook a nice meal while you wait it out, then taste the stew and see what you've got, what you might need to add and where you want to go from there.

    The trick of course being to go from there, once the tide slacks, once the wind blows, do not just sit and stew, even if a past purpose might later seem in retrospect to have been a total waste of time: because failures or successes are often beyond our efforts. So don't let the past hold you back. There's more to life than what we've lived. Sail on. You can't stop the moon.



    I sailed an ocean, unsettled ocean
    Through restful waters and deep commotion
    Often frightened, unenlightened
    Sail on, sail on sailor

    I wrest the waters, fight Neptune's waters
    Sail through the sorrows of life's marauders
    Unrepenting, often empty
    Sail on, sail on sailor

    Caught like a sewer rat alone but I sail
    Bought like a crust of bread, but oh do I wail

    Seldom stumble, never crumble
    Try to tumble, life's a rumble
    Feel the stinging I've been given
    Never ending, unrelenting
    Heartbreak searing, always fearing
    Never caring, persevering
    Sail on, sail on, sailor

    I work the seaways, the gale-swept seaways
    Past shipwrecked daughters of wicked waters
    Uninspired, drenched and tired
    Wail on, wail on, sailor

    Always needing, even bleeding
    Never feeding all my feelings
    Damn the thunder, must I blunder
    There's no wonder all I'm under
    Stop the crying and the lying
    And the sighing and my dying

    Sail on, sail on sailor
    Sail on, sail on sailor
    Sail on, sail on sailor
    Sail on, sail on sailor
    Sail on, sail on sailor
    Sail on, sail on sailor
    Sail on, sail on sailor

    Thanks for sharing this gemstone of thought. *cast myself to ground in a kneeling position* Love the song connection too. icon_cool.gif
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    Jan 03, 2013 4:21 PM GMT
    A_X91 saidmans_search_for_meaning.jpg

    One of my favorite books, if not my favorite. Life changing, IMO.

    I recommend you to read it icon_biggrin.gif, hope this helps and cheer up, life has great expectations for you!


    +2

    As I read the OP, this is the first thing that came to mind. I read it as a college student and have assigned it to my own students many times over the years. They all seem to get it and to take something meaningful from it.

    “When we are no longer able to change a situation, we are challenged to change ourselves.”
    ― Viktor Frankl
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    Jan 03, 2013 4:22 PM GMT
    _menz0 said
    meninlove said
    _menz0 said
    meninlove said
    I also like to use this:

    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQBFxIhTUm-iqhVcmDGC5x
    Steampunk, makes everything look better. icon_cool.gif


    It's an alethiometer; very useful. icon_wink.gif

    I'll have to put it use. How do I use it?


    You set the three red needles to positions pointing to symbols that frame what you want to find out. Once they're set, you think of what you want to know in as clear a fashion as you can, and relax instead of trying to think of an answer.
    Then you click the button for the fourth needle which swings around and stops momentarily on symbols, sometimes the ones you set the first three needles to, and delivers an answer via all the symbols the needle paused over, strung together like a sentence.
    It can tell you about present and past events, but not the future.

    Cool, eh?



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    Jan 03, 2013 4:45 PM GMT
    theantijock saidLike the moon waxes and wanes.

    A sense of purpose infusing every moment would exhaust us. What drives us forward can drive us into the ground. Also a sense of purpose tends to have not just drive but direction. So it is okay to take some down time, to rejuvenate and to gather your bearings. You might want to continue in the same direction or navigate a new one. A sense of purpose can lock you into a specific course. Be careful of those rocks and that submerged reef. And sometimes we just need to make course corrections because we do not control all the currents of our lives. We plow through while compensating for wind and wave.

    230628.jpg

    Having some sense of purpose leads us towards new horizons and shores. While having no sense of purpose can lead to nihilism and depression, creating their own challenges to overcome when lost at sea. When you find yourself in a calm, it's natural to experience a little existential angst, wondering when the winds might blow again. Sometimes you have to get behind the boat and kick. Sometimes the boat carries us. Other times we row. Sometimes we wind up in an eddy just mixing things up and sometimes you can't escape it so you sit for a while, cook a nice meal while you wait it out, then taste the stew and see what you've got, what you might need to add and where you want to go from there.

    The trick of course being to go from there, once the tide slacks, once the wind blows, do not just sit and stew, even if a past purpose might later seem in retrospect to have been a total waste of time: because failures or successes are often beyond our efforts. So don't let the past hold you back. There's more to life than what we've lived. Sail on. You can't stop the moon.
    I'm impressed. Very illustrative.
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    Hmm thats something new 26.gif to me ....The Alethiometer.. interesting something I would digg now.
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    Jan 03, 2013 4:59 PM GMT
    reading the above what theantijock said reminds of the movie Life of Pi..


    wont denied its a beautiful story/movie.
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    Jan 03, 2013 6:06 PM GMT
    Thanks for all the post you guys. I'm more confident about one thing... I'm probably worrying too much about something simple, but also that I'm asking myself the wrong questions. Thanks for the songs, wise words, and insights... thought this thread would go nowhere, was I wrong!

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    Jan 03, 2013 6:06 PM GMT
    Har19 said reading the above what theantijock said reminds of the movie Life of Pi..


    wont denied its a beautiful story/movie.

    Gotta see that! icon_razz.gif