No Black Nurses Request

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    Feb 22, 2013 4:58 PM GMT
    imbrad saidThat nurse needs to think about the patient, not her own "distress, harassment and humiliation". I don't agree with the nazi bastard but something has to be said for putting patient care first. I know it's not the same but I have been treated differently by patients (and doctors) because I am a male. Some people don't want a male dental assistant working on them. It's stupid but... I'm not so I'm ok with that. If your personal wellbeing is so delicate that some nazi breeder can upset you so much you need to go look in the mirror and give yourself a hug.
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    Well that's just stupid. you're missing the point. The father is not the issue here. The issue is her employer which decided to use bad judgement in the way the situation was handled. He can ask for whatever he wants however the hospital does not have to carry out his bigotry to their employees. How productive would you be in your office if u knew u didn't have the support of your co-wrkers, there is a bigger picture here.
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    Feb 22, 2013 5:10 PM GMT
    BlkMuscleGent said
    When you've been treated like worthless shit because of your skin color over and over again, and when you know what actually constitutes a frivolous lawsuit, then feel free to write such nonsense.


    My statement is not a racial one. Culturally, Americans love to sue for an easy ride, or for revenge, or to make a point,nets. Point is, that's how conflicts are addressed, reasonable or not. This is another example. You have no idea what her life has been like either. This could have been her first run in with racism and she's milking it for all she is worth.

    Besides, the hospital denied the request. The note was attached by another employee without higher approval, and was denied as soon as a higher up heard about it. That employee should be disciplined. The hospital handled this reasonably and fairly. But a person doesn't have the funds for a free ride, so she has to target the hospital, right?
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    Feb 22, 2013 5:25 PM GMT
    Medjai said
    BlkMuscleGent said
    When you've been treated like worthless shit because of your skin color over and over again, and when you know what actually constitutes a frivolous lawsuit, then feel free to write such nonsense.


    My statement is not a racial one. Culturally, Americans love to sue for an easy ride, or for revenge, or to make a point,nets. Point is, that's how conflicts are addressed, reasonable or not. This is another example. You have no idea what her life has been like either. This could have been her first run in with racism and she's milking it for all she is worth.

    Besides, the hospital denied the request. The note was attached by another employee without higher approval, and was denied as soon as a higher up heard about it. That employee should be disciplined. The hospital handled this reasonably and fairly. But a person doesn't have the funds for a free ride, so she has to target the hospital, right?


    You talk as though you have inside information. truth is u read or heard the same things we have. I don't know her or how she carries thru life on a daily basis. I do know as a person of color my experience in America not Canada but America. frm that alone I get it. where did u read it was a co-wrkr and not her supervisior? pls link article as we didn't read the same and yours sounds very different frm the one read.

    It's so easy for u to discount her experience as your not a person of color or American and I doubt you can relate to her experience as a woman in this country which everyone keeps telling us racisim no longer exisits but examples seem to appear time after time....
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    Feb 22, 2013 5:28 PM GMT
    Hillie said
    You talk as though you have inside information. truth is u read or heard the same things we have. I don't know her or how she carries thru life on a daily basis. I do know as a person of color my experience in America not Canada but America. frm that alone I get it. where did u read it was a co-wrkr and not her supervisior? pls link article as we didn't read the same and yours sounds very different frm the one read.

    It's so easy for u to discount her experience as your not a person of color or American and I doubt you can relate to her experience as a woman in this country which everyone keeps telling us racisim no longer exisits but examples seem to appear time after time....


    I never said it couldn't be rampant racism. I said it seemed to me that it was more likely a cash grab.

    Where do you get supervisor or hospital from? According to the article, the request was denied once a supervisor of some kind found out. That suggests peer. She's suing the institution that supported her. That's why I see cash grab.
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    Feb 22, 2013 5:45 PM GMT
    Medjai said
    Hillie said
    You talk as though you have inside information. truth is u read or heard the same things we have. I don't know her or how she carries thru life on a daily basis. I do know as a person of color my experience in America not Canada but America. frm that alone I get it. where did u read it was a co-wrkr and not her supervisior? pls link article as we didn't read the same and yours sounds very different frm the one read.

    It's so easy for u to discount her experience as your not a person of color or American and I doubt you can relate to her experience as a woman in this country which everyone keeps telling us racisim no longer exisits but examples seem to appear time after time....


    I never said it couldn't be rampant racism. I said it seemed to me that it was more likely a cash grab.

    Where do you get supervisor or hospital from? According to the article, the request was denied once a supervisor of some kind found out. That suggests peer. She's suing the institution that supported her. That's why I see cash grab.


    The article I read said once the father witnessed the care of the blk nurse he immediately request for no one other than whites care for his child. sometime after his meeting w/ her supervisor the note/ sign was posted. that suggests not her co-wrks but her supervisior. She should have never been subjected to seeing such a thing.
    neither of us truly know but can only sepculate. what I will say if she had the support of the hospital, administration would have never let it get this far.

    At my hospital a patient recently said he did not want any Indian nurses caring for him during his stay. He asked to speak to the head nurse who was spanish and he was upset about that so he then asked to speak to the administarator on duty who happenend to be a Indian woman. One of the most satisfying days I've had at wrk.
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    Feb 22, 2013 5:54 PM GMT
    imbrad saidThis is not discrimination, it's a non issue that didn't need to be pushed, so they didn't. She could have handled this internally or MAYBE taught the guy something about love, compassion, change, professionalism...

    Nazi doesn't want a black nurse? Fine. People are wrong a lot of the time, go do your job.


    As a healthcare professional, I have often been in the situation to accomodate various requests from patients. Other posters have pointed out that it typically is a request because of gender (which I believe is appropriate, when that request can be accomodated).

    However, this case of the African American nurse, IS discrimination. The US Equal Employment Opportunity Commission links to all applicable laws regarding workplace discrimination including the 1964 Civil Rights act. (http://www.eeoc.gov/laws/types/race_color.cfm). They note that "The law forbids discrimination when it comes to any aspect of employment, including hiring, firing, pay, job assignments, promotions, layoff, training, fringe benefits, and any other term or condition of employment." I'm no lawyer, but it would appear that this is a clear cut case of discrimination and would be illegal.

    Legality aside, I'm disappointed in the way this was handled by the hospital because it does set a dangerous precedent. Other posters have mentioned, what's next? No gay nurses? No Muslim nurses? It shows that the employer didn't have the employee's back. Well functioning hospitals require a team-sport mentality and you're only as strong as your weakest link. Perhaps this is a blessing in disguise for the nurse because now, at least, she won't be working for an organization that declines to support her.

    If I had been in that situation, I would have advised the family that the request could not be accomodated and (assuming the patient was stable for transfer) offer to transfer the patient to a different facility that was willing to accept.

  • Sportsfan1

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    Feb 22, 2013 5:58 PM GMT
    Never ceases to amaze me that in this day and age we still see things likes this from time to time. Racism still exists and this is a prime example of it. This should not be tolerated at all. The brave nurse that is bringing charges should be applauded and supported not questioned in any way. This so called father should have been told that the hospital has a policy of non-discrimination. PERIOD.
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    Feb 22, 2013 5:58 PM GMT
    The hospital discriminated against her by complying with the request of a racist to have her kept from caring for his baby based on her race. So of course she is right to sue. And of course she suffered humiliation and distress, as would anyone who was subject to such bigotry, as would a gay person if they were discriminated against by a hospital based on someone's request for no homosexual nurses to care for someone's baby.