Whats with gays denying the existence of bisexuals?

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    Jan 14, 2015 10:59 PM GMT
    Hjalmar saidCan´t you read? I said imo. Are you drunk?


    Here, I'll help you:

    "Because it reminds ME of the time, when it was so cool to date a pretty girl and all the other guys were so jealous of it. That is what I THINK being a bi is all about, acting in general. Of course I BELIEVE sexually there are men, who like to eat the whole cake so to speak, but gays don´t care about that anymore. I THINK it´s ugly and pitiful! That's why I THINK gays dislike bis."

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    Jan 14, 2015 11:06 PM GMT
    Hjalmar saidThis is just my point of view of course...

    Because it reminds of the time, when it was so cool to date a pretty girl and all the other guys were so jealous of it. That is what being a bi is all about, acting in general. Of course sexually there are men, who like to eat the whole cake so to speak, but gays don´t care about that anymore. It´s ugly and pitiful! That's why gays dislike bis.


    But their purported existence is at least politically useful. Or should LGBT become LG? (Please see thread asking if T should be dropped as well.)
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    Jan 14, 2015 11:08 PM GMT
    Thank you for you reply, about which I still do not understand what it is all about considering my first comment.
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    Jan 14, 2015 11:23 PM GMT
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    Then there is the fear of the idea of a bisexual man choosing a woman over them. This can be very devastating to many gay men because of the lack of sexual partners and the commonheld idea that love is hard to find in the gay community. A bisexual man choosing a woman can be seen as him 'rejecting' his gay side and therefore the gay men who may want to be with him. In a way this is interesting because many gay men will avoid a bisexual man with a wife or girlfriend but have no apprehension about getting with a man with a husband or boyfriend. This is because a large portion of gay men do not respect gay relationships because they have been taught not to respect gay men and therefore they do not respect themselves.


    I really, really don't understand this at all. For me, the idea of a guy leaving me for a guy or a guy leaving me for a girl makes no difference what so ever.


    Well to me if a guy leaves me for another guy I mean that sucks but eh I can get over it. Leaving me for a woman? So basically he's leaving me to be straight have all the things I cannot give him. It's like a rejection of everything I am.


    Yeah but the guy leaving you for another guy left you because you couldn't provide him everything he wanted either.
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    Jan 14, 2015 11:51 PM GMT
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    Then there is the fear of the idea of a bisexual man choosing a woman over them. This can be very devastating to many gay men because of the lack of sexual partners and the commonheld idea that love is hard to find in the gay community. A bisexual man choosing a woman can be seen as him 'rejecting' his gay side and therefore the gay men who may want to be with him. In a way this is interesting because many gay men will avoid a bisexual man with a wife or girlfriend but have no apprehension about getting with a man with a husband or boyfriend. This is because a large portion of gay men do not respect gay relationships because they have been taught not to respect gay men and therefore they do not respect themselves.


    I really, really don't understand this at all. For me, the idea of a guy leaving me for a guy or a guy leaving me for a girl makes no difference what so ever.


    Well to me if a guy leaves me for another guy I mean that sucks but eh I can get over it. Leaving me for a woman? So basically he's leaving me to be straight have all the things I cannot give him. It's like a rejection of everything I am.


    Yeah but the guy leaving you for another guy left you because you couldn't provide him everything he wanted either.


    It's different though. It's not like he's copping out and taking the easy way by being with a woman
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    Jan 14, 2015 11:53 PM GMT
    Hjalmar saidThank you for you reply, about which I still do not understand what it is all about considering my first comment.


    Your confusion might be because to my reading at least you have taken two inconsistent positions, which you may not fully appreciate. To wit:

    "bi is all about acting"

    "[o]f course sexually there are men who like to eat the whole cake, so to speak ...."
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    Jan 15, 2015 12:17 AM GMT
    Yes, there is an quite a bit of denial within the gay population about the existence of bisexuals. It's really quite understandable when you consider how many gay men call themselves bisexual when they are in that stage of transition from being the heterosexual they were expected to be to accepting the gay man that they were destined to become. Chances are if you meet a man under 35 who tells you he's bisexual he's either in that transitional period or a savvy hustler.

    It gets even harder to believe in bisexuals when you chat online with men who claim to be. Most of them are grossly overweight underemployed basement dwellers with asthma who have a working definition of bisexuality as "I'm sexually attracted to any live or dead mammal that comments on my fake profile photo."

    In my long life younger years I met five men for whom I have no doubts they were bisexual. Also from recognizing personality traits all five of them shared I have pretty keen "bidar." In the past 15 years I've met several younger bisexual men just by noticing the bisexual personality traits. All of them but one that I've met have been well about average intelligence, all rather quiet but not shy, more into intellectual discussions than banter. I'm sure there are true bisexual men who are unattractive but when I go out to meet men my eyes generally go to the ones I find attractive.

