Shaming fat people into losing weight is the only way to solve obesity epidemic, leading health academic claims

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    Jan 27, 2013 4:54 PM GMT
    I think the "All you can eat" buffet has been a contributing factor. There are soooooo many here in Nashville. I always tend to eat less when I go and see how people behave at them. They might as well pull up a chair to the bar. I don't get it. icon_neutral.gif
  • HndsmKansan

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    Jan 27, 2013 4:56 PM GMT
    What a ridiculous approach. They need to be encouraged through positive reinforcement. I would assume they get shame on a daily basis already.
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    Jan 27, 2013 4:59 PM GMT
    bri_66 saidI think the "All you can eat" buffet has been a contributing factor. There are soooooo many here in Nashville. I always tend to eat less when I go and see how people behave at them. They might as well pull up a chair to the bar. I don't get it. icon_neutral.gif


    I totally agree with this. I go to buffets now and eat a reasonable amount.
    I consider it a big meal by filling a plate, then going back for a couple of additional items (only). People are always trying to take home food from a buffet.

    I remember going out to eat with my cousin when I was in law school in Topeka, KS.... there were several "Shoney's restaurants" that had breakfast buffets. Some of what I saw made me sick to my stomach. I still have a problem EVER eating sausages after what I saw during that period of time.
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    Jan 27, 2013 5:00 PM GMT
    That's ridiculous. Nothing good can come out of making people feel bad about their weight.
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    Jan 27, 2013 5:23 PM GMT
    rugbyjockca saidIf that's the only way to eliminate the epidemic, then let's keep the epidemic and start focusing on eliminating the assholes.


    AMEN TO THAT..I HATE SHAME AS A MOTIVATION...
    unless i know im using it and rationalize it due to my catholique background...
    it works with assholes
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    Jan 27, 2013 5:24 PM GMT
    HndsmKansan saidWhat a ridiculous approach. They need to be encouraged through positive reinforcement. I would assume they get shame on a daily basis already.


    uncovering the shame is much harder than positive reinforcement...however, necessary or the pos reinforcement cannot soak in and be effective..the shame will rebuff any positivity.
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    Jan 27, 2013 5:34 PM GMT
    I have fat friends... and I don't shame them. Instead I just encourage them to eat better and workout with me.

    #notworking.
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    Jan 28, 2013 2:56 AM GMT
    Flamesoul said...I'm ALREADY too ashamed of showing myself at a gym where there's mostly only hot people like the guys on RJ.

    Sigh. Stop thinking everyone's looking at you in the gym. They're too busy looking at themselves. Don't be as self-absorbed as they are.
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    Jan 28, 2013 2:58 AM GMT
    People have to want to be serious about making a change. I wanted to stay fit, so I utilized my school's gym and now, I got 4x a week. Everybody has different fitness motivational goals. However, health should always be the #1 motivation.
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    Jan 28, 2013 4:46 AM GMT
    apc135 said...this is how anorexics are born. And look at the progress they've made!

    They're sexier than obese people, so apparently it's working.
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    Jan 28, 2013 4:47 AM GMT
    paulflexes said
    apc135 said...this is how anorexics are born. And look at the progress they've made!

    They're sexier than obese people, so apparently it's working.

    Paul! icon_surprised.gificon_eek.gif
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    Jan 28, 2013 4:49 AM GMT
    JR_Lore said
    paulflexes said
    apc135 said...this is how anorexics are born. And look at the progress they've made!

    They're sexier than obese people, so apparently it's working.

    Paul! icon_surprised.gificon_eek.gif
    It's the 2nd page of the thread...or 4th, depending on your settings.

    Nobody's gonna notice. icon_lol.gif
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    Jan 28, 2013 4:50 AM GMT
    paulflexes said
    JR_Lore said
    paulflexes said
    apc135 said...this is how anorexics are born. And look at the progress they've made!

    They're sexier than obese people, so apparently it's working.

    Paul! icon_surprised.gificon_eek.gif
    It's the 2nd page of the thread...or 4th, depending on your settings.

    Nobody's gonna notice. icon_lol.gif


    2nd!! Those who see it as 4th are pure lazy.
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    Jan 28, 2013 4:52 AM GMT
    Well that sounds douchey.
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    Jan 28, 2013 4:52 AM GMT
    Montague said
    paulflexes said
    JR_Lore said
    paulflexes said
    apc135 said...this is how anorexics are born. And look at the progress they've made!

    They're sexier than obese people, so apparently it's working.

    Paul! icon_surprised.gificon_eek.gif
    It's the 2nd page of the thread...or 4th, depending on your settings.

    Nobody's gonna notice. icon_lol.gif


    2nd!! Those who see it as 4th are pure lazy.
    Or they just have their settings at "25 posts per page."
  • Montague

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    Jan 28, 2013 4:53 AM GMT
    paulflexes said
    Montague said
    paulflexes said
    JR_Lore said
    paulflexes said
    apc135 said...this is how anorexics are born. And look at the progress they've made!

    They're sexier than obese people, so apparently it's working.

    Paul! icon_surprised.gificon_eek.gif
    It's the 2nd page of the thread...or 4th, depending on your settings.

    Nobody's gonna notice. icon_lol.gif


    2nd!! Those who see it as 4th are pure lazy.
    Or they just have their settings at "25 posts per page."


    exactly! they're settling for lower standards! for shame.
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    Jan 28, 2013 4:55 AM GMT
    Montague said
    paulflexes said
    Montague said
    paulflexes said
    JR_Lore said
    paulflexes said
    apc135 said...this is how anorexics are born. And look at the progress they've made!

