"I'd be friends with a poz guy..."

  • Medjai

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    Feb 13, 2013 1:58 AM GMT
    paulflexes said"I'd be friends with a poz guy" basically means "none of my friends have told me they're poz, but it wouldn't affect how I feel about them."


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  • jim_sf

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    Feb 14, 2013 5:27 AM GMT
    Fortis saidMy experience of people who are HIV+ is that they can be bitter about their illness, and sometimes really obnoxious as a result. These are just the few people I have known. It really affected them psychologically, and the HIV medicines also affected their moods and behaviour.


    Wow. You must have a small sample size for that exposure. Most people I've met with HIV just deal with it, and aren't bitter at all.
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    Feb 14, 2013 5:55 AM GMT
    I dated a guy that was HIV+ (Even though I AM negative). It wasn't about his status. We just clicked. We never had sex or anything because he wasn't comfortable yet with the idea and that's cool but still. I have no problem being around someone that is Positive. They are people too. People really need to get educated on how you get it. They might think twice in the bedroom and places of the like.
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    Feb 18, 2013 12:25 AM GMT
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    nevz saidPrivilege of being HIV neg


    I know he's SO lucky. I. Think it's just super!


    Umm... only problem with the whole sarcasm thing here is that I am HIV+... a quick look at my profile would tell you that...
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    Feb 18, 2013 2:00 AM GMT
    jim_stl saidWow. You must have a small sample size for that exposure. Most people I've met with HIV just deal with it, and aren't bitter at all.


    I think that there was a recent example on this forum.

    There was a chap who was posting in the Mental Health section about something that was causing him a lot of distress and a HIV+ member here started at him, totally out of the blue, something along the lines of:

    "You are fucking pathetic. Some queers are such drama queens. Heaven help you if something really terrible happened to you which made you completely sexually unattractive to 99% of the population.

    I think that you should kill yourself and stop wasting the oxygen which should belong rightfully to those of us who are grateful for what we have."


    It sounded nasty and really rather bitter to me, and I have been subject to similar outbursts IRL oft-preceded with statements like, "You should try living with what I have to live with!"

    One might suggest that it is the bitterness, rather than the lurgy itself, but I have noticed this in past associates who were HIV+.

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    Feb 19, 2013 1:59 PM GMT
    with anything that can be deemed "suffering", there will be those who exploit it to be bitter.....whether it's a condition, or a circumstance.....

    there will also be those who refuse to be allow that condition/circumstance to define them.

    the only unique factor about HIV can be summarized with

    hiv exceptionalism

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV_exceptionalism

    which is primarily about social stigma which is perpetuated by itself.

    functionally, it's best to imagine that everyone has every pathogen possible and take whatever risks you are comfortable with. the opposite risk is to go through life and never experience it. there's really no risk avoidance, only choosing the risks you can accept. after all, every birth comes along with a guaranteed lethal STI: a pulse.
  • HndsmKansan

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    Feb 19, 2013 2:07 PM GMT
    Whether or not someone was HIV positive would not even be relevant relating to friendship... as far as a relationship... if you love the guy, you'd work through it. I'd never "include or exclude" involvement in a relationship
    with a man based on HIV status.
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    Feb 19, 2013 2:17 PM GMT
    Ignorance persists.

    Educate the ignorant.
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    Feb 21, 2013 2:12 PM GMT
    you know... since simple friendship doesn't involve transmissable activity, the idea that one person would say they'd even consider any blood or semen born virus as a factor in friendship pretty much says "i raw fuck and/or shoot up with all my friends at some point, so i have to filter them in advance, just to be safe...." in

    let's compare it to other statements:

    "i'd be friends with a diabetic"

    "i'd be friends with someone with ADHD"

    "i'd be friends with someone with Hep C"
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    Feb 21, 2013 2:34 PM GMT
    Id be friends with a diabetic...



    I get your point.
  • Sincityfan

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    Feb 22, 2013 12:16 AM GMT
    HIV IS STILL A LIFE SENTENCE.
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    Feb 22, 2013 12:28 AM GMT
    Sincityfan saidHIV IS STILL A LIFE SENTENCE.


    If by "Life Sentence", you mean something that needs to be managed throughout the rest of your life, and that could shorten it as well (just like MANY chronic conditions, acquired or not), then yes.

    If you are spreading FUD about HIV, especially in comparison to other conditions, then you are a piece of trash that needs some education.
  • Sincityfan

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    Feb 22, 2013 12:43 AM GMT
    yourname2000 said
    intensity69 said
    Sincityfan saidHIV IS STILL A LIFE SENTENCE.


    If by "Life Sentence", you mean something that needs to be managed throughout the rest of your life, and that could shorten it as well (just like MANY chronic conditions, acquired or not), then yes.

    If you are spreading FUD about HIV, especially in comparison to other conditions, then you are a piece of trash that needs some education.

