GAYS!!! The polar opposites.

  • Uberkoch

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    Jan 24, 2015 3:37 PM GMT
    Why do people separate gays from other demographics? I'm sure you've all read it somewhere browsing the forums. "Is it a gay thing?" "Do straight people do it?" Why do we separate people into groups? Is it just so its easier to stereotype? So we can define others according to personal dictionaries which is only backed up by irrifutable perceived perception? Are we all that different from one another? Am I the only one that looks at everybody as human? We all talk about how gays aren't different so they should be able to have the same rights as straight people. So why do people continue to speak in ways that put barriers up as if they were so different from the next person?
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    Jan 24, 2015 4:13 PM GMT
    Uberkoch said
    So why do people continue to speak in ways that put barriers up as if they were so different from the next person?

    Because people ARE different. I'm different from you, and you from me.

    But we SHOULD be equal under the law (don't try to tell that to US Supreme Court Associate Justice Antonin Scalia). A person with a severe mental disability is as equal as me under the law as I am. And differences should not result in barriers.

    Rather, I welcome differences. I don't want every one to be my clone. What a bore that would be!

    I learn from differences. And I've gotten some of my best ideas & insights from people everyone else has dismissed as dullards, not worth their time.

    But you know what I've found? Some of the greatest wisdom I've acquired has come from the most unexpected sources. People with Down Syndrome, others with low IQs. I never erect barriers when it comes to my learning new things.

    But you & I are still different. That's good! I like difference. I hope to learn from your difference, and maybe you might want to learn from mine. Rather than a barrier, I look upon difference as a door.
  • Noeton

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    Jan 24, 2015 4:31 PM GMT
    A really great and thoughtful post! Probably the discrimination part has a lot to do with cultural tradition, not having gay friends and the illusion of power that comes from bullying the powerless. Definitely I think you're right that everyone should be seen as human, but, from my experience, for a straight person to be a real friend to me, he has to recognize and respect both that I'm human like everybody else and different, because I'm gay.
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    Jan 24, 2015 4:38 PM GMT
    In coming to terms with your own sexuality, as you seek justification for yourself, that seems a pretty natural or, at least, likely frequent if not somewhat defensive line of questioning.

    It does not seem unhealthy as long as you don't become neurotic about it so at the same time keep in mind that


    If you want to take it a step further, you might look into concepts of why we perceive at all, never mind perceive as we do, differentiating and grouping.

    For instance as Thich Nhat Hanh explained of the concept pratītyasamutpāda...


    This is, because that is.
    This is not, because that is not.
    This ceases to be, because that ceases to be.
  • AMoonHawk

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    Jan 24, 2015 5:18 PM GMT
    Same question can be posed for male or female. Why do men act this way? Why do women act that way? Because there are some differences. The same between gay and straight. We are carbon based beings with a curiosity to understand why things are different and not all the same. To do that we separate those differences, such as: Why do straight men like women and are more cautious and aggressive with other men, while straight boys like other boy and dislike girls?
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    Jan 24, 2015 6:44 PM GMT
    Honestly, for some people that's part of their identity. It's a label they wear proudly. I do this from time to time.

    Sometimes, you need that labeled diversity in society.

    if we all acted the same, thought the same, and were called the same thing; we'd be kinda boring :/
  • bro4bro

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    Jan 24, 2015 6:49 PM GMT
    Everybody wants to be special.

    But nobody wants to be different.

    It's one of those dichotomies.
  • HottJoe

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    Jan 24, 2015 6:59 PM GMT
    We're not just ants living in some commie ant farm. We're butterflies, bitch!icon_mad.gif