CRUISING IN THE LOCKER ROOM

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    Dec 21, 2008 5:46 PM GMT
    TerpmaniacThese fat, old, trolls, liver-spotted and saggy asses just drooling at any man with a heartbeat.

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    Dec 21, 2008 6:32 PM GMT
    Terpmaniac saidThese fat, old, trolls, liver-spotted and saggy asses just drooling at any man with a heartbeat.


    So naturally, we will assume when you reach that age yourself, should you be so fortunate, you will withdraw yourself from public life, so that no other gay men will be offended by your appearance. Perhaps by that time there will be a "Home for Ugly Old Gay Trolls" to spare others your existence.
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    Dec 22, 2008 4:54 PM GMT
    Hmmm, once again it appears some sort of dichotomy exists here:

    A) Hot young guys cruising a gym = OK

    B) Old flabby men cruising = NASTY

    I dunno, I think you can either condone the cruising which occurs at the gym, regardless of the appearance of the man, OR you can frown upon cruising altogether. It seems a bit hypocritical to support one but not the other based on the appearance or age of the cruiser.

    I, for one, take the former approach: Let (gay) boys be boys. There are a few old guys at my gym which so clearly cruise me, and while it leaves me uncomfortable I don't snap and lash out at these men (perhaps I'm too nice, haha). Instead, I try to keep whatever conversation he initiates in the showers civil, and speed things up a bit so I can make a quick exit. If a hot younger guy did the same thing, well, I might just linger around and show a bit more interest. Regardless, because I'm not against modest cruising in the locker room (my gym's really gay to begin with), I ought not be vehemently against old "greasy" guys taking an interest in young guys like myself. Just take it as a compliment, and move on.

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    Dec 22, 2008 5:09 PM GMT
    I'm really glad this doesn't go on at my gym.
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    Dec 22, 2008 5:12 PM GMT
    Am inbetween gyms right now, but Lifestyles, here in Tampa, is a gym where guys don't even shower unless before work. Lived in ATL from 89 to 98 and the best gym there was in the Wildwood Office Park off Windy Hill. Great gym, great classes, and just occasionally a passing glance. Felt good there.
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    Dec 24, 2008 1:13 PM GMT
    I´m jealous. I was only once cruised and it made my week icon_razz.gif (the second time he tried it I made it clear I wasn´t interested and no probs since).

    I´m one of those guys who is so utterly focussed when lifting I like like I´ve gone into a trance, but I always smile and say hi to people on my rests. I´m curious as to what happens (live in a very conservative country where gay men are pretty much are below the radar for social reasons). If anyone in Orlando wants to take to me to their gym as a guest while I´m in the USA then send me a mail. hahahha

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  • Koaa2

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    Dec 24, 2008 1:31 PM GMT
    I used to work out at military gyms, seemed like there was a lot of cruising and some stroking going on at all of them.

    I don't mind the cruising and occasional jerk.

    My biggest concern is the guys who don't wash their hands after using the toilet or urinals, and go back out and start using the the equipment.

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    Dec 24, 2008 1:48 PM GMT
    TOPdawg4atl saidOK I'm starting to get real creeped out... Is it just me or has the locker room become the new de facto bookstore backroom. More and more, each day the cruisy-ness in the locker room is becoming over the top. There are guys I see daily in the locker room who did not set as much as a foot in the weight room or any other part of the gym, but have been at the gym as long as I have and from what I can tell, spent the last 2 hours doing the circuit in the back: you know-- locker>sauna>shower>repeat.

    Guys used to be a little more discreet about their passing glances, and some of the not-so-obvious attention I can easily look over. But now, guys have little-to-no shame in their game. And its not just in the more gay-friendly or gay-borhood gyms, but even in the suburban family environments (actually can be worse there). And dont even get me started about the sauna-- with guys staring at you and strokin themselves without a second thought and following you into shower even if you welcomed their advances or not.icon_rolleyes.gif

    All-in-all, I really just don't like it... and I'm at a small loss at how to deal. I've tried changing gyms when the scene gets more out of control than I can handle, but alas disgusting, old, desperate perverts are apparantly everywhere.

