BTW Triggerman since you got all the bravado to say what you wanna say...why don't you be the big bright cheif so that everyone can follow huh?
Do you know any Mormon people?
Do you know any Mormon gays?
Do you know any excommunicated LDS who were former Missionaries who are currently gay and how they combat this issue?
Do you know how they address one another....they never call each other Mormon! It's LDS and / or brother or sister.
Do you know how they (the opposition) collected the money and what they did to it within the State of CA so that they could do what they could do?
What about the partners that they developed with in the State so that they could produce and show those vile commercials.
Do you know who they are?
Did the gay organizations in CA do enough to find out about their opposing side(s) when trying to understand what they were going to do to defeat Prop 8?
AND if so why did they not do anything about , or waited so late to respond or not take the threat seriously.
When it happend to us in Hawaii where was our support from out of state?
When it comes to the dynamics of all this in CA many cite race as a factor in loosing Prop 8. What are the gay organizations going to do to combat that achilles heel? In the 90's the loudest, richest, seemingly most educated gay men in Hawaii were white. They survived the AIDS epidemic here in Honolulu relatively well as for the rest of the non-white gay people.
Filipinos, Portuguese, Hawaiians, Samoans, bi/tri/quad racials with and without white, Chinese, Japanese and Vietnamese relatively languished and died because the majority of the populace thought only white , loud, rich gay men had AIDS, hence they got the attention and therefore they got the help. My take is that its almost the same there in CA. I worked AIDS hospice thru the 90;s and buried a lot LOT of people. I purposefully PUT myself there...albiet not as verbose as you...but I make sure that I am seen and participate so that folks know that there ARE others NOT like them striving for the same goal maybe from a different stand point but nonetheless striving! You don't have to like me, you don't even have to engage with me but I have a right to be here too. If you don't like what I have to say or you just don't like me because Im different then bruddah thats your problem.
BTW like the bod, like the face don't like the tude nor the game! So Whatever!