If you ever doubted Fox News makes stuff up....

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    Jan 12, 2015 3:46 PM GMT
    HottJoe saidWell, I've been watching Fox news for the past couple days, just to see what they're saying. My husband can't even be in the same room, because it's so inflammatory. BUT the one commentator being called out on this thread is small potatoes, folks. Every hour on the hour Fox declares war on Islam and say that the goal of Islam is to overthrow the French government and turn France into Caliphate. Then the rest of Europe, Israel, and finally north and south America. They basically say that Islamists are like Nazis who want world domination. That's just the baseline of their news cycle right now.... I have a feeling that attention spans are short though, and they'll be back to attacking their own citizens shortly.


    "They basically say that Islamists are like Nazis who want world domination."

    Yeah, well, how should they (Fox) state that other than to just come right out and say it?
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    Jan 12, 2015 3:48 PM GMT
    @ hotjoe about this....


    What's ironic is that the woman interviewing him (can't remember her name; it's Judge-something) went on to make much more incendiary comments about how we need to arm 1.6 billion Muslims so that they can kill the 200,000 million supposed extremists within their religion. (I'm paraphrasing it. It sounded a lot more bloodthirsty the way she actually said it.)


    "arm 1.6 billion Muslims"

    Well, that's one way I suppose, but I'd prefer not to arm any Muslims.

    I'm sure there's a clip floating around. She came off as a genocidal maniac.

    I happened to have Fox on when she came on the air... I didn't hear the comment you're talking about. I was too busy emailing Fox about having a 50+ year old woman in a black leather low cut dress on as a news show host who's called a judge of anything besides inappropriate wardrobe.

    If you want to hear genocidal maniacs you should listen to more of the immigrant muslims who've come to the US and aren't afraid to speak up about Islam and what needs to be done. They make Glenn Beck sound like a pacifist. And the ones I'm talking about are college educated doctors, psychiatrists, engineers and even some former jihadists and members of the Saudi royal family.
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    Jan 12, 2015 4:11 PM GMT
    OK this the clip I found from the previous day. It's not the same as the one from last night, but it will suffice. This is typical Fox News commentary. There are dozens of similar clips:

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    Jan 12, 2015 4:16 PM GMT
    bobbobbob said@ hotjoe about this....


    What's ironic is that the woman interviewing him (can't remember her name; it's Judge-something) went on to make much more incendiary comments about how we need to arm 1.6 billion Muslims so that they can kill the 200,000 million supposed extremists within their religion. (I'm paraphrasing it. It sounded a lot more bloodthirsty the way she actually said it.)


    "arm 1.6 billion Muslims"

    Well, that's one way I suppose, but I'd prefer not to arm any Muslims.

    I'm sure there's a clip floating around. She came off as a genocidal maniac.

    I happened to have Fox on when she came on the air... I didn't hear the comment you're talking about. I was too busy emailing Fox about having a 50+ year old woman in a black leather low cut dress on as a news show host who's called a judge of anything besides inappropriate wardrobe.

    If you want to hear genocidal maniacs you should listen to more of the immigrant muslims who've come to the US and aren't afraid to speak up about Islam and what needs to be done. They make Glenn Beck sound like a pacifist. And the ones I'm talking about are college educated doctors, psychiatrists, engineers and even some former jihadists and members of the Saudi royal family.


    Where did you read that? xD

    One thing that's very clear is Fox News is a joke of a news source. It's only means is to deliver hate their brain dead viewership.
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    Jan 12, 2015 4:16 PM GMT
    HottJoe saidOK this the clip I found from the previous day. It's not the same as the one from last night, but it will suffice. This is typical Fox News commentary. There are dozens of similar clips:



    I hadn't seen this. Thanks for posting. Great clip!

    Not sure what I think of sending any more arms over there to anyone though. Other than that concern, I think she's right on.
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    Jan 12, 2015 4:17 PM GMT
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    bobbobbob said@ hotjoe about this....