    So I'm wonderin does everyone see this happening? Do you participate or get more creeped out like me? How do you deal with the cruisiness especially the guys who follow and prey upon you? Or is my gag reflex just too hyper-sensitive and I need to go to Prude's Anonymous icon_wink.gif



    wait...ur 6 foot, 230 pounds and you can't handle a few little old men cruising you?

    here's my take. Only a few guys at my gym know I'm into guys...and only them because I've hooked up with them, lol.

    anyway, I don't really get cruised in the locker room much...I mean there's an occasional glance or some guy might check me out and take the shower across from me instead of one of the MANY others...but whatever...nothing overt.

    I have a friend, however, who everyone knows is gay...he's not swishy or anything, but it's pretty well known...now he gets cruised a fair amount...and some of it is awkward. He takes in style and doesn't let it bother him..and he knows which dudes to avoid because they may be a little more aggressive...but all in all he gets cruised WAY more than any of the guys who no one knows about.

    I just wonder if maybe some of the locker room trolls feel more comfortable being aggressive since they might think..."Hey, he's on our team...so maybe he's down for a little gym play."

    I'm not saying you have to go back into the closet at the gym...HEAVEN FORBID...all I'm saying is maybe that's one of the reasons that there's really nothing you can do anything about...oh, except for stop being a baby and use that giantly muscled frame to put a stop to whatever harrassment you might be feeling...
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    Dec 24, 2008 1:54 PM GMT
    Shorter TommyGuns: Stop wearing your rainbow thong in the gym.
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    Dec 24, 2008 1:58 PM GMT
    lol, thanks obscene...now you know how my editor feels. icon_wink.gif
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    Dec 24, 2008 2:26 PM GMT
    tommysguns2000 saidlol, thanks obscene...now you know how my editor feels. icon_wink.gif

    i worked as an editor about 15 years. Destroying other writers' copy is my life.
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    Dec 24, 2008 2:43 PM GMT
    Main reason I joined a 'dry' location in the Bally's chain. "Dry" meaning that there is no pool, sauna, steam room.....I figured, that's a good thing since it would reduce the loitering and the stares in the locker room....no reason to extend your visit in this particular locker room unless you're peeing for 45minutes.
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    Dec 24, 2008 2:45 PM GMT
    Just stop going to the gym if it bothers you.
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    Dec 24, 2008 3:32 PM GMT
    torontoguy2222 saidHmmm, once again it appears some sort of dichotomy exists here:

    A) Hot young guys cruising a gym = OK

    B) Old flabby men cruising = NASTY

    I dunno, I think you can either condone the cruising which occurs at the gym, regardless of the appearance of the man, OR you can frown upon cruising altogether. It seems a bit hypocritical to support one but not the other based on the appearance or age of the cruiser.

    I, for one, take the former approach: Let (gay) boys be boys. There are a few old guys at my gym which so clearly cruise me, and while it leaves me uncomfortable I don't snap and lash out at these men (perhaps I'm too nice, haha). Instead, I try to keep whatever conversation he initiates in the showers civil, and speed things up a bit so I can make a quick exit. If a hot younger guy did the same thing, well, I might just linger around and show a bit more interest. Regardless, because I'm not against modest cruising in the locker room (my gym's really gay to begin with), I ought not be vehemently against old "greasy" guys taking an interest in young guys like myself. Just take it as a compliment, and move on.

