"Ugly" or "Unhealthy": Is the LGBT community secretly fat-shaming?

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    Feb 27, 2015 5:44 PM GMT
    This whole debate could be settled real quick by compelling the self righteous SJWs talking about how superficial it is to "fat-shame" to practice socialistic sex and go give up ass on the basis "from each according to their ability; to each according to their need."

    Get your hypocritical butts out there and take care care of the sex needs of the bums under the bridges and the obese. Be consistent with your message of sharing the "wealth."

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    Feb 27, 2015 5:47 PM GMT
    Hey Pazzy, where's that list of links to support that lame ass lie you made up? Let's see some proof this thing you call fat shaming is a recent phenomenon before you go changing topics.


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    Feb 27, 2015 9:26 PM GMT
    pazzy said
    bobbobbob saidFat shaming? get real and pull your nose out of the PC dictionary.

    And it's funny some of you have called it superficial to say something about people's weight. It's just a superficial or even more so of to minimize people with such hoity toity piety in defense of obesity.

    For close to half a century I've heard Overweight gay men talk about how superficial "all other" gay men are for their lack of sexual interest in overweight men.

    With that sick logic I guess we're to assume the only gay men who aren't superficial are the ones who are overweight, right?

    But then, if that's the case, why do the majority of overweight gay men chase the exact men who are supposedly superficial? You know, the lean and athletic guys.

    This superficiality bullshit is bullshit spread around to make people feel better about something that has nothing to do with superficiality.

    But before I go further, there are some happy well adjusted round gay men without self image problems who are really quite comfortable with themselves as they are. But they are not the majority. I've had many friends over the years who are or were like this. I don't think one of them older than I am now is still alive and all the ones who are alive today are suffering from health problems due to decades of bad diet and being overweight. Diabetes, high blood pressure, strokes, more strokes, destroyed hips and knees. I visit them all when I can and never turn them down when they need favors but I will not throw them any sympathy for continuing to slowly kill themselves with their bad eating habits. I'm pretty assertive in encouraging them to make efforts to lose weight and some have. However they all know better than to throw the superficiality card around as their excuse for never having a long lasting positive relationship.

    How many threads in forums have you read from men in what they call "relationships" of weeks or months in which the other "partner" has no desire for sex? Back before the internet you could sit in just about any early evening gay haunt in the USA and hear the same scenario discussed over drinks by ... overweight gay men.

    Things have not changed much except the the faceless anonymity of the internet makes it possible for them to present an eternal gay soliloquy that goes back all the way to the gay poets of Rome and Greece who lamented being to portly to interest the pretty boys.

    I don't know what others expect of their true friends of years and decades. Anyone who's sensible should expect someone who will speak the truth even when the truth is difficult to accept. The guy on the OP who pointed out the weight of the other guy was being a better friend than someone who'd have the overweight guy lies.





    let's be real here. this whole "fat shaming" and oversuperficial body culture bs is a fairly recent phenomenon that had started in the 80s and has gotten worse.

    it's gotten to the point where if you're not looking muscular, have your abs and muscle definition showing out then folks are automatically thinking that you're unhealthy as can be regardless if someone is skinny, the ideal weight or body or overweight. you can't even simply have some weight on you without folks ready to say that "you're fat" and that's beyond ridiculous where folks are literally thinking that the unrealistic, unobtainable body types that are featured in magazines that someone either has to be using roids or be a genetic freak is what the ideal, normal body type is.

    think it's sad that folks are actually saying that this way of thinking is okay.

    it's so bad that you even have some fitness trainers literally telling folks that shit. will never forget when i had a fitness trainer who was a manager 4 years ago straight up tell me that i should STOP going to the gym because i wasn't looking like thor. icon_confused.gif


    "The young men have a tanned complexion from the sun, manly faces; they reveal spirit, fire, manliness. They glow with fabulous conditioning: neither lean or skinny, nor excessive in weight, but etched with symmetry. They have sweated off all useless flesh, and what’s left is made for strength and stamina, and is untainted by any poor quality. They maintain their bodies vigorously."

    Lucian of Samosata, 2nd Century Essayist, Rhetorician and Satirist.

    The second century. That is even BEFORE the 1980's Pazzy.


    Henry VIII was considered the very essence of Manly perfection because of His unusually thick calves, the ultimate sign of 16th century virility. That too, Pazzy was before the 1980's.

    Cultures have had ideals of physical beauty as long as there have been eyes to behold it.