    What's ironic is that the woman interviewing him (can't remember her name; it's Judge-something) went on to make much more incendiary comments about how we need to arm 1.6 billion Muslims so that they can kill the 200,000 million supposed extremists within their religion. (I'm paraphrasing it. It sounded a lot more bloodthirsty the way she actually said it.)


    "arm 1.6 billion Muslims"

    Well, that's one way I suppose, but I'd prefer not to arm any Muslims.

    I'm sure there's a clip floating around. She came off as a genocidal maniac.

    I happened to have Fox on when she came on the air... I didn't hear the comment you're talking about. I was too busy emailing Fox about having a 50+ year old woman in a black leather low cut dress on as a news show host who's called a judge of anything besides inappropriate wardrobe.

    If you want to hear genocidal maniacs you should listen to more of the immigrant muslims who've come to the US and aren't afraid to speak up about Islam and what needs to be done. They make Glenn Beck sound like a pacifist. And the ones I'm talking about are college educated doctors, psychiatrists, engineers and even some former jihadists and members of the Saudi royal family.


    Where did you read that? xD

    One thing that's very clear is Fox News is a joke of a news source. It's only means is to deliver hate their brain dead viewership.


    How so?
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    Jan 12, 2015 4:34 PM GMT
    Callumity said
    bobbobbob said@ hotjoe about this....


    What's ironic is that the woman interviewing him (can't remember her name; it's Judge-something) went on to make much more incendiary comments about how we need to arm 1.6 billion Muslims so that they can kill the 200,000 million supposed extremists within their religion. (I'm paraphrasing it. It sounded a lot more bloodthirsty the way she actually said it.)


    "arm 1.6 billion Muslims"

    Well, that's one way I suppose, but I'd prefer not to arm any Muslims.

    I'm sure there's a clip floating around. She came off as a genocidal maniac.

    I happened to have Fox on when she came on the air... I didn't hear the comment you're talking about. I was too busy emailing Fox about having a 50+ year old woman in a black leather low cut dress on as a news show host who's called a judge of anything besides inappropriate wardrobe.

    If you want to hear genocidal maniacs you should listen to more of the immigrant muslims who've come to the US and aren't afraid to speak up about Islam and what needs to be done. They make Glenn Beck sound like a pacifist. And the ones I'm talking about are college educated doctors, psychiatrists, engineers and even some former jihadists and members of the Saudi royal family.


    Where did you read that? xD

    One thing that's very clear is Fox News is a joke of a news source. It's only means is to deliver hate their brain dead viewership.

    At least with this thread RJers from abroad can see where the poison that floods the political forums actually stems from.
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    Jan 12, 2015 4:36 PM GMT
    HottJoe said
    Callumity said
    bobbobbob said@ hotjoe about this....


    What's ironic is that the woman interviewing him (can't remember her name; it's Judge-something) went on to make much more incendiary comments about how we need to arm 1.6 billion Muslims so that they can kill the 200,000 million supposed extremists within their religion. (I'm paraphrasing it. It sounded a lot more bloodthirsty the way she actually said it.)


    "arm 1.6 billion Muslims"

    Well, that's one way I suppose, but I'd prefer not to arm any Muslims.

    I'm sure there's a clip floating around. She came off as a genocidal maniac.

    I happened to have Fox on when she came on the air... I didn't hear the comment you're talking about. I was too busy emailing Fox about having a 50+ year old woman in a black leather low cut dress on as a news show host who's called a judge of anything besides inappropriate wardrobe.

    If you want to hear genocidal maniacs you should listen to more of the immigrant muslims who've come to the US and aren't afraid to speak up about Islam and what needs to be done. They make Glenn Beck sound like a pacifist. And the ones I'm talking about are college educated doctors, psychiatrists, engineers and even some former jihadists and members of the Saudi royal family.


    Where did you read that? xD

    One thing that's very clear is Fox News is a joke of a news source. It's only means is to deliver hate their brain dead viewership.

    At least with this thread RJers from abroad can see where the poison that floods the political forums actually stems from.


    You?
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    Jan 12, 2015 5:10 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree said
    Callumity said

    One thing that's very clear is Fox News is a joke of a news source. It's only means is to deliver hate their brain dead viewership.