    A man I will certify as bisexual is one I met 21 years ago when he was 26 and here for a six month internship from France, the nation of my my own birth. We became friends immediately in spite of the age difference. Sex of any sort was not discussed for at least 2 months, after he moved into the home I shared with my lover. He knew I was was gay when we met. He was very handsome and charming with no shortage of women chasing him. He was the one who initiated the conversation with us about American sexual mores and how they made it difficult for him as a bisexual. It was not long after that when he began coming to our bed, sometimes just to sleep between us, sometimes for sex, always very relaxed and uninhibited. After three years in France he moved back here and the sexual relations began again. My first partner died and this bisexual man is now 47, still very handsome and fit, still my favorite and most frequent guest and sex partner. He has no shortage of women in his life but does not feel inclined to marry.


    Dr. Jim Hicks has taken the lead in redefining how people conceive of sexuality. Many younger medical professionals along with many in psychiatry and psychology have joined his effort.

    If you know the model zero to six model of sexual preferences developed by Kinsey in the 1950s you can agree it's very simplistic if not too simplistic.

    Dr. Hicks has developed a test to gauge each person's overall sexual potential but not on a two dimensional Kinseyesque chart but a hexagon to accommodate six factors that form sexual identity.

    Take the test and report back on your results.

    https://flexuality.wordpress.com/2011/01/23/the-new-flexuality-test/

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    Jan 15, 2015 1:22 AM GMT
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    Hjalmar saidThank you for you reply, about which I still do not understand what it is all about considering my first comment.


    Your confusion might be because to my reading at least you have taken two inconsistent positions, which you may not fully appreciate. To wit:

    "bi is all about acting"

    "[o]f course sexually there are men who like to eat the whole cake, so to speak ...."




    Oh...of course they are inconsistent positions, that´s what bis are all about! What are you guys here.......an idiots !?!?

    P.S. Have a good night .....IMO!
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    Jan 15, 2015 1:32 AM GMT
    A man is truly bisexual only when he's fucking a pussy and has another man's cock in his mouth or ass at the same time. Any other time he's just a sexual being.
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    Jan 15, 2015 2:34 AM GMT
    I know several bi guys and get along with them particularly well. I think those gay guys who deny that bi guys exist fall into two camps.

    1. Gay guys, who before coming out, pretended to be into women, or thought of themselves as bi and then later realized they were lying to themselves. Therefore, they are likely to believe that many "bi" guys are in the denial or discovery phase of their gayness and will at some point end up fully gay like everyone else.

    2. Guys who believe you should "pick-a-side" already. These guys tend to be particularly irritated/frustrated by those bi guys who seem to switch teams when convenient. They want a guy who is happy with what they have in front of them and can commit. Funny thing is that guys who can't commit come in bi, gay and straight. It depends on the person.

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    Jan 15, 2015 3:11 AM GMT
    Inque said
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    Then there is the fear of the idea of a bisexual man choosing a woman over them. This can be very devastating to many gay men because of the lack of sexual partners and the commonheld idea that love is hard to find in the gay community. A bisexual man choosing a woman can be seen as him 'rejecting' his gay side and therefore the gay men who may want to be with him. In a way this is interesting because many gay men will avoid a bisexual man with a wife or girlfriend but have no apprehension about getting with a man with a husband or boyfriend. This is because a large portion of gay men do not respect gay relationships because they have been taught not to respect gay men and therefore they do not respect themselves.


    I really, really don't understand this at all. For me, the idea of a guy leaving me for a guy or a guy leaving me for a girl makes no difference what so ever.


    Well to me if a guy leaves me for another guy I mean that sucks but eh I can get over it. Leaving me for a woman? So basically he's leaving me to be straight have all the things I cannot give him. It's like a rejection of everything I am.


    Yeah but the guy leaving you for another guy left you because you couldn't provide him everything he wanted either.


    It's different though. It's not like he's copping out and taking the easy way by being with a woman


    men and women have relationship problems just as men and men do. I personally see no difference.
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    Jan 15, 2015 3:17 AM GMT
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    Then there is the fear of the idea of a bisexual man choosing a woman over them. This can be very devastating to many gay men because of the lack of sexual partners and the commonheld idea that love is hard to find in the gay community. A bisexual man choosing a woman can be seen as him 'rejecting' his gay side and therefore the gay men who may want to be with him. In a way this is interesting because many gay men will avoid a bisexual man with a wife or girlfriend but have no apprehension about getting with a man with a husband or boyfriend. This is because a large portion of gay men do not respect gay relationships because they have been taught not to respect gay men and therefore they do not respect themselves.


    I really, really don't understand this at all. For me, the idea of a guy leaving me for a guy or a guy leaving me for a girl makes no difference what so ever.


    It makes perfect sense to me. I can compete with any guy but if a guy wants tits and pussy I don't stand a chance.
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    Jan 15, 2015 3:20 AM GMT
    David3K saidMany think bisexuality is not real but a form of denial that will end with the guy accepting he's gay, but how do you explain men that are sexually and romantically attracted to women and have experienced the same with a guy before? How can sexuality be only black or white?