    And NO Pazzy, this is not about anyone looking down on you.
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    Feb 27, 2015 10:53 PM GMT
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    Cash said
    HikerSkier said
    ThatSwimmerGuy said
    pazzy said
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    ThatSwimmerGuy saidOverweight people deserve to be yelled at, and made fun of. They are a burden to the health care system. They cost society a lot of money.


    same could be said about promiscuous gay men though who burden the health care system with the rise of new hiv and std cases through unprotected sex. so according to your logic, it's okay for us to slut shame and make fun of gay sex and rush to judgment About gay people period. Folks love to throw bricks without realizing they ate indirectly speaking about themselves because theyre paVing the way for an even uglier picture.


    Bitch please. I'll choke the shit out of someone who said that to me. Are you really fucking serious? If ever you knew....the health care system MAKES MONEY AND PROFITS off of HIV meds (It's actually smoking, obesity, heart disease, and accidents that end up in the system. Gay sex is not even in the top 10 killers). Apart from care, most of them are all too eager to GIVE and diagnose HIV/meds to people.

    Someone needs to give you a good, stern kick up the bum, and a guide to what drives pharmaceutical/healthcare systems (sick or unhealthy people) and statistics that show gay sex is NOT a cause for healthcare burdening...for saying that. Someone need to tap your ass good!


    shut The fuck up you dusthead ass midget.

    Bitch, do I look like one of your clients or anybody that would be crazy enough to be caught dead talking to you at any point for any fucking thing?

    Please go back to sucking dick for Pocket change or whatever living expenses that you have to hitchhike across America for. you're only good for having dicks in your mouth. always talking a whole lot about nothing thinking your opinion matters when you need to be locked in a padded room inside a psychiatric facility with straitjacket and drugged the fuck up thorazine.

    It's uncivilized minded fucks like you that is the problem acting like you're some princess when you're just a trinket ass ho with no self respect. Got the nerve to talk this 40 acres and a mule, pro black shit and here you are slaving it up for a dollar where you're selling your ass to get it. Get yourself a real job, breh.
    Sorry if I hurt anyones feelings.

    Gawd, that's so sweet. An actual apology on RJ. But I think most of us knew you were being sarcastic, an admirable trait in a gay man.


    He happens to be a very sweet Guy.

    And anyone with half a brain that does not live in solitary confinement in a small cage in the basement and has seen daylight since 1997 knows that He was being sarcastic...

    I thought you liked Pazzy . . .


    I don't dislike pazzy at all. We have nothing in common, go thru Life in ENTIRELY different ways and are very likely from different planets but that doesn't mean I dislike him as a Human Being.

    I have yet to agree with him on ANYthing, but I still support his right to express himself and his POV.

    Even if I don't understand why he insists on participating with a site where he seems to dislike just about everyone and everything involved with it.
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    Feb 27, 2015 11:14 PM GMT
    _ragazzo_ saidI've dated several jocks through the years, and I was really surprised how insecure they were about their own bodies. These were incredibly in shape men, but they could only see flab (that didn't really exist) when they looked in the mirror. I can smell a whiff of this kind of body insecurity in this discussion. It's really unattractive. I am happy whenever someone can rock their body and be comfortable and confident in their own skin. Some jocks pull that off, and so do a number of "fat" guys.

    Some guys over-speak their true opinion of how fit they are. I know if I gain 3-4 pounds above a self-imposed benchmark, I'll probably decline desert or a cookie by saying something like "No, I'm a fat boy and need to lose some weight." I don't really think I'm fat, I'm just talking myself into a more disciplined diet until I get back to where I want to be. But that isn't the case with constantly overweight people. I lived in Alabama for a while and there, everyone is fat. And they just don't care. Try going most places in the world but the US and returning home. The first thing you notice is how fat everyone is. There are a thousand excuses one can make about why they're not getting and staying in shape and I really don't think a friend commenting is objectionable. I sure wouldn't bother telling a stranger. Only a friend.
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    Feb 27, 2015 11:38 PM GMT
    Pazzy why are you being so rude??
    Cash didn't curse at you he just shared his opinion.
    You don't have to agree at all but he didn't say anything awful about you so why are you being so abusive???
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    Feb 28, 2015 12:14 AM GMT
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    venue35 saidPazzy why are you being so rude??
    Cash didn't curse at you he just shared his opinion.
    You don't have to agree at all but he didn't say anything awful about you so why are you being so abusive???