    How so?


    They still won't admit they have a bias. If they're not even honest about what they are, it says a lot about what they do.
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    Jan 12, 2015 5:12 PM GMT
    Piccadilly said
    freedomisntfree said
    Callumity said
    bobbobbob said@ hotjoe about this....

    One thing that's very clear is Fox News is a joke of a news source. It's only means is to deliver hate their brain dead viewership.


    How so?


    They still won't admit they have a bias. If they're not even honest about what they are, it says a lot about what they do.

    Not true. They admit they are biased against Islam. They basically say there is no room on the planet for Islam and non Islamic people... Which oddly coincides with what the terrorists claim.
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    Jan 12, 2015 5:22 PM GMT
    Piccadilly said
    freedomisntfree said
    Callumity said

    One thing that's very clear is Fox News is a joke of a news source. It's only means is to deliver hate their brain dead viewership.


    How so?


    They still won't admit they have a bias. If they're not even honest about what they are, it says a lot about what they do.


    You talkin' about Fox or MSNBC?
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    Jan 12, 2015 5:23 PM GMT
    HottJoe said
    Piccadilly said
    freedomisntfree said
    Callumity said
    bobbobbob said@ hotjoe about this....

    One thing that's very clear is Fox News is a joke of a news source. It's only means is to deliver hate their brain dead viewership.


    How so?


    They still won't admit they have a bias. If they're not even honest about what they are, it says a lot about what they do.

    Not true. They admit they are biased against Islam. They basically say there is no room on the planet for Islam and non Islamic people... Which oddly coincides with what the terrorists claim.


    Yep they do. We have a problem then.
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    Jan 12, 2015 5:35 PM GMT
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    Rowing_Ant saidSo, OK. According to Fox News, Birmingham in the UK - where I have friends and have visited - is entirely Muslim and non-Muslims can't go there; that Sharia law is enforced.

    Complete and utter rubbish of the highest order.

    But yet, no doubt some idiots will hoover it up. I don't think the "reporter" has ever left the US

    ARGH.

    (Oh and yes, obviously I have a left-wing, pro Obama bias because Fox News is the fount of all wisdom icon_rolleyes.gif ).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwq8Bwr9wUg&feature=youtu.be


    Dewd, did you even take a few seconds to look at your own link to the youtube clip? Fox was interviewing "Terrorism 'expert' Steven Emerson".

    He isn't and never was a Fox News employee or contributor that I'm aware of.

    I fully understand that you (and many others here) are blinded by your Fox News hate, but for the sake of your credibility, you might want to check things out for a few seconds more.


    "Trust, but verify." President Ronald Reagan. Thanks for setting the record straight - and flushing out a few tardos in the process.
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    Jan 12, 2015 5:35 PM GMT
    mx5guynj said1. He's a Democrat.
    2. He issued an apology.
    3. He was never a Foxnews employee, simply someone they were interviewing.
    4. Emerson has been referred to by the liberal New York Times as "an expert on intelligence", and by the liberal New York Post as "the nation's foremost journalistic expert on terrorism".


    Thanks for telling it like it is!
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    Rowing_Ant saidSo, OK. According to Fox News, Birmingham in the UK - where I have friends and have visited - is entirely Muslim and non-Muslims can't go there; that Sharia law is enforced.

    Complete and utter rubbish of the highest order.

    But yet, no doubt some idiots will hoover it up. I don't think the "reporter" has ever left the US

    ARGH.

    (Oh and yes, obviously I have a left-wing, pro Obama bias because Fox News is the fount of all wisdom icon_rolleyes.gif ).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwq8Bwr9wUg&feature=youtu.be

    Fox News hates Obama. He's enemy number 1 to them.

    Last night, Fox News star, Sean Hannity, said of Obama, "He's not my president."


    He's not mine either. Cf. all those pompous and silly "Not In My Name" bumper stickers in Bush's day.
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    Jan 12, 2015 5:38 PM GMT
    Piccadilly said
    freedomisntfree said
    Callumity said

    One thing that's very clear is Fox News is a joke of a news source. It's only means is to deliver hate their brain dead viewership.