    +1

    Fucking idiotic thing to say...especially in the context of a "would you be friends with..." thread. icon_rolleyes.gif You're an ass, Sin.


    It ain't my fault ppl r ignorant, thinking that HIV doesn't affect ur life and that itll all be fine as long as u pop a pill
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    Feb 22, 2013 12:55 AM GMT
    Sincityfan said
    yourname2000 said
    intensity69 said
    Sincityfan saidHIV IS STILL A LIFE SENTENCE.


    If by "Life Sentence", you mean something that needs to be managed throughout the rest of your life, and that could shorten it as well (just like MANY chronic conditions, acquired or not), then yes.

    If you are spreading FUD about HIV, especially in comparison to other conditions, then you are a piece of trash that needs some education.

    +1

    Fucking idiotic thing to say...especially in the context of a "would you be friends with..." thread. icon_rolleyes.gif You're an ass, Sin.


    It ain't my fault ppl r ignorant, thinking that HIV doesn't affect ur life and that itll all be fine as long as u pop a pill


    AS YN2k said, for friendship it should not matter in the least.

    As for the health effects, was that not what I was saying? And there's a ton of OTHER conditions you can contract that will similarly have negative health effects. But your single-minded demonization of HIV ignores everything else, and demonstrates that you have an irrational fear/hatred/loathing towards HIV+ guys.

    For shame.
  • Sincityfan

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    Feb 22, 2013 12:56 AM GMT
    yourname2000 said
    Sincityfan said
    yourname2000 said
    intensity69 said
    Sincityfan saidHIV IS STILL A LIFE SENTENCE.


    If by "Life Sentence", you mean something that needs to be managed throughout the rest of your life, and that could shorten it as well (just like MANY chronic conditions, acquired or not), then yes.

    If you are spreading FUD about HIV, especially in comparison to other conditions, then you are a piece of trash that needs some education.

    +1

    Fucking idiotic thing to say...especially in the context of a "would you be friends with..." thread. icon_rolleyes.gif You're an ass, Sin.


    It ain't my fault ppl r ignorant, thinking that HIV doesn't affect ur life and that itll all be fine as long as u pop a pill

    You're the ignorant fool. It's impossible to get HIV from a friend (unless you're having unprotected sex or sharing a needle)....as a gay guy, you need to be better informed. And until you are, you should probably shut the fuck up.


    of course you cant get it just by being their friend this isn't the 1990s
    the pool doesnt have aids
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    Feb 22, 2013 12:57 AM GMT
    Sincityfan saidHIV IS STILL A LIFE SENTENCE.


    Life is a life sentence. No one is immortal.
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    Feb 22, 2013 2:02 AM GMT
    After reading these posts I've decided that I only want to be friends with people with HIV.
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    Feb 22, 2013 2:21 AM GMT
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    Feb 22, 2013 2:30 AM GMT
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    Feb 22, 2013 7:21 PM GMT
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    Feb 22, 2013 7:33 PM GMT
    Renk saidSo I was reading a over the discussion about whether someone would avoid HIV+ guys like the plague or not and I noticed something interesting. A fair number of guys were saying that they would be friends with someone that was HIV+ but that they could never be in a relationship with one. While I can understand that train of thought, the thing that I find interesting is that there seems to be an underlying assumption that you all know the HIV status of all your friends. Maybe I was reading too much into this but to have someone say they would be willing to be friends with a guy that was HIV+ makes it sound like they aren't already friends with someone that has HIV. I'm just curious why there is this assumption out there that a person with HIV is someone you don't know... just an odd way of seeing the world.


    I think that's one of the reasons it's still spreading. Guys assume the hot healthy looking guy they're bare backing with couldn't possibly have it.
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    Apr 19, 2013 3:05 AM GMT
    Why do people starts a post with "so"????
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    Apr 19, 2013 4:12 AM GMT
    i don't think it matters if anyone is hiv+ or not. they put their pants on same as everyone else in the mornin. i would never turn away someone just because they were positive, either in friendship or dating.
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    Apr 20, 2013 4:27 PM GMT
    i don't understand why people discriminate so much , i think we dont quite have hiv here in iraq & never actually saw a poz guy in real or heard of it.
    i wish everyone embraces such people who are treated worse than the disease

    shit , its inhumane

    & talk of loving the neighbors
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    Apr 20, 2013 4:38 PM GMT
    I am friends with a +poz guy. Actually he's been my best friend for over 10 yrs now. He's been pos for the past 3 yrs.
    I'll tell you....the only time I was nervous about it was when we were hiking 2 yrs back, and he took a nasty tumble. Blood everywhere....broken bone....bleh. Helped him clean up and bandaged him. He was more nervous about the amount of his blood on me, than I was. We both had scratches and cuts from the hike already.
    Even though 2 yrs have passed, every 6 mos., like clockwork, he makes me go get tested. icon_lol.gif He's my best friend! icon_cool.gificon_redface.gificon_biggrin.gif

    Tristan