    Same way he always has been on some sneaky shit then tries to act like the victim when folks get annoyed with him or he gets his same antics thrown at him. I don't even care if dude disagrees or agrees with me. Just can't stand how he does this sneaky bs attacking indirectly then when I get defensive calling him out, he tries to make himself out to be innocent. He does it to damn near anybody he doesn't like. And he'll lie right through his damn teeth too Like how he did how years ago when he came through doing the same shit in my pm box.


    Huh?

    I sent you a PM after you had PUBLICLY stated you were feeling overwhelmed by depression and anxiety and no longer had access to insurance or medical care. I sent you a message offering to help connect you to Professionals who could help you for little or no cost.

    You told Me that you didn't want to have to take a bus from Maplewood, NJ to Manhattan.

    The other time was really only after Import posted that He had met you and found you to be a decent Guy and quite different than the way you often present yourself online. So I said let's bury the hatchet and forget about it. You initially agreed.

    But ANY response to ANY statement you make is taken as "folks talking shit" or otherwise "looking down" upon you and just devolves into a back alley string of expletives.

    I, nor anyone else that I know of on RJ, looks "down" on you. Disagrees - YES. Questions your reasoning on certain issues that you feel authoritative on - absolutely. But I have yet to see anyone truly look down on you.

    I may have given you a few barbed comments back when you first arrived and routinely posted death threats and fantasies of violence against other Members...and started an entire blog outlining some of the more gruesome scenarios. But what did you THINK would happen after writing that kind of stuff? And that is ancient history anyway.

    I get that some people don't get My delightful wit and charm and endearing sense of sarcasm...but one can't win 'em all, can one? I have met enough RJ Dudes in RL and communicate with enough on a regular basis to be quite secure and comfortable with whatever staus I DO maintain.

    We DON'T have to like each other. We also don't have to DISlike each other. That doesn't mean being in agreement. That just doesn't seem to happen. But let's face facts, it won't effect either of Our lives, they are shared thoughts. Nothing more.

    Just relax Pazzy and try to enjoy something, ANYTHING. It has got to be exhausting to be so constantly hostile to people you don't know and most likely will never meet.

    As I have said before, I wish you luck and some sort of Peace.

    Now let's go back to the OP without further commercial interruption...
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    Feb 28, 2015 3:23 AM GMT
    pazzy said
    NeuralShock said
    pazzy said
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    pazzy said all this stupid vanity, superficiality is really fucking you guys up.


    tl;dr: You can not and should never try and make anyone feel obligated to date anyone else. It never works.

    It isn't really about vanity and superficiality.

    It's more about health concerns and lifestyle choices, if we decide that someone who doesn't take care of themselves isn't someone we want in our lives as a partner that is 100% our decision.

    For me I seriously cannot fathom going into a LTR with someone who doesn't take care of themselves, let us be quite serious here: If I am in it for the long haul I am in it for the long haul. Realistic? Maybe, maybe not. But either way their body will break down very rapidly as they age and they will become dependent 100% on me- that is one of the BIGGEST turn offs I can possibly have.

    So superficial? Yes it is also not what I find sexy and attractive.

    But all of this shaming is outrageous. No group of people should EVER feel OBLIGATED to find another group attractive. That's completely and utterly unreasonable and unfair.

    If I worked for 4 years to sculpt my body and diet carefully and train every damn day so I can be sexy why the HELL wouldn't I want to be with someone who also does the same? It's called if I put in the effort I expect my partner to.

    I mean we can even break it down into habits:
    1: I go to the gym and want to share that with someone, it is more fun in a group.

    2: Dieting carefully and watching my partner stuff a cake down their face would make me want to smack them.




    It isn't goddamned right or fair to expect anyone to DESIRE anyone else no matter if they are a white musclejock with black hair and striking green eyes or if they are a morbidly obese balding guy. No one should ever expect attraction from anyone else- if you get it then you're lucky.

    But to me I would not, could not ever be with someone who didn't care about themselves enough to even do basic fundamentals. This lack of self discipline and self worth is a huge turn off for me- I need a man not a child stuffing their face with no inhibition. I find drive and ambition sexy- the opposite repulses me.

    So don't make it purely about vanity- that is painting a very grey topic black/white. It isn't that simple and making that simple is unfair to everyone.




    Who said that this is about dating, breh. It's about Respecting others. Folks are the first to be disrespectful towards other people because they feeling like they're better than whoever for some reason but turn around demanding others to respect them especially the same folks they disrespect.