    My 2 cents =)
    Tony


    I agree with this and tommyguns opinion. Nobody minds when it's a young stud doing the crusing. It makes me wonder what are these other guys are scared of? I don't think it's cool to let one little stare ruin your whole day. I have seen friendships build because of crusing. I noticed the busiest men at the gym who work long hours are the guys who cruise the most. I have worked at a gym for 3 years. I know what a guy is looking for the mintute he walks in the door. I'm sure the staff knows what's going on but I really don't think we need sex police. Sometimes a guy wants tension release and just want to jerk & jet. If he is discreet about it what's the problem?
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    Dec 24, 2008 4:25 PM GMT
    I don't mind being cruised at the gym by blokes (fat, old, whatever). I'm a big boy I can handle it, though it's not so much fun when it's women.
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    Dec 24, 2008 4:33 PM GMT
    I think it is a bit hypocritical of any straights to tsk tsk about gays having sex in a sauna or steam room. Why are there men's and women's facilities? Because if you let straight men (...and maybe the women, too) anywhere near each other with such an opportunity, they would be all over each other and we would have a whole new class of waifs....bathroom babies.
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    Dec 24, 2008 4:56 PM GMT
    LA Fitness seems to be the bridge to haunt under in FL too. It's Mark Foley's favorite when he's in Ft Lauderdale.
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    Dec 24, 2008 5:15 PM GMT
    I don't notice it much in the Wichita YMCA, but I'm there to work out and I don't pay much attention to whats going in the locker room or anywhere else.
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    Dec 24, 2008 6:16 PM GMT
    topdawg - u have put a lot of effort into being a total hunk. hunks are hunks so that they look good to others as well as themselves. so it is not reasonable to be a hunk deliberately and yet object to being looked over pretty often.
    older gays can be a serious turnoff for erotic feelings or physical feel good feelings because they remind us of what awaits us and that unless u die young (u might be lucky) u may end up looking like them. once u understand why u dont like them around u, u will stop noticing them.
    i agree that masturbation in public is a total no-no. and so is stalking around the gym and locker room. but the guys who do that are possibly under a compulsion so be kind - a polite request first time to leave u alone would not hurt u, and save the brutal "f--k off" for the second time.
    it sounds from you post that u have allowed this thing to get out of all proportions in your mind. calm down. be glad u are they hunk and the others are the creeps.
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    Dec 24, 2008 7:31 PM GMT
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    Okay, I think you even know the answer. You answered your own question when you said should you go to "Prudes Anonymous" and remember those big pec's? You will have to keep them worked every week then at least twice a week as you get older. If not you will have tits like a woman. All that muscle mass turns to nothing but flabby skin as you get older.
    Take it from an old man who "used to be built like you" but my muscles were from good old hard farm work. Digging post holes by hand, cutting down brush and tree's. But through a Motorhome accident off a mountain I got put in an electric wheelchair. This happened on Feb 16 2006. My legs were crushed so I cannot do the lifts or pull ups. I lost the use of my legs and I have an extremely bad right shoulder from a 12 ga. shotgun blast when a kid tried to rob me with a gun. I got the door locked and him outside the store. He came back with a 12 GA 00 buck shotgun and pointed right at my head and shot at close range through the storefront window. I was at the front window talking to my supv on the phone. The guy wanted revenge so he was going to blow my head off though the plate glass window. That was back in 1974. SO now I am an old man in a wheelchair at 57. My right shoulder, collar bone hurts all the time from old age and the old shotgun wound that blew my right arm out of it's socket and got my collar bone and into my neck, nicking the corroted artery. I had to learn how to use my right arm all over again when they repaired the nerves.
    So just remember, if you are lucky, you might be one of those old trolls in a gym staring at the guys like you in admiration.
    You need not to be so vein. You are not "the only" Hunky looking or handsome person on here. However if you did not want to get looked at why did you develope those huge muscles in the first place.
    Bulk up and you know you are going to get stared at. Don't call the old men discusting unless you feel that you will forever young. You see you may be one of those old trolls one day. "Never say Never either!"
    Get over yourself and get used to yourself. When you drive a vette you are going to get stared at too.
  • Koaa2

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    Dec 24, 2008 9:11 PM GMT
    In a perfect, non religious world, my perfect gym would be a place that one could work out in, educate oneself about health, both physical and mental, socialize, and get off in whatever way one would want to, with whoever they would want to. There would be private rooms, glory holes, saunas, steam, pool, jacuzzi, group sex rooms, that would combine both straight and gay people. It would be all non judgmental, absent of any sexual, societal and religious hang ups that so many of us carry. There would be no attitude by any one. Maybe one day I will open this kind of a facility.
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    Dec 25, 2008 1:39 AM GMT
    Trust me fellas I'm a big boy and can take care of myself. Its really not a matter of fear but really the imposition. And by no means am I bouncing around the gym in said "rainbow undies." I think these guys are just casting lines out in the water waiting for a bite, ANY bite. I don't think I am super hot and everyone is after me nor do i look like big-gay-Al-come-and-get-it. As prescribed by many, I usually ignore the guys and they stop and go after the next person they fancy. I guess its more the shear volume and regularity lately which inspired this post.