    I think it has to do with personal observation. Most bi guys I have met go on to be totally and 100% gay. I've seen it time and time again. Of course I know bisexuals exist, but when I hear a guy say he's bi I know there's a very good chance he's full of shit. They make truly bisexual guys look bad.
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    Jan 15, 2015 3:23 AM GMT
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    Take the test and report back on your results.

    https://flexuality.wordpress.com/2011/01/23/the-new-flexuality-test/


    full on gay here.
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    Jan 15, 2015 6:28 AM GMT
    Inque said
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    Then there is the fear of the idea of a bisexual man choosing a woman over them. This can be very devastating to many gay men because of the lack of sexual partners and the commonheld idea that love is hard to find in the gay community. A bisexual man choosing a woman can be seen as him 'rejecting' his gay side and therefore the gay men who may want to be with him. In a way this is interesting because many gay men will avoid a bisexual man with a wife or girlfriend but have no apprehension about getting with a man with a husband or boyfriend. This is because a large portion of gay men do not respect gay relationships because they have been taught not to respect gay men and therefore they do not respect themselves.


    I really, really don't understand this at all. For me, the idea of a guy leaving me for a guy or a guy leaving me for a girl makes no difference what so ever.


    Well to me if a guy leaves me for another guy I mean that sucks but eh I can get over it. Leaving me for a woman? So basically he's leaving me to be straight have all the things I cannot give him. It's like a rejection of everything I am.


    I use to feel this way until my bi ex left me to lead a straight life. I felt betrayed , he had lied about being comfortable in a gay relationship for years. I didn't feel rejected for everything I am. He didn't reject me. He rejected his own independence.
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    Jan 15, 2015 9:29 AM GMT
    Radd saidI can compete with any guy but if a guy wants tits and pussy I don't stand a chance.


    no you can't.
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    Jan 15, 2015 3:54 PM GMT
    Bisexual? What's that?
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    Jan 15, 2015 4:26 PM GMT
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    Then there is the fear of the idea of a bisexual man choosing a woman over them. This can be very devastating to many gay men because of the lack of sexual partners and the commonheld idea that love is hard to find in the gay community. A bisexual man choosing a woman can be seen as him 'rejecting' his gay side and therefore the gay men who may want to be with him. In a way this is interesting because many gay men will avoid a bisexual man with a wife or girlfriend but have no apprehension about getting with a man with a husband or boyfriend. This is because a large portion of gay men do not respect gay relationships because they have been taught not to respect gay men and therefore they do not respect themselves.


    I really, really don't understand this at all. For me, the idea of a guy leaving me for a guy or a guy leaving me for a girl makes no difference what so ever.


    It makes perfect sense to me. I can compete with any guy but if a guy wants tits and pussy I don't stand a chance.


    but if a guy wants specific features that you don't particularly possess, but other men do, then you don't stand a chance either.
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    Jan 15, 2015 5:12 PM GMT
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    Then there is the fear of the idea of a bisexual man choosing a woman over them. This can be very devastating to many gay men because of the lack of sexual partners and the commonheld idea that love is hard to find in the gay community. A bisexual man choosing a woman can be seen as him 'rejecting' his gay side and therefore the gay men who may want to be with him. In a way this is interesting because many gay men will avoid a bisexual man with a wife or girlfriend but have no apprehension about getting with a man with a husband or boyfriend. This is because a large portion of gay men do not respect gay relationships because they have been taught not to respect gay men and therefore they do not respect themselves.


    I really, really don't understand this at all. For me, the idea of a guy leaving me for a guy or a guy leaving me for a girl makes no difference what so ever.


    It makes perfect sense to me. I can compete with any guy but if a guy wants tits and pussy I don't stand a chance.


    but if a guy wants specific features that you don't particularly possess, but other men do, then you don't stand a chance either.


    But even still it's easier to rationalize being left for someone of the same gender than being left for a completely different lifestyle.
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    Jan 15, 2015 5:22 PM GMT
    Cus gay dudes share straight peoples' idea that if you're into dudes you're not manly enough to like chicks
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    Jan 15, 2015 6:39 PM GMT
    David3K saidMany think bisexuality is not real but a form of denial that will end with the guy accepting he's gay, but how do you explain men that are sexually and romantically attracted to women and have experienced the same with a guy before? How can sexuality be only black or white?


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    Jan 15, 2015 7:46 PM GMT
    The "bi now, gay later plan" is pretty common. Been there.
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    Jan 15, 2015 7:47 PM GMT
    Koastal saidThe "bi now, gay later plan" is pretty common. Been there.


    Forreal though.
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    Jan 15, 2015 8:41 PM GMT
    OP,

    if you figure that out, please let me know right-away; because, I've wondered too.

    But more than that, maybe you can figure out:
    Why do gays have such seething-hatred for us? (Don't even bother disagreeing; it's that obvious!)

    Is it nothing more than jealousy?

    Is it the lunacy that makes a gay think he's been "dumped"; just because, all of a sudden there is some chick in-the-picture?

    I haven't a clue what Ppl see in resorting to hatred!
    ...It only harms the hater.
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    Jan 15, 2015 8:44 PM GMT
    I wouldn't say gays deny their existence, other wise I or we wouldn't be giving them the light of day.