orchestra for a jock

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    Dec 04, 2008 10:55 AM GMT
    When people find out I love orchestra they flip out.

    Do I not fit the profile of someone that can appreciate the sound and combined instrumental beauty?

    Orchestra in techno, rap, and metal, now that’s just awesome.

    Below are youtube videos of my favorite ones. Yeah they are soundtrack ones but those or the best. Look at them, see if you like um. Id love to hear your favs. Don't mistake orchestra for opera, Im not that gay lol. Yeah I'm gonna be called a big dorker for this

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    Dec 04, 2008 12:39 PM GMT
    Some of your selections have a moody romanticism to them. Here's Bernard Herrmann's score to The Ghost and Mrs. Muir, 1947. Note how he combines elements of the mysterious supernatural, with the power and romantic nature of the sea, here in a wonderful scene collage done by a YouTube contributor:

    Music of Erich Wolfgang Korngold, illustrating the fanfare motif he used in several Errol Flynn swashbucklers, this one The Sea Hawk from 1940. Many music critics consider this a precursor to the John Williams style, as used in movies like Star Wars:

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    Dec 04, 2008 12:41 PM GMT
    I was a classical Clarinetist before I went to Culinary school. I love classical music, don't let other people's stereotypes get you down, there's a reason Bach and other have been popular for more than 200 years
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    Dec 04, 2008 12:45 PM GMT
    I enjoyed all of them. I think your Gay Card is safe.
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    Dec 04, 2008 12:59 PM GMT
    The King Kong selection is a good example of good music (I own the movie). It reminds me of the stories that George Lucas would tell about the music for the first Star Wars movie when it came out. Disco was big at that time, and they knew they wanted a more transcendant soundtrack. Hence the John Williams music, the best movie soundtrack of all time.
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    Dec 04, 2008 1:28 PM GMT
    You need not worry about being called a big dorker by me... that you appreciate anything other than the Top Forty makes you awesome in my book.
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    Dec 04, 2008 1:48 PM GMT
    well I'm a bit biased... haha but i love orchestras and fusing them with anything else. check out my profile for some cool videos, I have a ton more bookmarked if anyone is interested. I think the key with classical music is you have to listen to it as loud as you would regular music, often times people just have it on softly in the background, and of course its boring! you cant hear it! haha well enjoyed all of your selections, played lord of the rings and pirates in a couple of orchestras icon_smile.gif
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    Dec 04, 2008 2:09 PM GMT
    Just be who you are and proud of it! I personally love that music, and we're not the only ones. Rock on icon_smile.gif
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    Dec 04, 2008 2:15 PM GMT
    Who gives a damn what anyone else thinks about your taste in music. I happen to love opera--all classical music in fact--as well as jazz, rock, etc. . . And just so you know, there are plenty of hot jocks who love classical music (not just orchestrations of popular music).
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    Dec 04, 2008 2:15 PM GMT
    "I love orchestra," I never heard it said that way. "I love an orchestra" or "I love orchestral music," but not just "I love orchestra." It took me a moment to figure out what you were saying. I thought maybe "orchestra" was the name of some new group.

    http://www.naxos.com/ has lot of interesting information on classical music....as well as classical music.
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    Dec 04, 2008 2:29 PM GMT
    I go to the Philadelphia Orchestra at least 2-3 times a season. I wouldn't say that I love orchestra, but I love music and I love being there watching those amazing musicians. Plus a friend of mine is a sales manager and always gets us amazing box seats!
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    Dec 04, 2008 2:32 PM GMT
    I can't understand why anyone would criticize you for liking orchestral music. After all, everyone hears it regularly in the movies as you note, and in TV shows and even commercials. It's all around us.

    Maybe it's actually so-called "serious" music they have trouble appreciating. I get criticized for liking & knowing Broadway show tunes, even within the gay community, it now having become something of an older generation cliche for us.

    But my equally old partner & I still love Broadway, and listen to nothing but show tunes and some serious classical on our car's satellite radio. Many of you wouldn't want to ride along with us on long trips, as we sing our little hearts out, knowing the lyrics to just about every Broadway musical ever written. LOL!

    Musical taste can be very personal, and should mostly remain immune from criticism.
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    Dec 04, 2008 2:37 PM GMT
    ONSLAUGHT saidWhen people find out I love orchestra they flip out.

    I have been "into" classical music since I went to college. And it looks like you're starting your interest at about the same point that I did.

    Back then, the equivalent of the movie scores you selected for us were also found in movies and television epics. For example, what got me going was Richard Rodgers score to the fabulous documentary on WWII, Victory at Sea.

