48 year old man infects 17 year old with HIV.

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    Dec 18, 2008 8:48 AM GMT
    RyanReBoRn saidI love you too.










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    lol. Sorry Ryan but I had to call you out.

    Let me put it this way.

    Every study done on the spread of HIV concludes the main route of transmission are through people who don't know they're hiv positive having unprotected sexual relations with people who are hiv negative. The negative partner unknowingly converts to positive and they have sex with a negative partner. Neither who person number 1 or 2 is positive.

    People who are aware of their HIV negative status take extra care in how they choose their partners and how they have sex. They're more likely to use protection with a negative partner than a positive person unaware of their positive status.

    Stories like this one in the OP is unique.

    Bottom line, the major problem here are HIV+ people who don't know they're HIV+. Why? Because they don't test. Some have seemingly good reasons to not test but anyone who has sex ought to get tested. I'm one of the few who doesn't believe in getting too many HIV tests if you're having sex.

    I've come to realize the greatest reason, or at least one of the reasons, people don't test is because they're afraid of living lives with HIV. They're afraid of becoming pariahs. They're afraid of being treated differently or wrongly.

    Ryan, Chucky, Flex, Mech... you guys aren't helping.

    Under the veil of rationality you argue in favor of imposing all sorts of guidelines of positive folk aware of their status in order to prevent the spread of the disease but you don't get it. That wouldn't even solve a quater of the problem.



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    Dec 18, 2008 9:16 AM GMT
    anyone who defends hiv probably has it
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    Dec 18, 2008 9:25 AM GMT
    MEATYPETEY saidanyone who defends hiv probably has it


    I encourage people to report meaty for abuse. He constantly harrasses others in the HIV threads as well as the realjock member Onslaught.
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    Dec 18, 2008 9:56 AM GMT
    If youre stupid enough to have unsafe sex with some stranger you met online you get no pity from me. No one deserves HIV but putting yourself at so much risk is not smart or self loving.

    I will never have unsafe sex in an LTR again and I dont have unsafe sex when single. Find your favorite condom and buy tons. What is so hard about putting a condom on if youre single? I feel for anyone who gets HIV from an LTR, but again you chose to trust this other person with your life.

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    Dec 18, 2008 10:39 AM GMT
    At the risk of breaking the mold here, let's hope something positive comes from this - a little more awareness that this kind of crap happens. South Dakota was one of the first states in the nation to criminalize the intentional passing of HIV. While anyone that knows me and my posts will tell you that I am absolutely no fan of South Dakota public policy nor its lack of progressive thinking. However, being one of the first states to criminalize this and prosecute a case of it, brought enormous public awareness that there were persons in our community who were intentionally transmitting the virus. Furthermore, this was not an isolated case, where it could be questioned whether or not they were told. This particular case involved a serial killer in my view, in so much as he did this to one victim after another until he was arrested and jailed for the rest of his life. Unfortunately, the infection cannot be taken back.

    I really think that the gay community as a whole needs a wake up call. It is exactly this attitude that says hey HIV is no big deal, it's a treatable inconvenience and we can all live to be a 100 with it anyway is precisely the reason HIV rates are skyrocketing again. Before we all go and get cozy with our HIV positive brothers we might well remember that HIV is a rapidly mutating virus and has tricked us before. We might very well end up with strains that are resistant or immune to the current crop of anti-retroviral drugs. Then what? Then it's not a treatable inconvenience. Then we're back to the reality that this is horrible, chronic and fatal disease. Hmmmm...maybe we shouldn't burn our rubbers just yet. Wake up guys. I'm not saying we should cultivate a climate of fear, but a cavalier attitude of indifference to the virus can only invite more misery for a community that already has it's share of problems. We need not put HIV back on the list.
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    Dec 18, 2008 10:49 AM GMT
    YngHungSFSD saidAt the risk of breaking the mold here, let's hope something positive comes from this - a little more awareness that this kind of crap happens. South Dakota was one of the first states in the nation to criminalize the intentional passing of HIV. While anyone that knows me and my posts will tell you that I am absolutely no fan of South Dakota public policy nor its lack of progressive thinking. However, being one of the first states to criminalize this and prosecute a case of it, brought enormous public awareness that there were persons in our community who were intentionally transmitting the virus. Furthermore, this was not an isolated case, where it could be questioned whether or not they were told. This particular case involved a serial killer in my view, in so much as he did this to one victim after another until he was arrested and jailed for the rest of his life. Unfortunately, the infection cannot be taken back.

    I really think that the gay community as a whole needs a wake up call. It is exactly this attitude that says hey HIV is no big deal, it's a treatable inconvenience and we can all live to be a 100 with it anyway is precisely the reason HIV rates are skyrocketing again. Before we all go and get cozy with our HIV positive brothers we might well remember that HIV is a rapidly mutating virus and has tricked us before. We might very well end up with strains that are resistant or immune to the current crop of anti-retroviral drugs. Then what? Then it's not a treatable inconvenience. Then we're back to the reality that this is horrible, chronic and fatal disease. Hmmmm...maybe we shouldn't burn our rubbers just yet. Wake up guys. I'm not saying we should cultivate a climate of fear, but a cavalier attitude of indifference to the virus can only invite more misery for a community that already has it's share of problems. We need not put HIV back on the list.

    Thanks, YngHungSFSD. I remember reading the about that case in South Dakota. I remember it was a lot of people. I grew up in the Watertown area and try to keep up on South Dakota news since I left. Sometimes I think South Dakota is miles ahead of Nebraska in terms of progressiveness.
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    Dec 18, 2008 12:40 PM GMT
    I am frankly surprised that this is not illegal everywhere. I know it is in Canada. Knowingly passing on a potentially fatal disease usually is.

    As CitizenSol indicated above, the biggest problem the gay community now has is the popularity of unsafe sex practices and the refusal of some people to get tested. It is interesting to note that virtually everybody on RJ is supposedly HIV-. That is a reflection of what is going on in the gay community. "It is not my problem, and it will never happen to me so I can keep on behaving the way I am" is an attitude that needs to change.

    As Georges Santayana once said, "Those that forget the past are doomed to repeat it". We are starting to exhibit similar behaviour to what existed in the fast-lane gay lifestyle of the 1970s. Unprotected anal sex, drug use, increasing popularity of bathhouses, private orgies. A very strange shift in behaviour. I just wish I knew what the magic bullet was to turn it around.
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    Feb 03, 2011 9:12 AM GMT
    WOW! This is tragic.

    Both the 48 year old and the 16year old are to blame for this. I hope this opens up people's eyes and they pay more attention to their health along with others and inquire certain things along with promoting safe sex.

    A lot of pain and hardships can easily be avoided if common sense, courtesy and initiative are applied.

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    Feb 13, 2011 12:45 AM GMT

    R U sure there is no incrimination for transmitting disease or smth similar??? Because it sounds like a joke?!?!

    Regardless of the Criminal Code regulation he could claim at least 1.000.000 $ to be indemnified based on the civil damage. Not much of a comfort
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    Feb 13, 2011 8:52 PM GMT
    Has Nebraska ever made changes to its legal consent law or is it still 16? It should be 18. Have they ever passed any law making it a serious criminal offense to knowingly infect someone with HIV?
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    Feb 14, 2011 4:41 PM GMT
    The link goes to something else, not the news on your title. Can you please give us the right link to the news article?

    p.s. I just noticed this post is from like 08. What's with people resurrecting threads? From looking elsewhere it appears that the guy was sentenced to 20 years.