    How so?


    They still won't admit they have a bias. If they're not even honest about what they are, it says a lot about what they do.

    Many people confuse the hard news programs with the commentary programs. The commentary programs are known to reflect the opinions of the hosts. Some such as O'Reilly often have liberals on the same segment with conservatives. Juan Williams, who appears often, is a liberal and also African-American. I have never seen a valid bias charge against the hard news programs or segments.
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    Jan 12, 2015 5:38 PM GMT
    CNN, Fox News, and MSNBC are trash heaps. None report critically or intelligently on the news. If any of these are your main news sources, you should be embarrassed. You're being played, alas Americans love their propaganda.
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    Jan 12, 2015 5:40 PM GMT
    sothis999 saidThat most news is skewed or outright lies is one of the first things anyone should assume. I'm usually not content with any story until I read it from multiple primary sources.


    Quite so. However, errors are often the result of rushing things into print without first taking time to check for accuracy. I've seen many errors that could not be explained by bias, but rather, by ignorance on the part of journalists who simply did not understand the subject.

    The purpose of news is not to inform the public. Rather, it is to maximize profits for news organizations. Profits are maximized by maximizing audience size so that more can be charged for advertising. That is most effectively done by entertaining the audience and covering stories that are lurid and attention-grabbing. There is also a tendency to avoid items that could be too controversial since covering them could irritate the audience thereby causing the audience to switch to other news sources; people do not like to view anything opposed to their already-held opinions.

    Generally I do not view the news as reliably accurate, but rather, as something that may or may not be true. Before accepting a news items as true, I want conformation from multiple sources.
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    Jan 12, 2015 5:41 PM GMT
    Rowing_Ant said
    mx5guynj said1. He's a Democrat.
    2. He issued an apology.
    3. He was never a Foxnews employee, simply someone they were interviewing.
    4. Emerson has been referred to by the liberal New York Times as "an expert on intelligence", and by the liberal New York Post as "the nation's foremost journalistic expert on terrorism".



    He is still reporting missinformation. It doesn't matter who says the interviewer was and is supported by, a reputable news outlet would fact check; the response of the presenter in the studio was just hideous - she could have challenged him; questioned him in a vigorous manner as a journalist would do rather than just look appauled.

    Thank G*d for the BBC.


    There's a spin for everything, including spinning in place. Let's see some examples of Obama, Holder, or any of their comrades being "vigorously questioned" by some of today's MSM journalists. That's not going to happen.
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    Jan 12, 2015 5:42 PM GMT
    bobbobbob saidThis thread is just another great example of an pseudo intellectual migrant farm worker proving he's good at picking cherries in order to promote his own personal political perspectives.

    For future reference, the first rule in "reporting" news on television or in forums is to confirm your sources and double check the information. Failure to do so generally knocks your credibility in the turd pile like you were trying to do to Fox News.

    For the record I'm not a fan of Fox. However, the fact that 2 US news channels run more infomercials or prison reality shows than news and another one runs cheap reruns of solved murders than news while Fox provides more daily news shows and beats all the others on breaking news (like the 5:00pm report on the new ISIS appeal for jihadists in Europe and North America to double up on killing people while other news channels were doing reruns and non news programming) it's not hard to see why Fox has more viewers than all the others put together.

    And also for the record, if ever decide to check the track record for MSNBC or Obama for factual information you'll get your feelings hurt.


    Very well stated!
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    Jan 12, 2015 5:43 PM GMT
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    Kovyn saidAnd yet they still have more viewers than CNN and MSNBC put together, on a bad day. Cool bro.


    I think that's what drives me nuts the most, they actually have a large audience!! That's why half the country believes that Obama is from Kenya and we have all these nutty politicians in office now.

    I wish people would really do their homework on things and just don't listen to pundits on TV. Especially ones saying stuff that is completely coming out of their ass! icon_rolleyes.gif


    This is hilarious! You said, "I wish people would really do their homework on things and just don't listen to pundits on TV".... right after you said......

