Id like to see people's reaction to this video...either a person who eats meat and those that don't...

  • trebor965

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    Sep 06, 2007 9:32 AM GMT
    my comments on the clip...it is really disturbing. it sickens me that i feel like i am being lied to about what i eat. how can our school systems, grocery stores, fast food joints, distributors, resturants buy this food for living things to consume. this goes the same for the way that some veggies are farmed also. we are consuming violence, apathy, and ignorance. not to mention the amount of poisons, and disease. i am not a vegetarian, i eat meat sometimes. when i do eat meat i try to get a local organic trusted farmed product, which in my area is common. i also grow all my own vegetables, due to the fact that i cant trust our grocery stores to not contaminate our food supply. i know i sound crazy, but i lived in the midwest for a while, where ground beef and potatoes was the answer to everything, and I also worked in the resturant business for a while, and have seen some things. well i am rambling, but to sum it up be wise, your money is your vote, educate yourself to grow your own food.
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    Sep 06, 2007 12:22 PM GMT
    "And Doc Obscene, whats up with that devil Cat of yours? You should call that Jesus guy that comes to your house to exorcise it .. or at least get it some visine!"

    I think Mr. Mew knows that as long as his eyes are bright red, I'm not going to eat him.

    The faith healer is still coming over every Sunday to do work on the house while spreading the good news about Jesus.
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    Sep 06, 2007 3:30 PM GMT
    The video was of course vile and there are others just like it. It's obviously the norm so seeing stuff like this isn't too difficult.

    That said, I can't give up my eggs and meat but I'm willing to put my money where my mouth is. For those who a) are willing b) have the resources and c) are willing to put in a bit of extra effort, a great site is the Certified Humane website.

    It's easy to fall for the "free range" or "cage free" label but the "Certified Humane Raised and Handled" is an extra measure of assurance.

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    Sep 06, 2007 3:40 PM GMT
    I didnt change my opinion a bit...Im a carnivore and always will be one...jsut ate turkey bacon...YUM....will have more chicken for lunch....beef for dinner...

    this weekend...Im making VEAL PARMIGIAN...you hadnt lived until youve eaten my veal (baby cow) parmigian...YUMMMMM MEEE....

    then for breakfast im making eggs and bacon and apple/chicken sausage....

    Who ever wants to come over and savor the delights of carnivorism with me...CMON DOWN!!!

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    Sep 06, 2007 4:05 PM GMT
    Wow that wasn't very mature. It's not my duty to argue with you, but you could at least be a little more compassionate and mature about the topic. Your response just proves how much you live in denial. I hope you see it one day :)
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    Sep 06, 2007 4:08 PM GMT
    I originally became a vegetarian due to my disgust with factory farming and thereafter added other reasons for it. It's amazing that people think nothing of consuming other lifeforms where such massive destruction and degradation takes place. Of course, this prizing of human life (and whimsical human consumption)over all else is leading us to irrevocably alter our planet, warm our oceans, and poison our air. And all for what? For a bit of pleasure that lasts a few minutes. Factory farming is a symptom of a larger societal disease...and we are quite sick.

    What I'd love to know is how some so-called "animal lovers" who go all ape-shit when the see/hear of mistreatment to cats & dogs don't think twice about the homocidal treatment that greats cows, chickens, and pigs. If someone wants to consume meat then by all means, do that; however, don't do it out of ignorance and know that everytime you do you're (potentially) supporting murderous and pathological practices.
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    Sep 06, 2007 4:10 PM GMT
    I would come eat with you mascjockatl, that all sounds great. my personal theory about vegans-"they are killing the planet by slowly sufficating all other lifeforms." I could really go for a double quarter pounder with cheese, or a nice peice of steak, medium rare.
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    Sep 06, 2007 4:17 PM GMT
    Wow, hilarious. Why are people so defensive of their meat and so immature about the topic? I'm only 20 years old and these people are what...40?! I know age has nothing to do with maturity, but I wonder what these guys have done to better our world and bring peace in their 40 years of existence. Do they have reason to argue?
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    Sep 06, 2007 4:28 PM GMT
    AutomaticFeeling, it's because they (and we) do not have to walk into a slaughterhouse to get said beef, poultry, pork, etc.

    I wager most people today would have a much tougher time if they had to face that and I'm not even suggesting the more extreme view of saying they need to be able to do the slaughtering themselves.
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    Sep 06, 2007 4:32 PM GMT
    Hey automatic...Im jsut having some fun...lighten up...go throw some red paint on fur coat wearers or picket a chicken processing plant...

    You choose your lifestyle....I choose mine...I choose to eat beef and chicken and turkey and fish...etc...etc...so if that is immature...I guess Im a child....been called worse...