    It's funny because as I said, folks are acting like they're perfection and they have 101 flaws or could get ridiculed all day long yet they still talking shit.


    Oh in terms of respect I don't lack any of that, I was raised in a forest by Wolves- not in a barn. I respect them as human beings and their decision.

    But that doesn't mean I agree with their decision. It's sort of like the quote of "I may not agree with what you say but I will defend your right to say it".

    To me everyone gets respect, everyone has something to offer. I disagree completely and outright on their lifestyle decisions (and lack of- inaction is also a decision) but I respect them as human beings.


    Well showing respect to someone is also being empathizing with them. As I said before, one major factor in determining whether someone becomes obese or overweight or skinny is their genetics. to say that someone chooses to be fat is like saying someone chooses to be skinny. there's folks that get overweight without eating much and there's folks that are skinny that eat a shitload. You know.... all this culture of telling people that their genetics or they are born wrong and at the same time, telling them what to be and brainwashing them to think a certain way. It's all self destructive.

    Not saying that someone shouldn't strive to be healthy or attempt to but some things people aren't in control of and genetics is one of them.


    Now here is the thing, if someone is at least trying then I have the utmost respect for them and I classify them in my own brain (perhaps wrongly?) as "bulking" in that case.

    And in which case I honestly cheer for them because they're taking control of their life and their situation- I could personally whine for YEARS nonstop on how life was cruel to me about my acne but I got a grip, got a life and got over it. I'm dealing with it and fixing it.

    But when someone doesn't even try and change their fate then I honestly don't feel much if any empathy.

    It's like the person is just blaming "genetics" when making zero effort- it is not a compelling argument when someone just accepts their fate and lays down and dies. That's also another massive character flaw that I despise- FIGHT, people should always fight to become better and strive to be the best they can be.

    Like idgaf if you have shit genetics, you can still put in an effort. I mean cause I have acne should I just slit my wrists and die?

    Fuck no. I am getting lazer surgery done quite often and in about a year no one will ever know I ever had acne.

    Using genetics is a crutch and a pathetic excuse, one should never ever ever ever ever stop fighting to become better and who they want to be. Rolling over and dying and whining NEVER achieved anything in life.


    Tell me. How does one fight their genetics?


    All this trying to come up hurting someone else's self esteem by picking on what you perceive as flaws to boost yourself up is corny. All its just saying about whoever is doing it is that they themselves have issues.

    shaming someone thinking you're helping them is abusive. whatever happened to leaving folks alone and reaching out to them if they need the help or want to be helped. folks need to worry about themselves in this case having empathy because folks are just becoming more psychologically screwed as society becomes more into the whole me, me, the world revolves around me mindstate. all this obesity is a problem that affects the world Is nonsense.


    How does one fight their genetics? By attending to their flaws and never giving up, I gave my own self as an example. Laying down and dying is not acceptable, one should always take fate into their own hands and forge themselves into who they want to be.

    And I don't shame anyone, ever. It's none of my business and I treat it that way- if a friend asked me for advice I'd tell them it though cause I do care about them. I wouldn't bother giving a damn about a stranger.

    And it isn't just "me me me me" it is also their own lack of fight and drive- it is depressing. No one should lay down and accept a shitty hand dealt to them- always improve and strive for more.
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    Feb 28, 2015 5:02 AM GMT
    Well, Pazzy until you get out there in the front line of the anti-fat-shaming social justice warrior militia willing to provide sex to people based on their needs and your ability to provide it you're just one more shallow little hypocrite not practicing what you try to tell others they should do or how they should think.

    I have a friend, I've know for 40 years, a DIETITIAN, who at 58 fell at work, broke a leg and has since broken the same leg twice simply by standing and supporting his 350-PLUS weight. Since then he's gained an extra 100 lbs, rolls himself around the house on a wheeled stool made at a welding shop, has had a stroke and a heart attack and tows an oxygen tank. He can still drive but it takes two people to get him in his car and has to go days without bathing so there can be two home nurses to assist him in and out of the shower.

    What about a substance abuse counselor who was so big he eventually busted the toilet in his bathroom through the floor of his mobile home and suffocated under his own weight?

    A retail store manager who developed diabetes that led to gangrene in both feet that had to be amputated? He eventually died of infections from pressure sores, where his skin rotted off his butt.

    A 45 year old gay priest with the American Catholic Church who died of kidney failure due to obesity?