    "That's why half the country believes that Obama is from Kenya and we have all these nutty politicians in office now."

    You can't find facts, stats or even news reports off http://allthetotalbullshitintheworld.com to back up those words.

    You seem to need to be wearing a T-shirt that says, "take my advice because I've never used it."

    Too hilarious.

    And then to make it funnier.. you ended with...
    "Especially ones saying stuff that is completely coming out of their ass!"

    Thanks much! I needed a good laugh.


    You're firing on all cylinders, bob!icon_smile.gif
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    Jan 12, 2015 5:44 PM GMT
    FRE0 said

    Generally I do not view the news as reliably accurate, but rather, as something that may or may not be true. Before accepting a news items as true, I want conformation from multiple sources.


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    Jan 12, 2015 5:51 PM GMT
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    bobbobbob saidThis thread is just another great example of an pseudo intellectual migrant farm worker proving he's good at picking cherries in order to promote his own personal political perspectives.

    For future reference, the first rule in "reporting" news on television or in forums is to confirm your sources and double check the information. Failure to do so generally knocks your credibility in the turd pile like you were trying to do to Fox News.

    For the record I'm not a fan of Fox. However, the fact that 2 US news channels run more infomercials or prison reality shows than news and another one runs cheap reruns of solved murders than news while Fox provides more daily news shows and beats all the others on breaking news (like the 5:00pm report on the new ISIS appeal for jihadists in Europe and North America to double up on killing people while other news channels were doing reruns and non news programming) it's not hard to see why Fox has more viewers than all the others put together.

    And also for the record, if ever decide to check the track record for MSNBC or Obama for factual information you'll get your feelings hurt.


    And for the record, I seldom 'watch' Fox News. What very little time I spend watching TV, it's generally Velocity and one of the Mecum auctions while fixing or eating lunch. That's about it when it comes to TV. I do listen to Fox occasionally when in the car, but instead of much time on Fox, I listen mostly to David Webb (one of the Tea Party founders) on XM ch 125

    http://davidwebbshow.com/about/

    on

    http://www.siriusxm.com/siriusxmpatriot


    And for the record, I'm not the FNC addict some might suppose/project/dream of. I watch and listen to PBS and NPR to get my tax dollars' worth, NBC and CNN for an overall news wrap-up, FNC for O'Reilly, Greta and Kelly's commentary, and the local stations for local news. I read the local paper and the WSJournal, and occasionally the NYT when visiting friends who subscribe, just to get an idea of what's happening in Never-Never Land. Speaking of which, I watch MSNBC every now and then for the same reasons, or to satisfy my curiosity about how they report news adverse to their agenda, like on election night last November.
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    Jan 12, 2015 5:51 PM GMT
    Last comment on the matter, but it appears to me that a good chunk of Americans go to the news for confirmation bias of their political ideology rather than actually getting facts, and that spells disaster.
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    Jan 12, 2015 5:52 PM GMT
    HottJoe saidFox News has declared a war on Islam. They basically say moderate Muslims support extremists, because they take the Quran literally, and that the religion either needs to be reformed, or eradicated.


    Fortunately, most of us Christians do not take most of the Old Testament literally. If we did, we'd behave as badly as the Muslim extremists. As I see it, much of the OT is simply the history of the ancient Hebrews and, as erudite people know, when people write their own history, they distort it to rationalize the ghastly things they have done. Other parts of the OT are a reflection of ancient Hebrew culture, much of which I'm sure God would not approve. The parts which encourage kindness and social justice are what should concern us. The NT emphasizes kindness and social justice.

    Muslims accept much of the OT, but many accept parts of the OT which can be used to rationalize barbaric behavior. Therein lies the problem.

    Doing searches on both the Koran and the Hadith reveals that many passages rationalize ghastly behavior (just as some parts of the OT do) although many passages emphasize fairness and justice. Moderate Muslims de-emphasize those parts which rationalize ghastly behavior, but the radical fundamentalists single out parts of the Koran and Hadith which support barbaric behavior.