    But seriously, I have yet to meet a vegan who looked healthy...these animals were put on this earth for a reason...to provide meat and nutritional sustance to carnivores...

    if youve seen the studies on the brain size and mental capacity of a chicken or a turkey or a cow....you would realize that this is their only value...if you compared them to humans as far as brain capacity...they would be considered "vegetables" and on life support...

    So I have no trouble eating them ....

    And I feed my children plenty of Beef and Chicken and Turkey and am proud to be raising another generation of Carnivores.

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    Sep 06, 2007 5:01 PM GMT
    I understand it's a joke, but its not nice :(

    Unfortunately there are a lot of unhealthy vegans because they don't know how to eat right due to all the processed junk food out there. Some have the best intentions...some don't. Same can be said about meat eaters. I've never seen a healthy meat eater :P

    www.veganbodybuilding.com

    I just want to put the evidence out there. Not forcing you to look at it, but it shows vegans can in fact be extraordinarily healthy. If you can find something that claims meat gives unlimited amounts of energy, health, and happiness then I will definitely read it. :)
  • fryblock

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    Sep 06, 2007 5:22 PM GMT
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    Sep 06, 2007 5:24 PM GMT
    woops. so i dont know how to insert a picture.

    http://www.unpunk.com/~matt/comicvegan.jpg

    there.
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    Sep 06, 2007 5:37 PM GMT
    RE: mascjock

    You're a very cute guy but really, "they were put here for the sustenance of carnivores...they're not that smart so why not?"

    Um, by that logic, many people deserve to be slaughtered for others. Why not eat dogs (some of them are quite stupid), cats (some of them are quite stupid as well), and anything else which fails to the standard you assume to be set by human beings. Aside from the animal ethics standpoint, much of the water usage and pollution comes from factory farming. While you might wanna raise your kids to be carnivores, I'm assuming you want them to have water to drink and a clean environment? It's amazing that you, as a parent, are so basic about this issue. No offense.
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    Sep 06, 2007 5:42 PM GMT
    fryblock, the tag is img src="the entire image URL in quotes", and there is no closing tag needed after.
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    Sep 06, 2007 5:49 PM GMT
    Jackal...seriously now...these animals have virtually no brain capacity...they can do very little thinking beyond knowing to eat and reproduce....what value do they bring if not for food????

    We dont eat dogs ...but come cultures do....because they are intelligent creatures...though the vietnamese do because they dont have as many meat animals there...ever been to viet nam????

    Red meat has many vital vitamins and oils are body needs...like CLA...conjugated linolic acid...vegans are lacking in this essential acid and thus their body is not firing on all pistons...

    But, Im not here to convince you to eat meat...i realize its not going to happen and I couldnt give a shit what you eat...

    BUT DONT TELL ME HOW TO FEED MY CHILDREN...EVER!!! Ill put the healthiness of my 5yo up against your health any day of the week!!

    by the way....I made beef Stew for dinner...YUMMMMMMM....its simmering in the crock pot as we speak!!
  • fryblock

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    Sep 06, 2007 5:51 PM GMT
    mascjock-

    i am a healthy vegan. i watch what i eat and it is all balanced. sure, i may be thin, but i'm 15 pounds heavier than i was before i went vegan.
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    Sep 06, 2007 5:53 PM GMT
    img src="http://www.dlist.com/viewmedia.do?mid=558293&redir=http://www.dlist.com/search.do%3Fpage%3D1%26nr%3D48%23558293"
  • fryblock

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    Sep 06, 2007 5:53 PM GMT
    ok i suck at this. and that wasn't even the right link....
  • fryblock

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    Sep 06, 2007 5:54 PM GMT
    comicvegan.jpg
  • fryblock

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    Sep 06, 2007 5:54 PM GMT
    YAHTZEE! figured it out! thanks paradox
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    Sep 06, 2007 5:57 PM GMT
    His ignorance leaves me in awe.
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    Sep 06, 2007 5:58 PM GMT
    I'll have to 22oz Prime Rib... i'd like that to still be mooing please.

    And as an appetizer i'd like the bacon wrapped scallops.
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    Sep 06, 2007 5:59 PM GMT
    Actually, you failed to respond to the environmental objections I raised to a meat-based diet, but that's fine...I doubted a few words would change your mind.

    I don't know where you've been looking, but vegetarians (which I refer to, though we can include healthy vegans) tend to look MUCH better than meat eaters and/or people who eat excess amounts of meat. Now, that's not to say that's solely because they only have veggies, but the human body does have an easier time processing veggies as opposed to meat (which it can break down, albeit with more effort). In terms of vitamins, minerals, amino acids, and the like, you'll have a hard time showing meat to be overwhelmingly superior to vegetables and fruit...but again, do what you want.

    The logic of "they're stupid so just let them die for our consumption" is a bit grotesque for my tastes, so I'll leave you to that. Good day!
  • fryblock

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    Sep 06, 2007 6:00 PM GMT
    Today, CLA is made from a process that uses 100 percent safflower oil.