    Back in the 1970s I was visiting a friend in a Miami hospital when a non-patient had a heart attack in the hall. He was so overweight they had to get a small nurse to stand on his chest and jump on cue to give him CPR. They saved him but he died a few days later.

    And you want us to accept people who condemn themselves to this sort of self torture and inevitably untimely deaths?


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    Feb 28, 2015 5:41 AM GMT
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    bobbobbob saidWell, Pazzy until you get out there in the front line of the anti-fat-shaming social justice warrior militia willing to provide sex to people based on their needs and your ability to provide it you're just one more shallow little hypocrite not practicing what you try to tell others they should do or how they should think.





    let me get this straight. You're saYing all that to justify basically being abusive to someone who is obese.
    Smokers do less harm to the economy than obese people...WAY less.

    Yet it seems to be socially acceptable to condemn smokers, even though their "burden" on society is nothing more than a smell that most people don't like.

    On the other hand, obese people do lots of damage when they fall or bump into objects, which happens often cause they can't support their own weight.

    Unlike race, gender, and sexuality, smoking and obesity are both lifestyle choices. Why shouldn't we be abusive to fat-asses?
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    Feb 28, 2015 6:47 AM GMT
    Gloomyperiod saidThere has been "World War III" here...

    Actually, rather tame, as far as these things go on RJ.
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    Feb 28, 2015 6:51 AM GMT
    Gloomyperiod saidThere has been "World War III" here...
    Does this mean the next world war will be fought with sticks and stones?

    (Einstein reference)
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    Feb 28, 2015 7:18 AM GMT
    Gloomyperiod said
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    Gloomyperiod saidThere has been "World War III" here...

    Actually, rather tame, as far as these things go on RJ.
    Yeah, but never imagine that the discussion could develop into this bitter quarrel...icon_confused.gif
    Yeah, but many of us used to be fat.

    Just like ex-smokers, the ex-fatasses will be vehemently against fat-asses...moreso than those who've never been fat (or those who've never smoked).

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    Feb 28, 2015 7:26 AM GMT
    Gloomyperiod said
    paulflexes said
    Gloomyperiod said
    HikerSkier said
    Gloomyperiod saidThere has been "World War III" here...

    Actually, rather tame, as far as these things go on RJ.
    Yeah, but never imagine that the discussion could develop into this bitter quarrel...icon_confused.gif
    Yeah, but many of us used to be fat.

    Just like ex-smokers, the ex-fatasses will be vehemently against fat-asses...moreso than those who've never been fat (or those who've never smoked).

    Absolutely! At least everyone was fat during infant...
    So you're saying fat-chasers are nothing more than advanced versions of pedophiles? icon_eek.gif
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    Feb 28, 2015 8:17 AM GMT
    Aaaaanyway, getting back to the OP's question: I think people are often concerned about a friend's health and comment in a way that does sound like "fat shaming". The concern I have with the FS phrase is that it implies you can't really say anything for fear of hurting someone's feelings. But what do you do when you really are concerned about someone's health?

    I know it sounds harsh but I think people need to develop thicker skins. I hate being reminded that I'm short (thanks, btw Pazzy, for insulting You Know Who by calling him a midget :rollicon_smile.gif but at my age I've come to accept it and generally don't freak out about it). I think seriously overweight people should accept that others are going to call a spade a "spade" and not take offence if the comment was made with a sincere concern in mind.

    [PS : I started working out about 6 years ago when two close family member BOTH commented on my "beer" belly on the same day. Admittedly I didn't really have a lot of weight to lose, being "skinny-fat" but the harsh comment really did motivate me. After all, it was said by two people who both love me and I knew no insult was intended, other than gentle chiding.]

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    Feb 28, 2015 8:49 AM GMT
    [quote][cite]pazzy said
    let me get this straight. You're saYing all that to justify basically being abusive to someone who is obese. [/quote]

    Well if there was any doubt of your shallowness you've just proven it with those words.

    I was trying to justify nothing, especially anything that fits into your narrow little narrative as you attempted to do.

    I was giving examples of how obesity has horrible (but avoidable) consequences that make it hard on everyone around them and make it hard for those who care to do so honestly as they watch loved ones and friends slowly murder themselves with what should have been sustenance, not a device of self torture.
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    Feb 28, 2015 10:53 AM GMT
    LMAO @ "secretly" used to describe any shaming gay guys do. For real???

