So I walked into a "Vote No on Pro 8" headquarters and...

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    Oct 10, 2008 5:22 AM GMT
    ...I was thinkin l'd help promote the cause to extend marriage to gays in teh state of California by getting some "Vote No on Prop" shizz.

    I should have known ahead of time that this wasn't a good place since it was right next to Trader Joes. One of the Vote No peoples came up to me. I couldn't tell if it was a Lesbian without boobs or a gay guy that was pre-op.

    Here's how the conversation went:

    me: "Hey do you guys have any stickers that I can like put on my car?"

    he-she: "Yeah we do. Do you want TWO?"

    me: "Sure!"

    he-she: "Do you want a sign too?"

    me: "I don't have a front lawn so I dunno where to put it."

    he-she: "Oh you can hang it up in your window."

    me: "Okay sounds good yeh"

    he-she: "So you know you can be doing a lot more help if you gave us your information"

    me: "Ohhhhhh no. Last time I gave my info to anything gay I got FIVE gay organizations sending me letters for YEARS!"

    he-she: "Well if you have time you could be making calls with the rest of us to undecided voters" (points to the back where there's dozens of smelly awkward looking gay people were either on the phone or starring aimlessly into the walls)

    me: "Well I am going out of my way to promote the cause by displaying these stickers right?"

    he-she: "To be honest that won't make a difference at all. You're not helping us at all."

    me: "What??? lol Sooooo do you want these BACK now?"

    he-she: "No, keep them. It's not hard to make calls."

    me: "Listen I'm not a customer service kinda guy. If I ever called someone and they said they're voting yes on prop 8, I'd probably call them an asshole then tell them to kill themselves. Do you really want me to make calls now?"

    (I laugh...followed by an awkward pause)

    he-she: "You know, I have better things to do"

    (he-she walks away)

    I almost felt like throwing the stickers on the floor, but then I forgot that I had the same interest in these deranged ultra-leftists with no sense of humor.

    fucking fagsicon_rolleyes.gif They must've crawled out of Trader Hos next door.icon_lol.gif
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    Oct 10, 2008 5:27 AM GMT
    Sounds like car salesman type of pitch icon_confused.gif
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    Oct 10, 2008 5:29 AM GMT
    glenn77 saidSounds like car salesman type of pitch icon_confused.gif

    OMG that's exactly what it was! I walked into a GAY CAR SALES PLACE! It was so awful.

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    Oct 10, 2008 5:38 AM GMT
    Actually, as some of you know, I have been trying to create my own series of Public Service Announcements against Prop 8. Well, one of the people who has helped me (and is a good friend) is a Gay rights activist named Mandy Carter. Another is a wonderful man I met right here on RJ, named Rich B. Another is Mitchell Gold. If you wanna find out about them, just visit my website,

    Anyway, when I approached Equality California in the hopes they might be able to help me, or simply link to or run my spots, they basically said to me that they have been doing this type of grassroots work for years, that they are very well-funded and connected, and then they went on to tell me that my 30 years in the business of making commercials and PSA's was nothing, and that I didn't know what I was doing compared to their expertise and experience. Later, a working partner of mine who is also a very experienced filmmaker was told almost exactly the same thing by Equality California. Later, the head of the NAACP in California told me she wasn't interested in getting involved, or even speaking briefly on camera, and frankly the Human Rights Campaign was so disinterested that they never even called me back.

    Believe it or not, the most positive resonses I got were from a Christian Organization called Faith In America (you'll see the kickoff video I shot for Mitchell Gold and their book CRISIS on my website and their website); the Log Cabin Republicans expressed interest, and two different MORMON groups who are fighting Prop 8 also were far more willing to talk with me, and put up links, than any of the so-called liberal groups that are tooting their own horns about this issue.

    So, what happened to you sounds like the same bullshit I and my friends have encountered.
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    Oct 10, 2008 5:41 AM GMT
    Zeeb, wow scary story! Sometimes I wonder if these kind of left-wing people live right next door to the Scientology building and the illogical pompous arrogance from next door just seeps into their brains while their sleeping.
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    Oct 10, 2008 5:47 AM GMT
    Well Jake, it makes me wonder if they (the liberals) are involved in humanitarian causes from a sense of empathy, or from a sense of noblesse oblige, or are they trying to assuage a guilty conscience, or are they doing just to further their own careers?

    Because, based on what I've experienced, and what you've related, they sure as hell aren't doing it out of any real desire to help at a grassroots level.

    It's like the attitude, "Yeah, sure, I'll help the poor and downtrodden because untimately it will help me as well, as long as I don't have to actually interact with them."