The 666 Beast of Revelation

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    Feb 20, 2015 4:45 AM GMT
    Point 1A which puts Teitan on the board:
    Teitan – Satan’s name among the Devil-Worshippers of Kurdistan is Sheitan, which is from the Chaldean Teitan. The Chaldean language often transforms the “sh” or “s” into “t”. (E.g. Hebrew shekel and Chaldean tekel; Hebrew seraphim and Chaldean teraphim, the Babylonian counterfeit of the heavenly Cherubim or Seraphim.)

    Point 1B which shows Teitan may be Titus in another language
    The beast is the man who destroyed the Temple of Jerusalem. Biblehub Clark’s Commentary: 12. The number of the wild beast, 666, the number of a man, Teitan, Titan or Titus: T, 300. E, 5. I, 10. T, 300. A, 1. N. 50, making in the whole 666. [But some very respectable MSS. have 616 for the number; if the N be taken away from Teitan, then the letters in Teita make exactly the sum 616].

    General Titus, later Emperor Titus was largely responsible for destroying the Temple of Jerusalem.

    Please see Irenaeus, Against Heresies, Book 5, Chapter 30, Section 3 Irenaeus starts with Teitan which can be a correct interpretation. One can understand that in the Book of Revelation only a beast Teitan-Titus would destroy The Temple of the God of Israel. The souls waiting for justice are the souls who died in the War for Jewish Independence and Self-Determination for the people of the God of Israel, also known as The Jewish Revolt and the First Jewish Roman War.

    NET Bible / Rev. 13: 3: One of the beast’s heads appeared to have been killed, but the lethal wound had been healed. And the whole world followed the beast in amazement. // When General Vespasian was fighting at Jotapata, he was wounded. Roman soldiers simply passed along the words Vespasian was wounded without details. Word got to his son Titus who rushed to his father. WELL, the wound that was made on Vespasian’s foot was not mortal. It may have appeared to have been but it wasn’t.

    NET Bible / Rev. 13: 5: The beast was given a mouth speaking proud words and blasphemies, and he was permitted to exercise ruling authority for forty-two months. // 84 months is 7 years, the length of the Jewish-Roman War 66 to 73. There were two Roman generals: Vespasian and Titus. Verse 6 says the beast (Vespasian) was allowed to make war on the saints and to conquer them. Jesus was a Jewish purist. Rebels who fought against Rome were the saints (they took up their cross and followed Jesus).

    NET Bible / Rev. 13: 11-12 Then I saw another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb and he spoke as a dragon. 12He exercises all the authority of the first beast in his presence. And he makes the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast, whose fatal wound was healed

    So, when General Vespasian became emperor, he left the war in Judea and gave it to another beast, his son Titus Teitan 666. 7 years divided by 2 in months = 42 months: 2 beasts, Father and Son, Vespasian and Titus but since Titus Teitan was general when the Temple was destroyed he is beast 666.
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    Feb 20, 2015 4:40 PM GMT
    Professor Bart Ehrman:

    How can we make sense of all this? The beast is described as God’s enemy who controls the world, exploits its people, and kills the saints. Given the similarities to the beast in chap. 17, we may not be too far afield to assume that this again may be an image of the Roman empire. If so, then the heads would presumably be the rulers of the empire, some of whom demand to be worshipped (as indeed did some of the emperors). One of these heads was mortally wounded, but then healed. What might this mean? Historians have long known of a group of ancient Jewish books called the Sybilline Oracles, which predict that one of the most hated of the Roman Emperors, Caesar Nero, will return from the dead to wreak havoc on the earth — comparable to one who recovers from a death-inflicting wound. This popular belief may have something to do with the number of the beast. It should be recalled that Nero was seen as the archenemy of the Christians, whom he ruthlessly and unjustly persecuted for setting fire to the city of Rome. Could he have been the beast described in Revelation 13?

    Intriguingly enough, when the name “Caesar Nero” is spelled in Hebrew letters, their numerical total is 666. More intriguingly still, the name can be spelled in another way, without a final “n” at the end “Nero(n).” The “n” is worth 50 in the Hebrew numerical system. When the alternative spelling is employed, the name adds up to 616.

    The author of Revelation was not referring to Hitler or Mussolini or Saddam or anyone else in modern times. His enemy was Rome and its Caesars. It was Rome that had dominated the other nations of earth, exploited their native populations, and oppressed the people of God; it was the Roman emperor who was worshipped as divine, who persecuted Christians and sometimes put them to death. This book was about how God was going to overthrow this emperor and his empire at the end of time (see especially chaps. 18-19) prior to rewarding his saints with the kingdom in a new heavens and a new earth (chaps. 20-22).
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    Feb 21, 2015 3:39 AM GMT

    Dr. Ehrman, Sibylline Oracles are a collection of utterances that were composed or edited under various circumstances, probably between the 2nd century AD and the 6th century AD. This significantly reduces the chance that 666 refers to Nero, who may have been a problem for the first generation of Christians before Paul died, but the first generation of Christians continued to meet at the Temple of Jerusalem. Their beast 666 also would have been the Roman General, Teitan-Titus, who destroyed Jesus' Father's House of Prayer. Would you agree to that possibility?
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    Feb 21, 2015 3:56 AM GMT
    With Revelation being composed during the reign of Domitian (81-96) before the Sibylline Oracles (2nd century to the 6th century AD), Emperor Nero cannot be a bigger beast to the Christians of the Jerusalem Church than Emperor Vespasian or Emperor Titus. Second, in addition to the magnitude of the Temple being destroyed, the Roman military under Vespasian and Titus did win a battle on the Sea of Galilee. There also was a battle won by the Romans under Vespasian and Titus at Jotapata, Galilee.
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    Apr 27, 2015 1:51 AM GMT
    One can get to 666 if Nero is spelled Neron.

    Google Nero coins, click images.
    Google Neron coins, click images.
    I’m finding Nero Caesar Augustus. I am not finding Neron.

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    Important and relevant to throwing out Neron or Nero as Beast 666 is reading Beast 666 in context: Revelation 13: 1 through 17. The context calls for Beast 666 to relate to the first beast.

    With the Irenaeus' solution: General Titus relates to General Vespasian as beast against Judea.

    To whom does Nero relate as beast against Christians, Chrestians, and/or Judea?

    Titus is second-mentioned beast 666; Vespasian is first-mentioned beast.
    Neron/Nero is second-mentioned beast 666: ______ is first-mentioned beast and why?