    For all the overall awesomeness and the many cool people on this site, in the less than a month I've been here Real Jerks have perpetrated:

    1. SKINNY shaming icon_rolleyes.gif
    2. Sparse body hair shaming
    3. DL shaming (excuse me for not wanting to be homeless)
    4. Cock size shaming
    5. Cam/Skype refusal shaming (see also #3)
    6. Absence-of-gym-"addiction" shaming
    7. Location & accent shaming
    8. Weed consumption shaming
    9. Age preference shaming
    10. Age shaming

    And the original topic of this thread has been buried in drama. (Never mind the lame-ass flame wars that always start up & blow up. icon_rolleyes.gif ) Somebody 10-20 pounds overweight becomes a 600-lb slug with a dozen layers of flab who's BURDENING THE HEALTH CARE SYSTEM. All because some insecure self-righteous moron decided to harp on somebody's ordering dessert. SMDH I'd have ordered an extra dessert and smashed it in the fool's face. End of story!
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    Feb 28, 2015 11:24 AM GMT
    LOL. Yup.
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    Feb 28, 2015 11:39 AM GMT
    pazzy said

    No, I'm talking about the first time I started posting and you went out your way to inform me of what I should and shouldn't say like what you've done to other posters. When I got defensive because I was wondering why you somehow someway seem to have a problem with what I was saying and completely ignoring others who were really saying offensive shit where they were your buddies, you had the nerve to tell me off so I just told you to stop.



    That sounds like Cash. I think he did the same thing to many other new members, including me. The bully moderator that no one ever asked for.icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Feb 28, 2015 1:16 PM GMT
    There is a HUGE difference between expressing a concern of UNHEALTHY eating, and calling an obese person just plain UGLY, just saying! but then again there is HUGE difference between the approach of obesity with respect and sensitivity vs making fun and degrading it, as expressed by some comments and the tittle of this topic seem to imply.

    I hate to see the day (those of you who make fun and degrade the obese, the way some of you have expressed on this topic)when you will have to confront a life threatening event in your own life!? And to them I'll say "KARMA IS A BITCH! AIN'T IT!!
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    Feb 28, 2015 2:56 PM GMT
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    No, I'm talking about the first time I started posting and you went out your way to inform me of what I should and shouldn't say like what you've done to other posters. When I got defensive because I was wondering why you somehow someway seem to have a problem with what I was saying and completely ignoring others who were really saying offensive shit where they were your buddies, you had the nerve to tell me off so I just told you to stop.



    That sounds like Cash. I think he did the same thing to many other new members, including me. The bully moderator that no one ever asked for.icon_rolleyes.gif


    There definitely has been a pattern. Including comments about weight.
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    Feb 28, 2015 3:43 PM GMT
    bobbobbob saidThis whole debate could be settled real quick by compelling the self righteous SJWs talking about how superficial it is to "fat-shame" to practice socialistic sex and go give up ass on the basis "from each according to their ability; to each according to their need."

    Get your hypocritical butts out there and take care care of the sex needs of the bums under the bridges and the obese. Be consistent with your message of sharing the "wealth."


    Don't forget the old and ugly people.
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    Feb 28, 2015 3:45 PM GMT
    strongbull said
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    pazzy said

    No, I'm talking about the first time I started posting and you went out your way to inform me of what I should and shouldn't say like what you've done to other posters. When I got defensive because I was wondering why you somehow someway seem to have a problem with what I was saying and completely ignoring others who were really saying offensive shit where they were your buddies, you had the nerve to tell me off so I just told you to stop.



    That sounds like Cash. I think he did the same thing to many other new members, including me. The bully moderator that no one ever asked for.icon_rolleyes.gif


    There definitely has been a pattern. Including comments about weight.


    I don't even know you and have had nothing to do with you at all.

    I exchanged a few words with morphic over some minor pile of nothing and it was forgotten about in 10 seconds.

    My suggestion to pazzy when he first got here and was offending EVERYONE with his death threats and insistence on mandating how a group of Guys who already knew each other and had established a sort of online relationship interact with each other was to get to know the people he was interfering with. I thought he would have a better experience if he were not so combative with EVERYONE in EVERY thread he invaded.

    He was not repeatedly banned for being the lone voice of reason ya know...

    I don't make comments about weight on any regular basis. It's not even something that has any effect on My life. I think it is unhealthy and may indicate deeper issues but I don't go around making fun of anyone because of it, or their looks in general.

    I have said about a trillion times now, there is someone for everybody and there is room for everybody.