    Then I tried for years to find out what Alfred Hitchcock had used for the wonderful culminating scenes in "The Man Who Knew Too Much"....a scene in which Doris Day stops the assasination of a prime minister in Royal Albert Hall, while the London Symphony Orchestra, large chorus and pipe organ were playing an awesome cantata. Back then, I couldn't find it, but it led me to my favorite composer, Ralph Vaughn Williams.

    Thanks to iTunes, I have since found it, and have a recording of it, Alfred Newman's "Cloud Cantata."

    Anyway, I retain my love of classical style movie scores. James Newton Howard's score for the movie "Signs" is wonderful. So is Howard Shore's score for "The Lord of the Rings."

    My love of classical music led me into a situation in which I do not know popular music to any great extent. By the way, much of the music you showed us would be classified as "New Age," There is a great set of CDs you can buy that I think you would like...."Pure Moods". Do a search on Amazon.com.

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    Dec 04, 2008 6:07 PM GMT
    Orchestras and symphonies are incredible.
    I was in symphony bands through my first few years of college, and loved it.
    But I really love the intensity of a marching band...such as:

    I love the MSU Spartan Marching Band.
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    Dec 04, 2008 7:44 PM GMT
    forget what other people think about you. Its what you like that matters.

    When i was n High school i played the Flute. I wanted to play saxapohne but started with flute and stuck with it. Everybody knew i played the flute .

    I was known as the popular Jock Flute Guy. Cuz i did sports like track and football and played the flute. No one cared i played the flute.

    Yeah so play the Flute. I can still Play the Flute and Kick your ass at the same time!!!! lol..Who cares what people think. You Just Keep On Doing You.icon_cool.gif
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    Dec 04, 2008 7:50 PM GMT
    I was a section leader in chorus for 8 years or so, and still enjoy singing today. Don't let anyone make you feel dumb or stupid cause you have an interest they don't. I am a super active guy that loves biking and stuff, but its hard for me to sit still and watch any sport on tv...we're all different, and that's pretty cool.
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    Dec 04, 2008 8:26 PM GMT
    Well, I'm old-fashioned (which is the title of one of my favorite songs), and I'm just plain older than the overwhelming majority of guys on this site, but "classical" (for lack of a better term) symphonic and chamber music is a lot of what I listen to.

    Maybe someday you'll find you also do like some of that music.

    Since you asked us, here are some of my favorites from the world of classical instrumental music, both symphonic and chamber:

    Beethoven's symphonies. The 5th and the 7th may be the two that are easiest to get into.

    Here's the whole 5th (sorry that I can't figure out how to embed these):



    And here's the whole 7th (in better sound than the 5th)


    Mahler symphonies. These are very long, turbulent, emotional pieces, and I really love most of them. The first I heard was the 5th, and it really hooked me on classical music in general. Here's part of a performance of the famous Adagietto from the 5th:


    Brahms symphonies. The Fourth was the first I really got into. Here's part of the first movement:


    You might like Stravinsky's ballet score for The Rite of Spring. Here's the first half of that:



    And you can easily move on to parts three and four if you're interested.

    Schubert symphonies. I especially love the 9th. Here's the first movement:



    And here's some of his chamber music, the first movment of the great C-major quintet for strings:



    Of course, you may hate all that. But you never know.
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    Dec 05, 2008 12:58 AM GMT
    I love opera. I'm that gay. icon_wink.gif

    Youtube does this music no justice, but here are some cool clips anyway:

    Lorraine Hunt Lieberson singing "Prosperity" from Handel's Theodora (OK, the pantomime is a but much...blame the director).

    Franco Corelli at his best singing Puccini.

    Mario del Monaco being hammy in a version of "Nessun dorma", from Puccini's Turnadot.

    Juan Diego Florez singing Donizetti (bad day for the bassoonist though...D'oh!)

    Montserrat Caballe playing to the crowd. The sound quality is crappy even by youtube standards, and the first chord starts shockingly out of tune, but the woman knows how to bring the house down (talk about breath control!)

    The end of Wagner's Parsifal, and the finale of hisDas Rheingold. (This might be opera for jocks). icon_neutral.gif

    The quartet Non ti fidar from Mozart's Don Giovanni.

    BTW, for those who've asked themselves "Why do they sing like that?" Back in the day there was no way to amplify a person's voice in a concert hall, so a vocal technique was developed that would allow an audience to hear the singer in a large space.

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    Dec 05, 2008 1:18 AM GMT
    I'm not a huge opera queen (a term that's applicable to plenty of straight guys as well as gay ones), but I like a lot of opera. Don Giovanni, Tristan, Nozze di Figaro, the Ring, Meistersinger, Otello, Falstaff, Cosi fan Tutte, Ariadne auf Naxos, Elektra, Bluebeard's Castle, Turandot and plenty of others. All pretty great.