Gay Air Force Lt. Joshua Seefried faces sexual assault charges

  • metta

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    Dec 10, 2014 6:08 PM GMT
    Gay Air Force lieutenant faces sexual assault charges

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  • Destinharbor

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    Dec 10, 2014 6:15 PM GMT
    Wow. Unbelievable. Literally. So this gay lieutenant meets Seefried, also a lieutenant, in a hotel room, gets drunk and says he was abused. The inquiry recommends charges not be filed but they do anyway with additional charges added by his commanding officer? Sounds like a witch hunt because of Seefried's advocacy.
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    Dec 10, 2014 6:47 PM GMT
    Thanks for adding some balance to the daily news reports.
  • jeepguySD

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    Dec 11, 2014 2:23 PM GMT
    Members of all branches of the armed forces receive frequent training with regard to what constitutes sexual assault. This training has made it clear for years that anyone who is intoxicated, and who's judgment therefore is impaired, cannot give consent for sex. In other words, "yes" does not always mean "yes," at least not in the eyes of the military justice system.

    So, if one of the two -- after the fact -- claims "I was drunk and he (or she) took advantage of me" then charges of sexual assault are likely to follow. Seefried *should* have known better, but if he was drunk too, then his judgment also was impaired. Alcohol leads to really bad decisions, and it is a big factor in many, if not most, sexual assault cases in the armed forces today.

    All that being said, commanders today DO feel intense political pressure to prosecute all allegations of sexual assault, even if the ensuing investigations do not make a case. So, I tend to believe that there's a kernel of truth in the defense's assertion that the CO's and commanding general's actions to overrule the Article 32 hearing are motivated by political pressure -- even if that pressure is indirect, resulting from the broader political environment.
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    Dec 11, 2014 9:29 PM GMT
    "Seefried was charged in April with wrongful sexual contact and forcible sodomy."

    WTF is 'forcible sodomy'? In the 21st century post-DADT military, why are they still using charges that sound like they came from the Old Testament or Saudi Arabia?