    They're sexier than obese people, so apparently it's working.

    Paul! icon_surprised.gificon_eek.gif
    It's the 2nd page of the thread...or 4th, depending on your settings.

    Nobody's gonna notice. icon_lol.gif


    2nd!! Those who see it as 4th are pure lazy.
    Or they just have their settings at "25 posts per page."


    exactly! they're settling for lower standards! for shame.
    That's because they're stupid enough to settle for someone less hotter than you. But I'm not. That's why my boyfriend(s) are equally (if not more) as hot as you. icon_cool.gif
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    Jan 28, 2013 4:56 AM GMT
    Shaming doesn't work. From experience it takes a revelation, some form of wake up call to get you motivated. Mine came from a physical when i was 16 and got some troubling news from the doctor (blood pressure, etc.).

    As well i think it's about changing culture around "healthy". Lately i have noticed a strong campaign of being "comfortable about the skin your in" and not falling into societies expectations of what your body should look like. Nothing wrong with that, but I feel like for some, this has been used as an excuse to remain at a health level that is dangerous to their life in the long run. Real education of what is getting put into your body, and the effects of your habits on your body need to be taught from an early age (mandatory school programs). The earlier you instil good habits, the more likely they will stick as someone's life progresses.
  • Montague

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    Jan 28, 2013 5:06 AM GMT
    paulflexes said
    Montague said
    paulflexes said
    Montague said
    paulflexes said
    JR_Lore said
    paulflexes said
    apc135 said...this is how anorexics are born. And look at the progress they've made!

    They're sexier than obese people, so apparently it's working.

    Paul! icon_surprised.gificon_eek.gif
    It's the 2nd page of the thread...or 4th, depending on your settings.

    Nobody's gonna notice. icon_lol.gif


    2nd!! Those who see it as 4th are pure lazy.
    Or they just have their settings at "25 posts per page."


    exactly! they're settling for lower standards! for shame.
    That's because they're stupid enough to settle for someone less hotter than you. But I'm not. That's why my boyfriend(s) are equally (if not more) as hot as you. icon_cool.gif


    how does one get to be in your list of boyfriends? ;)
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    Jan 28, 2013 5:18 AM GMT
    Montague said
    paulflexes said
    Montague said
    paulflexes said
    Montague said
    paulflexes said
    JR_Lore said
    paulflexes said
    apc135 said...this is how anorexics are born. And look at the progress they've made!

    They're sexier than obese people, so apparently it's working.

    Paul! icon_surprised.gificon_eek.gif
    It's the 2nd page of the thread...or 4th, depending on your settings.

    Nobody's gonna notice. icon_lol.gif


    2nd!! Those who see it as 4th are pure lazy.
    Or they just have their settings at "25 posts per page."


    exactly! they're settling for lower standards! for shame.
    That's because they're stupid enough to settle for someone less hotter than you. But I'm not. That's why my boyfriend(s) are equally (if not more) as hot as you. icon_cool.gif


    how does one get to be in your list of boyfriends? ;)
    Buying me a private jet, turbine seaplane, helicopter, 200+ foot yacht, a Bentley, and an island in the southern Caribbean is a good start.
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    Jan 28, 2013 5:24 AM GMT
    Everyone has a right to their own lifestyle choices. The only way you can help someone is if they want to accept help, and truely work towards a goal.

    I do admit though, that society has become too accepting of obesity. When it becomes a norm, people rarely care.
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    Jan 28, 2013 5:27 AM GMT
    WaytoDawn saidEveryone has a right to their own lifestyle choices. The only way you can help someone is if they want to accept help, and truely work towards a goal.

    I do admit though, that society has become too accepting of obesity. When it becomes a norm, people rarely care.
    That's the whole point.

    Weho and South Beach are ahead of their times. Those are the only two places in the US where obesity is still taboo. icon_wink.gif
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    Jan 28, 2013 5:29 AM GMT
    An interesting macro perspective on obesity is for advertising companies to increase some more time into creating healthy food ads. The worst part about a bad diet, is the amount of sodium intake and that increases the chance for health defects.

    However, one can't force someone to change. One has to have that "epiphany moment" in order to start. Once that person realizes he or she needs to change their dieting and working out, it is best that friends and family encourage their goals. Belittling others for their personal choices only expresses the insecurity or frustration within yourself. It is a form of bullying, which I'm sure we all oppose.

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    Jan 28, 2013 5:32 AM GMT
    sonicpower19 saidAn interesting macro perspective on obesity is for advertising companies to increase some more time into creating healthy food ads. The worst part about a bad diet, is the amount of sodium intake and that increases the chance for health defects.

    However, one can't force someone to change. One has to have that "epiphany moment" in order to start. Once that person realizes he or she needs to change their dieting and working out, it is best that friends and family encourage their goals. Belittling others for their personal choices only expresses the insecurity or frustration within yourself. It is a form of bullying, which I'm sure we all oppose.

    My 2 cents icon_wink.gif
    So belittling someone who wants to fuck his younger cousin is just an insecurity?
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    Jan 28, 2013 5:34 AM GMT
    If we shame smoking, then we need to shame overeating, not obesity. Shaming obesity is like shaming lung cancer. It does no good. One of my best friends is on a massive weight loss plan. He is doing it because he wants to cure his disease, not because he feels bad for being fat.