hentailover saidI think anyone with HIV or any STI is morally obligated to disclose their status before even safe sex, and without being asked, otherwise the other guy doesn't have informed consent to take the risk, (condoms fail ya know). Sounds like timmm or muchmorethanmuscle might disagree with that, given their narrow focus on barebacking...?
Narrow focus? I'm an advocate for Gay and HIV rights. It has little to do with condomless sex really. It's because of people like you and Art Deco, Scuffy, Sydney, David and others who vilify anyone who is POZ or Undetectable (and can't tell the fucking difference!) That's why we only have a 30% undetectable rate. Australia is 62% and they are new to the protocols.
This site is full of moralizing, stigmatizing, reactionary knee jerkers. Truly stupid people for the most part, and oddly proud of it it seems.
1 - we don't vilify "just anyone who is poz", only the ones that advocate unhealthy practices like you. You have expressed that many times in your posts. There are other RJ posters, also HIV+ (Gamerican comes to mind) who are nothing like you; they advocate protection and the use of condoms. They try to help people not to make their same mistakes and they earned all my respect. Basically I wish there were more like them and less like you.
2 - Don't try to confuse people with your shit. You have a selfish and very clear motivation in everything you say. You're toxic.
Get it into your mind that undetectable people are also HIV+. One is part of the other, even though you hate that fact. Undetectable viral load is still risky. Let alone that someone who is undetectable one day might become detectable the other. And more importantly; people should never trust in the apparent status of their hookups. Believing someone saying "im undetectable" is as stupid as believing someone saying "I'm neg" - you don't know that - sometimes they don't know that or could be liying. Just like this guy here said "treat all your sex partners as if they were poz and take care of yourself".
"Just like this guy here said "treat all your sex partners as if they were poz and take care of yourself"." That's only truth in your post!
I'm toxic and unhealthy?
(I've been Undetectable for 10 years. No semen viral shedding is shown after 3 years. My blood work is normal.)
In your stigma I have to be! Otherwise you have to create other stigmas like:.....STD breeding, and God knows what else is next.
There are now at least five strategies that reasonably constitute ‘safe sex, provided that certain parameters are met. They are:
The use of Condoms during casual encounters between men of unknown or discordant serostatus.
HIV negative men taking effective pre-exposure prophylaxis (PrEP).
Men living with HIV who only have sex without condoms when they have a sustained undetectable viral load (UVL) and in the absence
of sexually transmissible infections (STIs).
Effective use of serosorting between HIV positive men.
Effective negotiated safety agreements.http://www.acon.org.au/sites/default/files/What-is-Safe-Sex-Position-2014.pdfIn the past “unprotected sex” has been understood to reflect sex without a condom. However, with recent advances in biomedical technologies and
new knowledge about the efficacy of treatments in
preventing onward transmission, the established orthodoxy of "safe sex"has changed.
Gamerican, just regurgitates all the 90s rhetoric. Not BAD information, but not current either. He tells people on RJ just to use condoms.....not bad advice considering the intellect level on here (in the basement). Notice he doesn't disagree with me. He knows, and tacitly agrees.
I have to wonder about people like David. They find the most repulsive elements of society. And then affixes it (gift giving, STD breeding, etc) to people he deems "toxic and unhealthy"....who aren't. Truly a sick mind to even find that stuff, stuff I've never heard of. And certainly haven't done.
THIS is what stigma looks, sounds and smells like. In David's brain there is a cesspool of crap, oozing to get out.