    What I don't want this to spiral into is a rant about ageism. There are many beautiful men in their 40s, 50, 60s and I have no problem with older men in the least. And definitely in the locker rooms, it isn't just the older men who are doing the cruising. Now is there a slight disproportion of older men who cruise? I'd stand to reason, yes. Older men tend to let their guards down and not place as much restraint on themselves cause they've been there and done that and they are basically like "F--- it"... I look forward to the day when i will be less guarded.

    And I know I joke about some hot guy lusting in the locker room after me. But to be perfectly honest, even if the hottest guy started stroking himself at me in public, I would most likely be extremely turned off. It has nothing to do with age, but personal values and conduct. I very much subscribe to everything having a time and place, and for myself, YOUR personal sexual pleasure has NO business in the middle of MY workout regimen, period. And yes, since you want to use me as the catalyst to your happy ending, I do have issue with that. So I can be offended as easily as you get to be turned on. There are plenty of bath houses for all of that, go find one. And you WONT find me there doing presses in the middle of your freak session either.

    Maybe I SHOULD be flattered, but I'd rather have a nice compliment than a bunch of groaning and heavy breathing and petting in the next stall over. Or maybe Hallmark should do a new line of greeting cards: "I think you're HOT, pass the soap"
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    Dec 25, 2008 9:57 PM GMT
    dreamdrop saidWell you see guys who are staring don't even realize it. What trick I like to do is snap my fingers. Are clap my hands. It usually snaps them out of it. It makes the realize what they are doing.It will freeze aor scare them for a second.


    THAT is an excellent idea. My workout time is my time off from daily life and I focus on exercising and breathing. Its very refreshing to shower after sweating so much.

    But i don't like the blatant stares and shenanigins.

    Don't some of these guys realize what they look like when they stare like an idiot?
  • Sparkycat

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    Dec 25, 2008 10:38 PM GMT
    I've never understood the appeal of having sex in a public toilet. It's just too gross. Guys who do it must have self-esteem issues.

    Core Fitness in Iowa City, Iowa is awesome. Nothing inappropriate happens in the locker room or steam room that I've seen. There's a ban on cell phone use in the locker room. Showers are individual stall showers, and the curtains are partially transparent - not enough to show details but enough to tell if there's more than one person in the shower. It's a good place. Yes, if I see a really hot guy in the locker room I may take a quick glance, but certainly not antisocial staring. Never any eye contact. If you're in Iowa City, it the best gym in town.



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    twentyfourhourslater saidSome local parks also have a similar problem with cruising - there are a couple of parks that i would never take my kids to.


    Volunteer Park in Seattle was really bad when I lived there in the 1990s, not sure how it is today. The separate restroom building in the middle of the park was so bad I wouldn't even go in there.

    So one time I tried using the basement men's room at the museum building, also in the park, which had an outside ground entrance. Inside I found it empty, but the urinals had no partitions, so I decided to use a stall in case some cruiser entered. No doors on the stalls, to discourage sex, but I didn't mind since I was just going to pee.

    No sooner had I stood at the toilet then I realized a guy was standing right behind me, trying to look over my shoulder! I yelled at him to back off, which he did with a laugh. When I left there were now about 5 guys in there all doing everything but what the place was intended for.

    I not only found it disgusting, but I was mad because they were adding to the straight hatred against us by this selfish and illegal behavior.
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    Dec 25, 2008 10:59 PM GMT
    I went into the steamroom once, and i was just chillen. And this guy started talking to me to the side. He was pretty good-looking, but i mided my own business. He was in all his clothes and just chillen...we talked about silly things, lots of small talk. When out of nowhere, he asks how i can possibly be in just a towel, cuz if he was, he would get hard. I was a little taken aback by this statement, but i just told him, "the heat in here doesn't really get me all excited" haha

    He said, "yeah, it is a little hott in here isn't it? Aww...what the hell" He then took off his pants and underwear and the next thing ya know hes sporting a huge boner and says "Geez, see I knew it...."

    And i couldnt help but peak over, but i told him, "Dont worry about it, im sure it happens to alot of guys" not even believing my own words! hahaha

    but then he said, "geez it is really hard" and he started stroking it just a bit asking me, "wanna touch??"

    I looked at him, and despite it being a very nice penis, I said "No thank you" and walked out....lol

    My heart was beating so hard i thought i was gonna die! lol....

    Can anyone beat that story??