What is the source of homosexuality?

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    Feb 23, 2013 7:48 PM GMT
    Getting poked in the booty at an EARLY age usually will do it
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    Feb 23, 2013 7:48 PM GMT
    If soy made you gay, half of Asia would be gay.
    I'd never heard of soy until age 15.
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    Feb 23, 2013 9:13 PM GMT
    meninlove said

    *reads LONG post by Curiousjock about a BISEXUAL he knows that fell in love with a woman*
    Nice story Curiousjock, but nothing to do with gay.



    No, it has EVERYTHING to do with GAY and the topic of THIS thread. There are different degrees of gay (i.e. The Kinsey Scale and their 1-to-10 theory) and "sexual orientation" is a personal and unique situation for every individual. As Art_Deco pointed out, some people move up and down that scale over time --- I'd say his own life experience is a case in point.
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    Feb 23, 2013 9:23 PM GMT
    ART_DECO saidGo cure yourself, and go to Hell for all I care, but leave the rest of us alone. I'm quite happy living the way Nature intended me to be.



    Who here is trying to cure you or even suggesting GAY is something that can or even needs to be cured.?
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    Feb 23, 2013 9:26 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    meninlove said

    *reads LONG post by Curiousjock about a BISEXUAL he knows that fell in love with a woman*
    Nice story Curiousjock, but nothing to do with gay.



    No, it has EVERYTHING to do with GAY and the topic of THIS thread. There are different degrees of gay (i.e. The Kinsey Scale and their 1-to-10 theory) and "sexual orientation" is a personal and unique situation for every individual. As Art_Deco pointed out, some people move up and down that scale over time --- I'd say his own life experience is a case in point.


    *sighs* Nice theory, Curious. But relative hogwash.

    ..I think you don't how to read that scale or understand that the polar ends are the polar ends. Gay at one end and straight at the other. Everyone in between has the fluidity you mention, making them Bi. Or did you think bisexuality meant a 50/50 split in attraction to men and women?
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    Feb 23, 2013 9:33 PM GMT
    meninlove said
    *sighs* Nice theory, Curious. But relative hogwash.

    ..I think you don't how to read that scale or understand that the polar ends are the polar ends. Gay at one end and straight at the other. Everyone in between has the fluidity you mention, making them Bi. Or did you think bisexuality meant a 50/50 split in attraction to men and women?



    You're entitled to your opinion. I am pretty certain that if you asked 100 guys on here where they think they are on the Kinsey Scale, you would get a variety of answers and they won't all be 10's. Sorry, but everyone has a different experience on their road to discovering their own sexuality -- it simply isn't the same for everybody, and it doesn't necessarily stay at the same point of the scale their entire life.
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    Feb 23, 2013 9:37 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    meninlove said
    *sighs* Nice theory, Curious. But relative hogwash.

    ..I think you don't how to read that scale or understand that the polar ends are the polar ends. Gay at one end and straight at the other. Everyone in between has the fluidity you mention, making them Bi. Or did you think bisexuality meant a 50/50 split in attraction to men and women?



    You're entitled to your opinion. I am pretty certain that if you asked 100 guys on here where they think they are on the Kinsey Scale, you would get a variety of answers and they won't all be 10's. Sorry, but everyone has a different experience on their road to discovering their own sexuality -- it simply isn't the same for everybody, and it doesn't necessarily stay at the same point of the scale their entire life.


    Kinsey is 1-6, not 1-10...
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    Feb 23, 2013 9:38 PM GMT
    @ Curiousjock; thankfully though I'm not voicing just my own opinion.

    Your reasoning reminds me of people on the vegetarian/ meateater 'kinsey scale' where you get some people declaring they are not on the sliding scale of omnivore but are really vegetarians that sometimes eat meat.

    However, unlike vegetarians/meateasters there is NO choice in whether you are gay or straight, for those of us that are 100% one or the other.
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    Feb 23, 2013 9:42 PM GMT
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    Medjai saidKinsey is 1-6, not 1-10...

    Todd doesn't have to be accurate, because he's pretty. It's one of the rules of this website. Look it up.
    Instead of being concerned about the source of homosexuality, we should be more concerned about the origins of Aristoshark's mental instability.
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    Feb 24, 2013 2:45 AM GMT
    To the OP: You already correctly answered your question, in the first sentence of your Opening Post.
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    Feb 24, 2013 3:38 AM GMT
    meninlove said
    However, unlike vegetarians/meateasters there is NO choice in whether you are gay or straight, for those of us that are 100% one or the other.


    Never said there was a choice for anyone...people are what they are at any given time. I'm just saying that sometimes that changes. Not everybody is 100% throughout their lives. Regardless, we all have varying opinions about this, and I'm not aware of anyone having the definitive answer, so it's kind of silly to argue about it.
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    Feb 24, 2013 3:39 AM GMT
    Good dick or a tight asshole
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    Feb 24, 2013 3:42 AM GMT
    Aristoshark said
    Medjai saidKinsey is 1-6, not 1-10...

    Todd doesn't have to be accurate, because he's pretty. It's one of the rules of this website. Look it up.



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    Feb 24, 2013 3:43 AM GMT
    nature/nuture
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    A phat ass and a stiff cock!
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    Feb 24, 2013 5:35 AM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    meninlove said

    *reads LONG post by Curiousjock about a BISEXUAL he knows that fell in love with a woman*
    Nice story Curiousjock, but nothing to do with gay.



    No, it has EVERYTHING to do with GAY and the topic of THIS thread. There are different degrees of gay (i.e. The Kinsey Scale and their 1-to-10 theory) and "sexual orientation" is a personal and unique situation for every individual. As Art_Deco pointed out, some people move up and down that scale over time --- I'd say his own life experience is a case in point.

    And you'd be wrong as usual, and about me deliberately.
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    meninlove said
    However, unlike vegetarians/meateasters there is NO choice in whether you are gay or straight, for those of us that are 100% one or the other.


    Never said there was a choice for anyone...people are what they are at any given time. I'm just saying that sometimes that changes. Not everybody is 100% throughout their lives. Regardless, we all have varying opinions about this, and I'm not aware of anyone having the definitive answer, so it's kind of silly to argue about it.


    Curious, you earlier said a gay man evolved into a straight one. Repugnant but telling choice of words.
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    CuriousJockAZ said
    meninlove said
    However, unlike vegetarians/meateasters there is NO choice in whether you are gay or straight, for those of us that are 100% one or the other.


    Never said there was a choice for anyone...people are what they are at any given time. I'm just saying that sometimes that changes. Not everybody is 100% throughout their lives. Regardless, we all have varying opinions about this, and I'm not aware of anyone having the definitive answer, so it's kind of silly to argue about it.


    Agree. On a 1-10 queerness scale I was probably a 6 or 7 at one time and now down to about a 3 of so. External / environmental factors, yes. I would have to say that would be a couple of years on RJ. icon_wink.gif
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    Feb 24, 2013 6:31 PM GMT
    Too many fruits, not enough vegetables.
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    Feb 24, 2013 7:48 PM GMT
    There might not be a source, honestly. There might not be an answer that is that 'easy.' Source implies some purity that cannot be broken down, an elemental reason.

    However me and my best friend were talking about sexual orientation. In truth I think people get tired of it all. They get tired of the stereotypical heterosexual social system. It is very much 'shoved down our throats' for one, even if the reasons people do that are understandable and good intentions. Plus to be a 'straight guy' a man often feels like he either has to be this cruel prick or this sort of logical unfeeling hero.

    In the same way sometimes people get plain tired/bored of homoeroticsm and want to experience the heterosexual dynamic again. There is no 'source' because as Andrew Sullivan said, they are more relateable than people want to think.
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    Feb 24, 2013 7:59 PM GMT
    I blame Barbara Bush...
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    Feb 24, 2013 7:59 PM GMT
    for example in school it was annoyingly heterosexist. we had to have boy-girl-boy-girl-boy-girl pairs. Gay jokes ran supreme. Being called 'gay' was the worst thing you could call somebody. Nobody wanted to be that thing. So imagine how left out people feel if they are that thing nobody wants to be.

    in the same token, gay pride parades and rainbow flags and constant gay rights speeches gets old too. People kinda go 'what's the point' and instead might find themselves once again tantalized by heterosexuality. Often a white middle class male will ping pong back and forth between the perks of a gay lifestyle and the perks of a straight one.

    The thing what people don't realize is nobody wants to be *forced* or indoctrinated into anything, whether homosexual or heterosexual. They want to come onto anything on their own terms.

    and we would lose all this 'gay/straight' bullshit, and bisexual too - as that's just another label, we would lose that in an ideal world where people would allow others to explore what they really want. but since we don't live in a perfect world, categorizes exist out of rational purposes. That's the best answer i can give.

    I'm biased to gay because i never really fit into the 'alpha str8 male pack anyway.' Why would I want to be part of that group that never really accepted me to begin with? who knows, if i felt that straight people were genuinely kinder to me maybe i would open up to being straight as sexual orientation isn't this ultra static thing. if i was around more straight people i would get influenced into what they like but most of the time i'm comfortable hanging around other gay men or at least, straights who are very supportive. usually mostly gay guys and one or two straight men.

    being straight disgusts me the way being gay in all reality disgusts straight people. the politically incorrect truth might be everybody is repressing something they don't want to be, but in all possibility could be with the right social components. i don't like vagina even though i'm turned on by it. A "straight" man is the opposite. There's no source because it's influenced way way way way way way waaaay too much by social factors. And that's just the way it is!


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    Feb 24, 2013 8:06 PM GMT
    It has to be a naturally occurring biological variant. The closest approximations I can think of are how some people have two different-colored irises or how others have no earlobes. It's different, yes, but otherwise harmless.

    I mean, how else do you account for the wide array of gay animals across species? Certainly their survival is more fragile than our own and more dependent upon procreation, yet there are elephants who never engage in heterosexual sex in their long lifetimes, while varieties of female birds will partner off to raise adopted eggs and chicks, none of this to the detriment of the species.